Our leaders will ensure that we stay in the EU regardless of the fact that the English/ Welsh regions voted out.
Colin_scottish:
The Tories destroyed this country when they shut everything people have short memories.
I think that would actually explain why a load of Labour voters have actually just voted against all that in the form of voting leave.What they ( rightly ) didn’t expect was for that vote then to be hijacked by Tory remain MP Tharesa May then being crowned as PM.
As I said with the probable result that what we’ve done is take out what UKIP representation we had in Europe while staying under its rule in the form of EEA member state.In which case expect more transfer of industry to Europe and more cheap immigrant labour taking whatever jobs we’ve got left and more of Juncker telling us what we have to do.
Garsdale:
Our leaders will ensure that we stay in the EU regardless of the fact that the English/ Welsh regions voted out.
Unfortunately not exactly.They’ll ensure we stay in.In the form of the EEA.Thereby also removing any chance we had of reforming the Federalist zb pile from within with UKIP’s MEP’s in alliance with Europe’s growing Nationalist movements.
Staying in the EU,in the hope of turning it into a Confederal Grouping,rather than Federal,would actually be the better option in that case. 
Carryfast:
Staying in the EU,in the hope of turning it into a Confederal Grouping,rather than Federal,would actually be the better option in that case.
You mean you are in favour of Bremain in order to destroy the thing from within?
Rjan:
Carryfast:
Staying in the EU,in the hope of turning it into a Confederal Grouping,rather than Federal,would actually be the better option in that case.You mean you are in favour of Bremain in order to destroy the thing from within?
Firstly I see it as more along the lines of throwing out Yugoslav type Socialist Soviet Federal dictatorship.To be replaced with Confederal group of sovereign nations based on consent.In the form of National opt out,substitution and VETO over the whole decision making process.Don’t give me the bs about so called decision making impasse in that.IE we can all agree or any or all of us can agree to disagree and opt out or change decisions within our own national borders to suit our own national electoral wishes. 
If you want to call that destroy the EU in its current dictatorial federal form absolutely.
All that being a lot better than Tharesa May being appointed as PM.In the nightmare scenario of remaining a member of the EU federation in all but name,as an EEA member sate,together with no UKIP representation in Europe. 
After a little more digging she is deluded We have a law common law in this country and anyone that thinks there should be other laws like sharia law is a traitor in many ways to her people , and to think she is home office minister and allegedly in charge of the countries security Home Secretary Theresa May say many Britons ‘BENEFIT GREATLY’ from Sharia Law | UK | News | Express.co.uk
tommy t:
After a little more digging she is deluded We have a law common law in this country and anyone that thinks there should be other laws like sharia law is a traitor in many ways to her people , and to think she is home office minister and allegedly in charge of the countries security Home Secretary Theresa May say many Britons ‘BENEFIT GREATLY’ from Sharia Law | UK | News | Express.co.uk
Total cluster zb.The Socialist pro immigration agenda allied with the cheap labour one of the Cons with a new EU Federalist Thatcherite clone crowned as PM having hijacked the Labour Leave vote.Now with what UKIP opposition we had in Europe taken out having returned more powers to her to implement Juncker’s directives as an EEA member state. 
Carryfast:
tommy t:
After a little more digging she is deluded We have a law common law in this country and anyone that thinks there should be other laws like sharia law is a traitor in many ways to her people , and to think she is home office minister and allegedly in charge of the countries security Home Secretary Theresa May say many Britons ‘BENEFIT GREATLY’ from Sharia Law | UK | News | Express.co.ukTotal cluster zb.The Socialist pro immigration agenda allied with the cheap labour one of the Cons with a new EU Federalist Thatcherite clone crowned as PM having hijacked the Labour Leave vote.Now with what UKIP opposition we had in Europe taken out having returned more powers to her to implement Juncker’s directives as an EEA member state.
I’m just dreading a torrie goverment that can basically do what it likes for the foresiable future.
