jakethesnake:
As for me, I’ll become a funeral director. I reckon people will carry on dying for quite a while yet.Best post yet.
I wannabe a politician and tell you all it isn’t happening and you’ve all to tighten your belts and worker harder.
Franglais:
switchlogic:
Drive a coachYou horrible Sod Luke!
A fate worse than death. Being trapped in a confined space, with people you can`t avoid. Having to interact with strangers. Having to take whatever hand is dealt you.Have you no feeling for the travelling public?
Touchè 
Grandpa:
Jimmy McNulty:
Grandpa:
Firstly I ain’t stuck. Gig economy mate when I want out I will get out.
Secondly if Grandpa (or should I say jakethefake) says it Tuesday its Tuesday.
Jakey (or should I say Grandpa) I could post all the links in the world to suit an agenda I want to argue, doesn’t mean its right. But posting a link from an insolvency practice saying that they have a lot of experience in insolvency, are you a bit special?
. Do you know there was a recession in 2008? )
Yes. Also in 2007 and during most of 2009. We had a recession in 2012 and 2013 and there was one I think in 15 or 16.
A lot of Europe and the US were in recession in the early 2000’s and of course there was the recession in 1991ish.
Of course the bigger problem in 2007 that of course you seen coming was the global financial crisis brought on by sub standard lendi blah blah blah
No Jimmy, there wasn’t a recession in 2007, it began in late 2008 although the businesses began to lay of around 2007 because they could see it coming. 2007 and it was still booming. The global financial crisis was the recession, although it took a long time to go round the world. Previously the dot com bubble in the late 90s, etc. Some say and I agree, is that we never came out of the recession and we’re still in the dips and peaks bounce period.
Did I see it coming? Yes of course I did and millions also saw it. We’re the ones who emigrated and missed the unemployment queues and food banks. The ones who said it wouldn’t happen and believed the government hype are the ones who suffered the most and lost their jobs and mortgages. This time will be no different as the gullible can’t even see it coming.
Will you do the rest of us a favour and emigrate somewhere without an internet connection this time then so the rest of us gullible ■■■■■■■■ can carry on with working out the best HGV sat nav and what gear we need to take on a night out
Maybe you can get a daily mail or whatever it is you read so you can believe all the doom and gloom you read and think to yourself, I bloody told em so, all foreigners are going home even they don’t like it anymore.
jakethesnake:
As for me, I’ll become a funeral director. I reckon people will carry on dying for quite a while yet.Best post yet.
Trouble is, if we’re to believe everything we hear, the advances in medical technology will soon lead to everyone living forever.
I wonder if funeral directors are on a forum similar to this discussing the demise of their industry.
I think the original question is looking at how we will spend our time when at some point in the future there will effectively be no jobs as we understand today, technology is changing everything, and it will at some point get rid of driving, be that car or truck. I only do a couple of days driving per week now, quite simply because the job is horrendous, I’ll still do the odd tour in the summer etc but apart from that I don’t want to be wasting my life behind a wheel, I have recently done a PAT testing course and bought the gear and started doing that to bring money in, it’s not making me rich, but I’m home every night, don’t start until 8am, usually done by 4pm and earn as much as I would in a 15 hour shift. I can’t honestly remember the last drive that made me happy, it’s jusy bloody miserable now.
noisycarl:
I think the original question is looking at how we will spend our time when at some point in the future there will effectively be no jobs as we understand today, technology is changing everything, and it will at some point get rid of driving, be that car or truck. I only do a couple of days driving per week now, quite simply because the job is horrendous, I’ll still do the odd tour in the summer etc but apart from that I don’t want to be wasting my life behind a wheel, I have recently done a PAT testing course and bought the gear and started doing that to bring money in, it’s not making me rich, but I’m home every night, don’t start until 8am, usually done by 4pm and earn as much as I would in a 15 hour shift. I can’t honestly remember the last drive that made me happy, it’s jusy bloody miserable now.
You paint a dim picture of the job mate, a lot of what you say is true.
This job bears little resemblance to the one I started in terms of regs and general b/s.
Some of this mundane trunking and rdc stuff I would hate to do, and being pushed to the limit by some little ■■■■ who knows nothing about the job would make it 10x worse.
All this stuff, with the hours, the t.s and c.s with poor pay, and crap and harassment like some guys having cameras facing them today, makes me wonder how young guys are attracted to this industry anymore.
I’m just pleased that I’ve got a steady little number that suits me at the moment, and that’s what it’s all about these days…looking after numero uno, because nobody will back you up if you try and improve things.
Nite Owl:
jakethesnake:
As for me, I’ll become a funeral director. I reckon people will carry on dying for quite a while yet.Best post yet.
Trouble is, if we’re to believe everything we hear, the advances in medical technology will soon lead to everyone living forever.
I wonder if funeral directors are on a forum similar to this discussing the demise of their industry.
