I have the Iveco and the cab is very well suited for tramping, lots of space everywhere, decent sized bunk if a bit hard and plenty of guts even at 44 tons.
The gearbox is dreadful and harks back to the days when you could pour a brew, roll a ■■■ and have a bite of your sarnie between changes.
I can’t comment on the MAN’s as not drove one for a while but why not ask your boss if you can have a try in both for a couple of days?
I have driven MAN’s for the last 10 years and find them comftable and safe to drive.
We have had batches of new ones with problems such as needing new cylinder heads due to valve problems after about 150000 kms and some others using water due to I think EGR cooler problems.
They where all fixed under warranty and I have never broken down.
I used to work for a company delivering Ivecos brand new from the docks and used ones from the dealers.
I have seen all the clapped out ex lease models stock piled in yards around the country that no body wants as they are falling to bits after a couple of years.
Even the salesmen I spoke to would admit Ivecos are crap.
I would genuinely choose to drive a five year old MAN than a brand new Iveco.
nab:
I have driven MAN’s for the last 10 years and find them comftable and safe to drive.
We have had batches of new ones with problems such as needing new cylinder heads due to valve problems after about 150000 kms and some others using water due to I think EGR cooler problems.
They where all fixed under warranty and I have never broken down.
I used to work for a company delivering Ivecos brand new from the docks and used ones from the dealers.
I have seen all the clapped out ex lease models stock piled in yards around the country that no body wants as they are falling to bits after a couple of years.
Even the salesmen I spoke to would admit Ivecos are crap.
I would genuinely choose to drive a five year old MAN than a brand new Iveco.
Were the clapped-out lease Ivecos EuroCargos or Stralis (or the horror that was the EuroTech?)?
the newer, Spanish-built Stralis are supposed to be rather better than older models.
My 11 plate TGX has done 540,000kms and is tight as a drum. Won’t pull you out of bed fully freighted, but I carry shedloads of gear with me, and can quite easily keep it all out of view yet accessible. Usually two attempts to coax it into gear does the trick. (Might just be me being too quick with the switch)
I’ve only driven Iveco rigids, but I hated them with a passion, very little standard equipment, cheap and nasty feel to them and rattled like a fatherless child. Drank oil, and I mean drank it, 5 litres a week. Electronic gauge was hopeless, so I was tilting the cab all the while to check it with the dipstick. Bulbs blew all over the place and they gave me backache.
Could go on for hours about the bleeding things.
MAN all the way. Never minded driving a DAF, but they just seemed so plasticky and dated.
nab:
I have driven MAN’s for the last 10 years and find them comftable and safe to drive.
We have had batches of new ones with problems such as needing new cylinder heads due to valve problems after about 150000 kms and some others using water due to I think EGR cooler problems.
They where all fixed under warranty and I have never broken down.
I used to work for a company delivering Ivecos brand new from the docks and used ones from the dealers.
I have seen all the clapped out ex lease models stock piled in yards around the country that no body wants as they are falling to bits after a couple of years.
Even the salesmen I spoke to would admit Ivecos are crap.
I would genuinely choose to drive a five year old MAN than a brand new Iveco.
Were the clapped-out lease Ivecos EuroCargos or Stralis (or the horror that was the EuroTech?)?
the newer, Spanish-built Stralis are supposed to be rather better than older models.
drove a eurotech 340 all over Europe and never missed a beat, agree cheap plastics but for what it cost compared to Volvo/scanias and given the room inside I was pretty happy.
Drove MAN for 10 yrs never any real problems, and the last 5 yrs was from brand new with no problems. Could be worse, you could have been offered a choice between DAF and Scania.
I’m currently driving a TGX. Is ok to be away in all week, comfortable to drive and I like the bed.
Passenger seat can’t go back far enough to stretch out in thr evening.
Centre console corner to close to passenger seat, resulting in banking your knee.
Fridge under bed sticks out, to double up as step for top bunk. Always in the way.
Gear change by committee. … pulling away at roundabouts is a lottery.
Wanders terribly in ‘tram lines’.
Engine brake via messenger. Engine brake level by roll of dice…
Any load over 20 ton and she’ll trow a wobble.
Demister demists passenger side only.
Interior locker doors hinge up, leaving corners at head height.
Locker doors don’t clear the ‘shelfs’ above cab doors.
Mirrors create massive blind spots.
nodding donkey:
I’m currently driving a TGX. Is ok to be away in all week, comfortable to drive and I like the bed.
Passenger seat can’t go back far enough to stretch out in thr evening.
Centre console corner to close to passenger seat, resulting in banking your knee.
Fridge under bed sticks out, to double up as step for top bunk. Always in the way.
Gear change by committee. … pulling away at roundabouts is a lottery.
Wanders terribly in ‘tram lines’.
Engine brake via messenger. Engine brake level by roll of dice…
Any load over 20 ton and she’ll trow a wobble.
Demister demists passenger side only.
Interior locker doors hinge up, leaving corners at head height.
Locker doors don’t clear the ‘shelfs’ above cab doors.
Mirrors create massive blind spots.
Shame that, I can only recognise one of the problems you have, ( Gear Change ) ?
Iveco for me too, they pull like a train the gearbox in the hiway is responsive and it’s a decent cab with good storage and if u do general haulage etc plenty outside lockers for stuff , too many knock the new ivecos before they have tried one !
nodding donkey:
I’m currently driving a TGX. Is ok to be away in all week, comfortable to drive and I like the bed.
Passenger seat can’t go back far enough to stretch out in thr evening.
Centre console corner to close to passenger seat, resulting in banking your knee.
Engine brake via messenger. Engine brake level by roll of dice…
Any load over 20 ton and she’ll trow a wobble.
mines a 540 with factory retarder so no problems at all on pulling or stopping i put the bottom bunk up on a night so i can recline the seat back, your right about the centre console though, especially with the ashtray open
Was at a place we tip at occasionally and noticed they had changed their units to volvo FH from Iveco stralis . I asked the driver what he thought of the stralis ,
The usual thing of crap / falling apart plastics in the cab , water ingress into the cab and associated electrical problems .
He was well happy with the FH even tho it is a couple of years older than the stralis was .
I think if he is giving you a choice , you should have a good look over a man or stralis before he buys
Thanks for all the comments, Il shall have a look at both vehicles and drive them see what takes my fancy need to like what you have to live in day in and out
Firm I worked for had tgx xlx,drove one for best part of 3 years,nice and comfy to drive,excellent bunk,but being a 440 had loads of breakdowns due to no ad-blue. Now drive a Strallis,the big cabs have loads of room,lots of exterior locker space,the 500’s pull like a train but just ain’t as nice to drive as the tgx,build quality ain’t as good either. It’s horses for courses but if it was me it would be the tgx all day long,just would have to be a 480 or 540.
My guilty secret is that I actually like Iveco’s. This problem started in the 80’s when I was given on demo a mighty Turbostar, nothing, but nothing on the roads at the time could live with it. Yeah bits fall off and stop working (it is Italian after all) but I genuinely believe that they have character and are “interesting”, in much the same way as the man on your estate who throws stones at the Moon is.
The MAN on the other hand is just a truck, sure it does what it says on the tin and will deliver tat from A to B all day long, but they are sooooo boring.