Themoocher:
Carryfast:
tommy t:
After a little more digging she is deluded We have a law common law in this country and anyone that thinks there should be other laws like sharia law is a traitor in many ways to her people , and to think she is home office minister and allegedly in charge of the countries security Home Secretary Theresa May say many Britons ‘BENEFIT GREATLY’ from Sharia Law | UK | News | Express.co.ukTotal cluster zb.The Socialist pro immigration agenda allied with the cheap labour one of the Cons with a new EU Federalist Thatcherite clone crowned as PM having hijacked the Labour Leave vote.Now with what UKIP opposition we had in Europe taken out having returned more powers to her to implement Juncker’s directives as an EEA member state.
I’m just dreading a torrie goverment that can basically do what it likes for the foresiable future.
Nothing to lose we had that in 1980 when Europhile Thatcher got in.Bearing in mind that EEA membership is effectively the same as EU membership.
It’s more a case of Juncker etc now having the power to dump even more loads of immigrants on us including exposure to Turkish membership.In addition to still leaving us open to the cabotage issue.With no UKIP opposition in Brussels.
This whole new politik has exposed that Democracy doesn’t work - once you go past divided populations approaching 100m and beyond.
Sharia Law would make Britain Heaven to Islamists. People forget that if the day comes when 51% of us are Muslim - IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN - and all democratically.
…Then it will be too late to ask questions like “Hey, why didn’t we vote this down when we had the chance?”
Well us Brexiteers have given it our best shot - and have barely managed to hang on by our fingernails as it is.
There are a multitude of issues as to why we should crack down on “Historic Democracy Abuse”
Maybe we should call the investigating detective team “Yewbranch up your bum” or something.
When you get outvoted on something - you learn from the experience, and get more of your mates to get their arses out of bed and vote next time.
Old ■■■■■ don’t vote the way they do because they hate the younger generation - they just vote because they can and do. Pumping up the lefties with entitlements at the expense of low-interest rate OAP slavery - can only widen divisions further.
If we ever get a compulsory vote in this country - a “spoilt ballot paper” needs to be counted as a vote for Status Quo, whereas a “missing ballot paper” - How on earth do you enforce it?
I don’t think I’d want to see “We’ll stop your benefits if you don’t vote” - because we don’t actually WANT the vote of those buggers - do we? 
Winseer:
This whole new politik has exposed that Democracy doesn’t work - once you go past divided populations approaching 100m and beyond.Sharia Law would make Britain Heaven to Islamists. People forget that if the day comes when 51% of us are Muslim - IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN - and all democratically.
…Then it will be too late to ask questions like “Hey, why didn’t we vote this down when we had the chance?”
Well us Brexiteers have given it our best shot - and have barely managed to hang on by our fingernails as it is.
There are a multitude of issues as to why we should crack down on “Historic Democracy Abuse”
Maybe we should call the investigating detective team “Yewbranch up your bum” or something.
When you get outvoted on something - you learn from the experience, and get more of your mates to get their arses out of bed and vote next time.
Old ■■■■■ don’t vote the way they do because they hate the younger generation - they just vote because they can and do. Pumping up the lefties with entitlements at the expense of low-interest rate OAP slavery - can only widen divisions further.
I think you’ve way underestimated the end game in that.Yes a foreign immigrant demographic going for self determination along their own ethnic lines.Who would ever have thought it.Allied to that young Socialist Bolshevik vote with a sense of entitlement based on ageism and reverse racism.Who’ll all then be taking over the property rights of that older demographic,or in fact anyone who the Socialist mob perceive as being subject to ‘wealth redistribution’ policy on the basis that ‘their’ ‘need’ is greater.At which point we’ll then see the true colours of many of those who we’ve allowed into the country and the agenda behind letting in many more.In the inevitable way that they’ll meet the inevitable resistance to their plans.
Winseer:
This whole new politik has exposed that Democracy doesn’t work - once you go past divided populations approaching 100m and beyond.Sharia Law would make Britain Heaven to Islamists. People forget that if the day comes when 51% of us are Muslim - IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN - and all democratically.
