Personality disorders are a source of frustration for me Contra. Its a catch 22 thing for me,cant get the disorder organized until I get a personality. I had a chat with myself earlier about this.
I have been told its actually ‘multiple personality disorder’ that i have. I have had a think about this and we think its ■■■■■■■■.
Contraflow:
James the cat:
Conor:
It is [zb] like you that has resulted in companies like that thinking its OK to send any old crap out on the road as long as the wheels turn.Thanks for nothing, ■■■■■■. I see the usual band of cowboys have jumped in to support you. When you get the support of that Irish ■■■■■■ its like a confirmation of what a prick you are.
What’s with the personal attacks? Can you not make your point without calling people tossers?
He can’t, he’s got a personality disorder and it’s one of the reasons why he’s stuck on agency doing the crappy night shifts that nobody else wants.
Is that the common known personality disorder called bellendism?
Typical knuckle dragging agency waller 
Conor:
switchlogic:
Good lord people, its showing red which would be good enough for me. You all worry too much, fines, ‘its my licence’ etc. You’re unlikely to get stopped let alone fined, and were aren’t at the point where we lose or licences for a broken light with a stop hai repair. You should have taken it imo. It wouldn’t hurt. And of next day it’s still not fixed then make a fuss. I would have attached it a bit more securely tho. Cue the condescending ‘hero’ posts…It is [zb] like you that has resulted in companies like that thinking its OK to send any old crap out on the road as long as the wheels turn.
Thanks for nothing, ■■■■■■. I see the usual band of cowboys have jumped in to support you. When you get the support of that Irish ■■■■■■ its like a confirmation of what a prick you are.
Conor, seriously mate■■? 
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You continuously come on here with your air of superiority which does not exactly endear you to a lot on this forum to say the least.
You make accusations and negative comments about certain members (including me in the past) a lot of which are unsubstantiated ■■■■■■■■, and when you are asked to qualify them and back them up you conveniently ignore such requests.
Now you have stooped to the lowest common denominator …personal attacks, and to cap it all, aimed towards a popular member on here. I’m sure Switch does not need me to defend him but a lot of that particular post that he made did contain a bit of common sense, that is from a ‘real world transport’ perspective, and maybe not the Agency world of ‘theory over substance’ which you regularly appear to subscribe to.
You are obviously an educated bloke, but your attitude and questionable social etiquette does nothing for you winning any friends on here 
And to answer the o/p I would have either got another lens from a trailer that was not going out (but I do carry spare) if no lens put a red bulb in (which I also carry) or even improve the temporary repair by blocking out the white light showing. What I wouldn’t do is refuse to take it out, but then again I aint Agency 
…cheap shot, yeh,… but Conor started it 
amamdada:
A few years ago now got a call to do a night trunk as their own driver had gone sick,Turned up unit had both nearside mirrors smashed and a number of bulbs and lenses on the trailer out/broken. I said to the TM you need to get the mirrors and the lights sorted before I take that out. Lots of moaning finally gets a mechanic out.
In the meantime get a call from the agency the client has rung and said you are being petty about a couple of minor faults with the unit and trailer told the agency fella what the score was and finished off with its my licence and I am happy to go home again if its a problem. Anyway gets sorted and head to Bilston for a trailer swap on the road think to myself she’s flying look at the speedo obviously the limiter is not working.
Get to Bilston the trailer I am picking up has more bulbs and lenses missing. I says to the driver you bought that up like that knowing its a swap, he says yeah but looks like the one I’m taking back is ok ,not for long mate says I as I promptly remove the bulbs and lenses I need to put on the trailer I am taking back, Gets another call from the agency saying the client says you are removing lenses and bulbs uneccesarily again tell the agency bloke the score and give him a choice I am coming back with or without the trailer which would you like, carry on came the reply. Get back the TM signs my sheet albeit reluctantly and says I doubt if we will be using you again ,well that saves me telling you to stick your job up your arse in the future does’nt it.
dieseldog999:
looks like yet another wee hissy fit by your man that seems to despise truckies so much if they are not applicable to his perfect bubble beancounting world of agency driving…dummy looks well spat out now.hardly surprising agency with zero hours is the claim to fame there,realistically what normal company would employ someone with that mindset…wernt we all waiting with baited breath to see when the enevitable beancouting ■■■■ reply would pop up? no doubt along the lines of,i could get a real job if I wanted to but I want to have a zero hours job so I can work when I want and take days off when I want because it suits my misses and il tell all the agencies clamouring for me to work for them il do a shift when I deem them worthy of my time as im a number 1 driving god above all others,and if you don’t agree with me then yaa boo ■■■■■.and blinking flip to everybody else…blablabla.its like listening to a 5 year olds logic here…yet again so boring and predictable.hohum…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Sorry I don’t speak ■■■■■■. Would you care to repost that in a way that looks like you actually attended primary school and learnt basic punctuation?
