Conor:
If the dashcams fitted to the trucks I drive showed that footage when management looked at it I’d not be working there any more.
Absolutely right. The caravan driver doesn’t shower himself in glory, but at what point is it appropriate to use a company owned vehicle as a battering ram?
Get your stuff, the gate’s not locked…
An indicator is not an automatic right of way.
As many have stated, they are both at fault equally. What we aren’t privy to, is the view from trucker boys O/S mirror, and I’d assume that he’d seen that caravan man coming down lane 2, and decided that he was not giving space come what may, and we’ve all been there, and it is so annoying. But He(truckerboy) was at a point were he could have let that Caravan Man over, without incident. Then after the 1st collision, He should/could have backed off, and the 1st part off that accident would have been enough for an exchange off details, and could have been dealt with by only a momentary blocking off the road to check vehicles were roadworthy, and proceed to next available refuge or hardshoulder. The trucker would have had far more morale authority at that point. But he choose to speed up and be part off a road closing incident, in which someone could have been seriously hurt and in which, what ever morale high ground he might have had, had been wiped out.
The attitude off the caravan driver, in proceeding to try and get in front off the truck after the 1st impact, and if I’ve interpreted the video correctly he could off stopped at that point, was sheer recklessness. If for instance He had been caught out by the sudden slip road(I believe that to be BS), which is a scenario that has been put forward, then to try and come over into the path off another vehicle, because youre frustrated at not being able to join the lane you require, is ■■■■ right stupid. But too then force your way into the path off another vehicle becomes reckless.
It would be interesting to know how the civil and legal matters, which have arisen from this case were resolved. I would say that, with that damning footage, truckerboy, if an LGV holder might deserve some communication from the TC, I wouldn’t think His attitude would go down well, especialy if his area Commisioner was a caravaner too 
Anyone wearing a pink striped rugby shirt clearly requires a re-assessment 
The caravan IMO is in the wrong when he starts to cross the chevrons.
The truck driver is an absolute ■■■■■ though. His aggressive stop start driving at the start of the video and his seperation distance was that of an aggressive driver. He wasn’t letting anyone in for the full video nevermind a caravan at the last minute.
Overall I would say the trucker could have easily made that situation avoidable.
simple. remove all grandfathers rights to tow.
all drivers wishing to tow to pass a test including reversing and highway code.
this could be a on site training day that needs a refresher every 5 years.
on completion the driver has a card much like the dcpc.
any offences ie speeding DD etc totting up to a max 6 points removes the right to tow for a min 3 years …
nick2008:
simple. remove all grandfathers rights to tow.
all drivers wishing to tow to pass a test including reversing and highway code.
this could be a on site training day that needs a refresher every 5 years.
on completion the driver has a card much like the dcpc.
any offences ie speeding DD etc totting up to a max 6 points removes the right to tow for a min 3 years …
Don’t be silly Nick… On sites I am one of the few drivers that actually knows how to reverse… most of the others are totally lost without their beloved remote control motor movers that push a drive roller onto the wheels.
Looking at that vanner in question, it is hard to tell whether they have extending mirrors fitted to the towcar see down the sides of the caravan. They only about £25 quid a pair and take five minutes to fit. At least you can see if the van is clear when you move lanes then.
richmond:
An insurance company would put that down as 50/50
No way would the truck win this one, might even go down as 100% his/her fault. It’s insurance companies fault why people in this country drive like dix:!::!:
Glen A9:
tommy t:
Wobble box drivers fault, the prick could see that the truck/van wasn’t going to let him in so should of backed off,And the truck driver could see the caravan driver was going to push in no matter what but still continued to close the gap which lead to the accident, just to prove a point.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the police investigate this further now the video has been published and prosecute both drivers.
Yes but the loory driver had right of way as he was in the correct lane wobble box man was driving on the chevrons , therefore wobble box man is at fault, and the plod should nick him for driving on the hatched markings , if the idiot couldn’t exit the motorway because he wasn’t prepared to go to the back of the que and it wasn’t safe to stop and wait ,he should of driven to the next junction and turned around if need be
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Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right.
If the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so.
If the area is marked with chevrons and bordered by solid white lines you MUST NOT enter it except in an emergency.
Laws MT(E&W)R regs 5, 9, 10 & 16, MT(S)R regs 4, 8, 9 & 14, RTA sect 36 & TSRGD 10(1)
I would bet in a previous life the wobble box driver was a sales rep
Agency driver in the truck,retired agency man driving the snap tin 
rambo19:
An indicator is not an automatic right of way.
And having priority over a lane isn’t a right to drive into someone who fails to give way.
Glen A9:
rambo19:
An indicator is not an automatic right of way.And having priority over a lane isn’t a right to drive into someone who fails to give way.
IMO the wobble box, drove into the truck, and also broke the law in order to do so , and as a result of this there would have been one less wobble box parked in the HGV parking area at stencham MSA that day so something good came from it
Both of them were to blame for the crash. The caravaner shouldn’t have forced his way in front of a truck (that he probably couldn’t see properly if he didn’t have extra mirrors). And the truck driver shouldn’t have kept the gap closed once he saw the caravan was going in no mater what.
And both of them certainly should have stopped after the first collision and not kept going until they had completely blocked the road.
Hundreds of people’s journeys will have been delayed because two idiots were having a willy waving contest on a busy motorway.
I had a driver who drove like that, i ■■■■■■ him off sharpish, the driver is a ■■■■, firstly for doing it, secondly for then posting the video of him doing it, lord save me from these people.
As a professional driver one has to make allowances for bell ends & knob jockeys, ease of the pedal make yourself look good & save the idiot from himself, rise above it all relax chill out & sleep at night, even us tipper drivers have a heart (sometimes)
Caravan driver was at fault for cutting in although whether he was trying to jump the queue or had made a genuine mistake, he did attempt to get in before the chevrons.
Truck driver was the one who caused it by refusing to back off no matter what, and what did he get out of it, an accident form to fill in and in his own words “front all f*cked and door caved in along with the step”. He should have his HGV licence taken away before he succeeds in killing someone.
Oh well, I just watched footage of a couple of bad drivers… It’s because of this kind of attitude insurance company premiums tend to go higher as the time goes instead of going down.
And by the way, trucker more to blame as an HGV he should show himself more superior and Avoid that collision!! After all, we suppose to be professional drivers right?? and for last, that language and throttle usage were hmmmmm… Better not rate it…
Darb:
The idiot with the caravan is almost past the truck driver at this point, I understand that he doesn’t have the right of way but come on who can honestly say at this point they wouldn’t have eased off to avoid the accident? I’m not saying the truck driver is to blame but would you have accelerated at this point simply because it was your right of way? I’m guessing that most would have simply thought “here we go again, another muppet” and backed off !
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On the plus side the RAC were handy.
Are you sure this guy is driving a truck? The footage doesn’t seem high enough off the ground to be shot from a truck. A van maybe? It doesn’t sound much like a truck’s engine to me.
From what I could see this driver is clearly at fault for the first collision as he pressed on when the caravan driver was pulling over, and made contact with the car or caravan. No matter who has right of way, you just don’t hit anyone.
However, in the second collision, the caravan driver’s at fault as he pulled into the slip road at the wrong angle, at the last minute, in such a way that the truck or van driver didn’t have time to stop, and probably without leaving enough room for his caravan to move in behind him. Clearly both drivers were already angry with each other and that’s why they behaved stupidly, but the caravan driver probably lacked the skill to manoeuvre.