…Then it will be too late to ask questions like “Hey, why didn’t we vote this down when we had the chance?”
Well us Brexiteers have given it our best shot - and have barely managed to hang on by our fingernails as it is.
There are a multitude of issues as to why we should crack down on “Historic Democracy Abuse”
Maybe we should call the investigating detective team “Yewbranch up your bum” or something.
When you get outvoted on something - you learn from the experience, and get more of your mates to get their arses out of bed and vote next time.
Old ■■■■■ don’t vote the way they do because they hate the younger generation - they just vote because they can and do. Pumping up the lefties with entitlements at the expense of low-interest rate OAP slavery - can only widen divisions further.
If we ever get a compulsory vote in this country - a “spoilt ballot paper” needs to be counted as a vote for Status Quo, whereas a “missing ballot paper” - How on earth do you enforce it?
I don’t think I’d want to see “We’ll stop your benefits if you don’t vote” - because we don’t actually WANT the vote of those buggers - do we?
we already have a Muslim major in the capitol city of the world who would of ever believed that 10 years ago ?
its clear the citys have a huge ethnic majority you only have to see how the vote turned out to see just how big some areas have huge majority’s again who would of though that 10 years ago ?
so just how will this country look in 10 years from now ?
desypete:
its clear the citys have a huge ethnic majority you only have to see how the vote turned out to see just how big some areas have huge majority’s again who would of though that 10 years ago ?so just how will this country look in 10 years from now ?
Realistically it’s a Europe wide problem not just a UK one and can only be fixed by a united European Nationalist agenda.Which Farage in his infinite ‘wisdom’ has removed any chance of at least in our case. What a muppet. 
Garsdale:
Our leaders will ensure that we stay in the EU regardless of the fact that the English/ Welsh regions voted out.
What leader would that be? We are rudderless at the moment…
Themoocher:
Carryfast:
tommy t:
After a little more digging she is deluded We have a law common law in this country and anyone that thinks there should be other laws like sharia law is a traitor in many ways to her people , and to think she is home office minister and allegedly in charge of the countries security Home Secretary Theresa May say many Britons ‘BENEFIT GREATLY’ from Sharia Law | UK | News | Express.co.ukTotal cluster zb.The Socialist pro immigration agenda allied with the cheap labour one of the Cons with a new EU Federalist Thatcherite clone crowned as PM having hijacked the Labour Leave vote.Now with what UKIP opposition we had in Europe taken out having returned more powers to her to implement Juncker’s directives as an EEA member state.
I’m just dreading a torrie goverment that can basically do what it likes for the foresiable future.
We’ve already had that in the 80’s under Thatcher. We’re still here. She’s dead. So who won in the long run really? 
desypete:
Winseer:
This whole new politik has exposed that Democracy doesn’t work - once you go past divided populations approaching 100m and beyond.Sharia Law would make Britain Heaven to Islamists. People forget that if the day comes when 51% of us are Muslim - IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN - and all democratically.
…Then it will be too late to ask questions like “Hey, why didn’t we vote this down when we had the chance?”
Well us Brexiteers have given it our best shot - and have barely managed to hang on by our fingernails as it is.
There are a multitude of issues as to why we should crack down on “Historic Democracy Abuse”
Maybe we should call the investigating detective team “Yewbranch up your bum” or something.
When you get outvoted on something - you learn from the experience, and get more of your mates to get their arses out of bed and vote next time.
Old ■■■■■ don’t vote the way they do because they hate the younger generation - they just vote because they can and do. Pumping up the lefties with entitlements at the expense of low-interest rate OAP slavery - can only widen divisions further.
If we ever get a compulsory vote in this country - a “spoilt ballot paper” needs to be counted as a vote for Status Quo, whereas a “missing ballot paper” - How on earth do you enforce it?