Conor:
dieseldog999:
looks like yet another wee hissy fit by your man that seems to despise truckies so much if they are not applicable to his perfect bubble beancounting world of agency driving…dummy looks well spat out now.hardly surprising agency with zero hours is the claim to fame there,realistically what normal company would employ someone with that mindset…wernt we all waiting with baited breath to see when the enevitable beancouting ■■■■ reply would pop up? no doubt along the lines of,i could get a real job if I wanted to but I want to have a zero hours job so I can work when I want and take days off when I want because it suits my misses and il tell all the agencies clamouring for me to work for them il do a shift when I deem them worthy of my time as im a number 1 driving god above all others,and if you don’t agree with me then yaa boo ■■■■■.and blinking flip to everybody else…blablabla.its like listening to a 5 year olds logic here…yet again so boring and predictable.hohum…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzSorry I don’t speak ■■■■■■. Would you care to repost that in a way that looks like you actually attended primary school and learnt basic punctuation?
No you just type like one
Conor:
dieseldog999:
looks like yet another wee hissy fit by your man that seems to despise truckies so much if they are not applicable to his perfect bubble beancounting world of agency driving…dummy looks well spat out now.hardly surprising agency with zero hours is the claim to fame there,realistically what normal company would employ someone with that mindset…wernt we all waiting with baited breath to see when the enevitable beancouting ■■■■ reply would pop up? no doubt along the lines of,i could get a real job if I wanted to but I want to have a zero hours job so I can work when I want and take days off when I want because it suits my misses and il tell all the agencies clamouring for me to work for them il do a shift when I deem them worthy of my time as im a number 1 driving god above all others,and if you don’t agree with me then yaa boo ■■■■■.and blinking flip to everybody else…blablabla.its like listening to a 5 year olds logic here…yet again so boring and predictable.hohum…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzSorry I don’t speak ■■■■■■. Would you care to repost that in a way that looks like you actually attended primary school and learnt basic punctuation?
robroy:
if no lens put a red bulb in
So its ok to drive with no lens as long as it still shows red?
The-Snowman:
robroy:
if no lens put a red bulb inSo its ok to drive with no lens as long as it still shows red?
Yup, the lens cover is just weather protection.
The-Snowman:
robroy:
if no lens put a red bulb inSo its ok to drive with no lens as long as it still shows red?
Well it’s an improvement on no light at all, but no doubt a certain dcpc holder/spokesman will come on here and give you the actual law to the letter stating the regulation and sub section number… and call me a ■■■■■■ ■■■■ for good measure for not knowing it
bobdebouwer:
Yup, the lens cover is just weather protection.
Well you learn something new everyday!
robroy:
The-Snowman:
robroy:
if no lens put a red bulb inSo its ok to drive with no lens as long as it still shows red?
Well it’s an improvement on no light at all, but no doubt a certain dcpc holder/spokesman will come on here and give you the actual law to the letter stating the regulation and sub section number… and call me a [zb] [zb] for good measure for not knowing it
Challenge accepted, this good for you??
The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989
Maintenance of lamps, reflectors, rear markings and devices
23.—(1) No person shall use, or cause or permit to be used, on a road a vehicle unless every lamp, reflector, rear marking and device to which this paragraph applies is in good working order and, in the case of a lamp, clean.
(2) Save as provided in paragraph (3), paragraph (1) applies to–
(a)every–
(i)front position lamp,
(ii)rear position lamp,
(iii)headlamp,
(iv)rear registration plate lamp,
(v)side marker lamp,
(vi)end-outline marker lamp,
(vii)rear fog lamp,
(viii)retro reflector, and
(ix)rear marking of a type specified in Part I of Section B of Schedule 19,with which the vehicle is required by these Regulations to be fitted; and
(b)every–
(i)stop lamp,
(ii)direction indicator,
(iii)running lamp,
(iv)dim-dip device,
(v)headlamp levelling device, and
(vi)hazard warning signal device,with which it is fitted.
