What's a V trace?

i read on another thread about something called a V trace.
is this the mythological thing that vosa use to find out if someone has been running bent?

i know someone that was caught last year on the magnet, his lorry was in scania for the night. whilst it was in there they downloaded the card, the head, and the cpu.
he was charged with 42 counts of tachograph fraud. this was motorway camera evidence, but nothing to do with any information gained from downloading anything from the lorry, and there was certainly no mention of anything called a V trace.
he got off very lightly. they dropped 41 of the charges, as it was one offence caught by 42 cameras.
so if there was anything else they could use, then surely they would have.

a v trace is 10 kms

Good one phil are we heading for a another ady1 moment

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Can’t believe you don’t know this Phil.

The nearest trace to the centre hole on an analogue tachograph card is the V trace, a zig-zag line which changes direction every 5km. It is also known as the “distance trace”, as in this picture which I lifted from a post which member “Tachograph” made.


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By counting the number of peaks and troughs and comparing them with the claimed distance travelled, VOSA can see if the vehicle has been moved without a card in (unless there has been an interruption of electrical supply)

Many drivers load or tip “off the card”. The reality is that if they move the vehicle more than a handful of yards when doing this it can be detected, because the following day’s trace will not start off where the last one ended.

Experinced continental driver works for Irish firms trip money etc don’t know what v trace is hmm.

Nice informative pic Harry: Made before the WTD i suspect. 10:00 to 15:00 with no break - tut tut.

Santa:
Nice informative pic Harry: Made before the WTD i suspect. 10:00 to 15:00 with no break - tut tut.

Unless my maths has taken a tumble 10:00 to 15:00 is 5 hours, where’s the problem :confused: :wink:

^ It’s only 5 hours. :question:

eta…too slow.

Santa:
Nice informative pic Harry: Made before the WTD i suspect. 10:00 to 15:00 with no break - tut tut.

whats that got to do with WTD (RTD)?
Only have to take a break if working in excess of 6 hrs :smiley: :smiley:

green456:

Santa:
Nice informative pic Harry: Made before the WTD i suspect. 10:00 to 15:00 with no break - tut tut.

whats that got to do with WTD (RTD)?
Only have to take a break if working in excess of 6 hrs :smiley: :smiley:

Up to 6 hours! Go 1 minute over the 6 before having a break is an infringement.

44 Tonne Ton:
Up to 6 hours! Go 1 minute over the 6 before having a break is an infringement.

Yes, but from 10.00 to 15.00 is only five hours. 15-10=5.

44 Tonne Ton:

green456:

Santa:
Nice informative pic Harry: Made before the WTD i suspect. 10:00 to 15:00 with no break - tut tut.

whats that got to do with WTD (RTD)?
Only have to take a break if working in excess of 6 hrs :smiley: :smiley:

Up to 6 hours! Go 1 minute over the 6 before having a break is an infringement.

6 hrs and one minute is in excess of 6 hrs so whats your point :question:
:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

green456:

44 Tonne Ton:

green456:

Santa:
Nice informative pic Harry: Made before the WTD i suspect. 10:00 to 15:00 with no break - tut tut.

whats that got to do with WTD (RTD)?
Only have to take a break if working in excess of 6 hrs :smiley: :smiley:

Up to 6 hours! Go 1 minute over the 6 before having a break is an infringement.

6 hrs and one minute is in excess of 6 hrs so whats your point :question:
:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Less experienced readers could misinterpret it so I offered a little clarification. :wink:

Harry Monk:

44 Tonne Ton:
Up to 6 hours! Go 1 minute over the 6 before having a break is an infringement.

Yes, but from 10.00 to 15.00 is only five hours. 15-10=5.

I can count too Harry! I was quoting Green345.

I got done for a ‘few’ counts of missing kms, detected by vosa by the gaps as shown on the tacho. It was all shown to me how they worked it out, but at no time did I hear the phrase v trace. Luckily though I got off on a technicality! :wink:

If your tipping off the card and do say 2kms don’t put new card in till you’ve done 10 keeps the trace in the same area as the card that was removed,

bigtruck:
If your tipping off the card and do say 2kms don’t put new card in till you’ve done 10 keeps the trace in the same area as the card that was removed,

But then there would be a V missing, that’s the whole point of the V trace.

44 Tonne Ton:

Harry Monk:

44 Tonne Ton:
Up to 6 hours! Go 1 minute over the 6 before having a break is an infringement.

Yes, but from 10.00 to 15.00 is only five hours. 15-10=5.

I can count too Harry! I was quoting Green345.

whos 345 :question:
:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Who’s counting? :grimacing:

Won’t work if they scan them but will usually pass the naked eye test! Especially if everything else is looking good.