I don’t think I’d want to see “We’ll stop your benefits if you don’t vote” - because we don’t actually WANT the vote of those buggers - do we?
we already have a Muslim major in the capitol city of the world who would of ever believed that 10 years ago ?
its clear the citys have a huge ethnic majority you only have to see how the vote turned out to see just how big some areas have huge majority’s again who would of though that 10 years ago ?
so just how will this country look in 10 years from now ?
Perhaps this is a demonstration of why the 52% need to push it NOW rather than leave it any longer… The more we wait - the more that demographic balance will swing across that center line, until eventually we’ll have Sharia Law voted in by 52%… .THAT could happen “in the next 10 years” if left unchecked. I hope that the narrow win on this occasion will motivate “other legacy British folk” (Ie. ‘us’) to get out and vote at every opportunity in the future - even to turn over daft policies like “banning billboards with scantily clad women on them”.
Winseer:
desypete:
Winseer:
This whole new politik has exposed that Democracy doesn’t work - once you go past divided populations approaching 100m and beyond.Sharia Law would make Britain Heaven to Islamists. People forget that if the day comes when 51% of us are Muslim - IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN - and all democratically.
…Then it will be too late to ask questions like “Hey, why didn’t we vote this down when we had the chance?”
Well us Brexiteers have given it our best shot - and have barely managed to hang on by our fingernails as it is.
There are a multitude of issues as to why we should crack down on “Historic Democracy Abuse”
Maybe we should call the investigating detective team “Yewbranch up your bum” or something.
When you get outvoted on something - you learn from the experience, and get more of your mates to get their arses out of bed and vote next time.
Old ■■■■■ don’t vote the way they do because they hate the younger generation - they just vote because they can and do. Pumping up the lefties with entitlements at the expense of low-interest rate OAP slavery - can only widen divisions further.
If we ever get a compulsory vote in this country - a “spoilt ballot paper” needs to be counted as a vote for Status Quo, whereas a “missing ballot paper” - How on earth do you enforce it?
I don’t think I’d want to see “We’ll stop your benefits if you don’t vote” - because we don’t actually WANT the vote of those buggers - do we?
we already have a Muslim major in the capitol city of the world who would of ever believed that 10 years ago ?
its clear the citys have a huge ethnic majority you only have to see how the vote turned out to see just how big some areas have huge majority’s again who would of though that 10 years ago ?
so just how will this country look in 10 years from now ?
Perhaps this is a demonstration of why the 52% need to push it NOW rather than leave it any longer… The more we wait - the more that demographic balance will swing across that center line, until eventually we’ll have Sharia Law voted in by 52%… .THAT could happen “in the next 10 years” if left unchecked. I hope that the narrow win on this occasion will motivate “other legacy British folk” (Ie. ‘us’) to get out and vote at every opportunity in the future - even to turn over daft policies like “banning billboards with scantily clad women on them”.
If we can only muster a 52% majority on a nationwide referendum vote scale forget it the indigenous,non Socialist,vote has already lost any demographic control over the country on a constituency electoral basis.The clock is now ticking to this inevitably not possibly being settled either way on a democratic basis.With the Cons just being a part of the problem by retreating to their own small enclaves like Cameron’s and May’s constituencies and helping it happen.Farage having obviously known it was all a lost cause in that regard long ago.Having gone into the referendum in the sure knowledge that he was going to lose it and as surprised as anyone else when he ‘won’ it.But obviously in the knowledge that there was no way that it was ever going to stick.
Which still leaves the question why the zb would he/we want to burn our bridges with the FN and AfD etc etc in that environment. 
So the propaganda isn’t over! 
Rjan:
No we knew that the whole net EU budget contribution was never all going to go to the NHS.But a lot more would obviously be available in that regard than letting the zb Socialists give it all away to the zb EU in the cause of East European wealth redistribution.So who’s the real liars in this case.The Leave campaign or the Socialist scum pretending to their naive brainwashed followers that there’d be more for money for the NHS by staying in.When the truth is their agenda is all about adding to their demographic with open door immigration and giving our money away to be spent on East European basket case economies.