SCHEDULE 10
PART I
Requirements relating to obligatory rear position lamps and to optional rear position lamps to the extent specified in part ii
(a) Any vehicle not covered by sub-paragraph (b), (c), (d), (e), (f ), (g) or (h):
Two
(b) A bus first used before 1st April 1955:
One
(c) A solo motor bicycle:
One
(d) A pedal cycle with less than four wheels and without a sidecar:
One
(e) A trailer drawn by a pedal cycle and a trailer, the overall width of which does not exceed 800 mm, drawn by a solo motor bicycle or by a motor bicycle combination:
One
(f) An invalid carriage having a maximum speed not exceeding 4 mph:
One
(g) A vehicle drawn or propelled by hand:
One
(h) A motor vehicle having three or more wheels and a maximum speed not exceeding 25 mph and a trailer drawn by any such vehicle if, in either case, the structure of the vehicle makes it impracticable to meet all of the relevant requirements of paragraphs 2 and 3 below with two lamps:
Four
2. Position–
(a) Longitudinal:
At or near the rear
(b) Lateral–
(i)Where two lamps are required to be fitted–
(A)Maximum distance from the side of the vehicle–
(1)Any vehicle not covered by sub-paragraph (2): 400 mm
(2)A motor vehicle first used before 1st April 1986 and any other vehicle manufactured before 1st October 1985: 800 mm
(B)Minimum separation distance between a pair of rear position lamps–
(1)Any vehicle not covered by sub-paragraph (2): 500 mm. If the overall width of the vehicle is less than 1400 mm, 400 mm or if less than 800 mm, 300 mm
(2)A motor vehicle first used before 1st April 1986 and any other vehicle manufactured before 1st October 1985: No requirement
(ii)Where one lamp is required to be fitted: On the centre-line or off side of the vehicle
(iii)Where four lamps are required to be fitted–
(A)Maximum distance from the side of the vehicle–
(1)One pair of lamps: Such that they satisfy the relevant requirements in sub-paragraph 2(b)(i)(A)
(2)The other pair of lamps: No requirement
(B)Minimum separation distance between rear position lamps–
(1)One pair of lamps: Such that they satisfy the relevant requirements in sub-paragraph 2(b)(i)(B)
(2)The other pair of lamps: No requirement
(c) Vertical–
(i)Maximum height above the ground where one or two rear position lamps are required to be fitted–
(A)Any vehicle not covered by sub-paragraph (B) or (C): 1500 mm or, if the structure of the vehicle makes this impracticable, 2100 mm
(B)A bus first used before 1st April 1986: No requirement
(C)A motor vehicle first used before 1st April 1986 not being a bus, a trailer manufactured before 1st October 1985, an agricultural vehicle, a horse-drawn vehicle, an industrial tractor and engineering plant: 2100 mm
(ii)Maximum height above the ground where four rear position lamps are required to be fitted–
(A)One pair of lamps: Such that they satisfy the relevant requirements in paragraph 2(c)(i)
(B)The other pair of lamps: No requirement
(iii)Minimum height above the ground–
(A)A vehicle not covered by sub-paragraph (B): 350 mm
(B)A motor vehicle first used before 1st April 1986 and any other vehicle manufactured before 1st October 1985 No requirement
3. Angles of visibility–
(a) A motor vehicle, other than a motor bicycle combination, first used on or after 1st April 1986 and a trailer manufactured on or after 1st October 1985–
(i)Horizontal–
(A)Where two lamp are required to be fitted: 45° inwards and 80° outwards
(B)Where one lamp is required to be fitted: 80° to the left and to the right
(C)Where four lamps are required to be fitted–
(1)The outer pair of lamps: 0° inwards and 80° outwards
(2)The inner pair of lamps: 45° inwards and 80° outwards
(ii)Vertical–
(A)Where one or two rear position lamps are required to be fitted–
(1)Any vehicle not covered by sub-paragraph (2) or (3): 15° above and below the horizontal
(2)Where the highest part of the illuminated area of the lamp is less than 1500 mm above the ground: 15° above and 10° below the horizontal
(3)Where the highest part of the illuminated area of the lamp is less than 750 mm above the ground: 15° above and 5° below the horizontal
(B)Where four rear position lamps are required to be fitted–
(1)One pair of lamps: Such that they satisfy the relevant requirements in paragraph 3(a)(ii)(A)
(2)The other pair of lamps: Visible to the rear
(b) A motor vehicle, other than a motor bicycle combination, first used before 1st April 1986 and any other vehicle manufactured before 1st October 1985:
Visible to the rear
(c) A vehicle drawn or propelled by hand, a pedal cycle, a horse-drawn vehicle and a motor bicycle combination:
Visible to the rear
4. Alignment:
To the rear
5. Markings–
(a) A motor vehicle or a trailer not covered by sub-paragraph (b), (c) or (d):
An approval mark
(b) A motor vehicle first used before 1st January 1974 and a trailer, other than a trailer drawn by a pedal cycle, manufactured before that date:
No requirement
(c) A solo motor bicycle and a motor bicycle combination, in each case first used before 1st April 1986, and a trailer manufactured before 1st October 1985 and drawn by a solo motor bicycle or a motor bicycle combination:
No requirement
(d) A pedal cycle, a trailer drawn by a pedal cycle, an invalid carriage having a maximum speed not exceeding 4 mph, a horse-drawn vehicle and a vehicle drawn or propelled by hand:
An approval mark or a British Standard mark
6. Size of illuminated area:
No requirement
7. Colour:
Red
8. Wattage:
No requirement
9. Intensity–
(a) A rear position lamp bearing any of the markings mentioned in paragraph 4:
No requirement
(b) Any other rear position lamp:
Visible from a reasonable distance
10. Electrical connections:
No individual requirement
11. Tell-tale:
No requirement
12. Other requirements–
(a) Except in the case of a motor vehicle first used before 1st April 1986, any other vehicle manufactured before 1st October 1985 and a motor bicycle combination, where two rear position lamps are required to be fitted they shall form a matched pair and where four rear position lamps are required to be fitted they shall form two matched pairs.
(b) A rear position lamp shall not be fitted on a boot lid or other movable part of the vehicle.
In this Schedule–
“approval mark” means–
(a)in relation to a solo motor bicycle, a motor bicycle combination and a trailer drawn by a solo motor bicycle or a motor bicycle combination, a marking designated as an approval mark by regulation 4 of the Designation of Approval Marks Regulations and shown at item 50A of Schedule 2 to those Regulations, and
(b)in relation to any other motor vehicle or any other trailer, either–
(i)a marking designated as an approval mark by regulation 5 of the Designation of Approval Marks Regulations and shown at item 6 or, if combined with a stop lamp, at item 8 of Schedule 4 to those Regulations, or
(ii)a marking designated as an approval mark by regulation 4 of the Designation of Approval Marks Regulations and shown at item 7A or, if combined with a stop lamp, at item 7C of Schedule 2 to those Regulations; and
“British Standard mark” means–
(a)the mark indicated in the specification for cycle rear lamps published by the British Standards Institution under the reference 3648:1963 as amended by Amendment PD 6137 published in May 1967 and by AMD 4753 published in July 1985, or
(b)the mark indicated in the specification for photometric and physical requirements for lighting equipment published by the British Standards Institution under the reference BS 6102: Part 3: 1986, namely “BS 6102/3”.
PART II
Requirements relating to optional rear position lamps
Any number may be fitted and the only requirement prescribed by these Regulations in respect of any which are fitted is that specified in paragraph 7 of Part I.
Missing lens is an MOT fail so presumably still a potentially delayed prohibition.
few years ago i read of an ipswich trucker who was ran into by an elderly couples car in the early hours . they were heading out on a holiday,the early start and they both died instantly. this was due to faulty lighting so it said in the paper. he got off
every time i pass the spot i think,is it still troubling him, it would me
Contraflow:
James the cat:
Conor:
It is [zb] like you that has resulted in companies like that thinking its OK to send any old crap out on the road as long as the wheels turn.Thanks for nothing, ■■■■■■. I see the usual band of cowboys have jumped in to support you. When you get the support of that Irish ■■■■■■ its like a confirmation of what a prick you are.
What’s with the personal attacks? Can you not make your point without calling people tossers?
He can’t, he’s got a personality disorder and it’s one of the reasons why he’s stuck on agency doing the crappy night shifts that nobody else wants.
I’ve always been suspicious of claims that the agency hours and money make for the ideal lifestyle.
However, I think, I could have been wrong. If your lifestyle is behaving like a bell end on the internet then it probably is, in fact, perfect.
Thanks to bobdebouer for taking up my challenge with so much enthusiasm 
, but firstly you forgot to call me ■■■■ : in a Conor stylee , and secondly if faced with a broken lens on a ■■■■■■■ wet cold night, and having the choice of either fitting a temporary red bulb or reading all that crap and deciding not to, I would still decide it is better than no light at all every time.
At my previous company there would have been at least a dozen drivers racing to the trailer park to get that posh trailer…seriously
robroy:
Thanks to bobdebouer for taking up my challenge with so much enthusiasm
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