Probably when the power of monoatomic gold (powdered gold) is fully realised,alongside colloidal silver.Worthy of some research.Texe Marrs_(illuminati) book gives an incredible account of how an American mettalurgist/farmer inadvertantly created m.a.g when spraying a barren field with certain chemicals.Absolutely mind blowing off the scale properties of said metal.Ditto colloidal silver,beats any anti biotics,if manufactured carefully,can be home made and is effective against hundreds of maladies.
Is there a safe trade to be in these days?
Im in the middle of my process to becoming a lgv driver at 45.
Ive been a mechanic for almost 30 years but the car game looks to implode sometime soon so im looking to get out.
Now i read that driving for a living is going the same way!
Is any trade safe/ have a future now?
Rich
Hopefully I can avoid the willy waving going on in this thread and make a comment about the original post.
It strikes me that there are 3 areas of transport far more suitable for automation and none of them have gone down that route yet.
Airline pilots. What’s the purpose of them now? Commercial aircraft are capable of taking off, flying in the right direction and then landing without any input required from onboard pilots. I have a friend who is a senior captain with a very well known British airline and his salary is far from insubstantial, multiply it by the number of pilots and any airline could make massive savings if they went fully automated with current technology, but they won’t.
Train drivers, another area that would be relatively simple to fully automate with current technology, but with the odd exception like the Docklands light railway, they won’t do it.
Why not?
Commercial shipping, a route from A to B could easily be navigated by today’s technology only requiring a pilot at each port, that happens in the majority of cases now so why the need for a crew between ports.
The point is, these industries would be easier to automate than truck driving, but none even of them have done so yet and none of them have the complexity encountered driving a truck through a busy urban environment.
Personally I can’t see self driving trucks becoming anything other than an attention grabbing distraction for many years, decades probably. I would guess that anybody spending their hard earned now on an HGV licence can look forward to a very long career in the industry (if they can stick it that long!!!)
Tgtrucker:
Why not?
Uhm, unions? There’s only a handful of UK airlines and railway companies most of them old as dirt, road transport companies are countless with some going extinct and others taking their place overnight. For aircraft I can see why, if there’s an accident the consequences are going to be ground shaking and it’s going to be very hard to convince people to ever fly on an automated plane. For trains it makes a lot more sense to automate even now at least some of them, but unions.
I’m not sure theres a future for the human race in general,ner mind trucking given the current rate of planetary plunder at large,augmented by an unsustainable fiat currency system wielded by a criminal bankster class.
Maybe a genuine localism needs to gain traction.Authentic environmentalism based on ridding the planet of billions of tons of mobile metal and the concretetation of our finest rural locales.
Tgtrucker:
Hopefully I can avoid the willy waving going on in this thread and make a comment about the original post.
It strikes me that there are 3 areas of transport far more suitable for automation and none of them have gone down that route yet.
Airline pilots. What’s the purpose of them now? Commercial aircraft are capable of taking off, flying in the right direction and then landing without any input required from onboard pilots. I have a friend who is a senior captain with a very well known British airline and his salary is far from insubstantial, multiply it by the number of pilots and any airline could make massive savings if they went fully automated with current technology, but they won’t.
Train drivers, another area that would be relatively simple to fully automate with current technology, but with the odd exception like the Docklands light railway, they won’t do it.
Why not?
Commercial shipping, a route from A to B could easily be navigated by today’s technology only requiring a pilot at each port, that happens in the majority of cases now so why the need for a crew between ports.The point is, these industries would be easier to automate than truck driving, but none even of them have done so yet and none of them have the complexity encountered driving a truck through a busy urban environment.
Personally I can’t see self driving trucks becoming anything other than an attention grabbing distraction for many years, decades probably. I would guess that anybody spending their hard earned now on an HGV licence can look forward to a very long career in the industry (if they can stick it that long!!!)
I dont think automated shipping is that far off, I remembered reading something about it a while ago and did a quick Google. Found this:
opensea.pro/blog/automated-ships
Pilotless aircraft are already here. The military has been using drone attack aircraft for some time now. The technology is already available. The biggest stumbling block that I can see is public perception
Know nothing about trains (some might say I should have stopped at “I know nothing”), and dont understand why they havent been automated. Like others, I suspect a strong union presence may play a part.
Personally I’ve always thought that auto trucks (and cars) would be the most difficult to achieve due to the environment they operate in. That leads me to believe there is an ulterior motive for the rush in their development.
Pilotless aircraft are already here. The military has been using drone attack aircraft for some time now. The technology is already available. The biggest stumbling block that I can see is public perception
Know nothing about trains (some might say I should have stopped at “I know nothing”), and dont understand why they havent been automated. Like others, I suspect a strong union presence may play a part.
Personally I’ve always thought that auto trucks (and cars) would be the most difficult to achieve due to the environment they operate in. That leads me to believe there is an ulterior motive for the rush in their development.
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surely a drone is no more automated than an automatic car or truck…it might do a lot of the work itself,but it needs someone to fly it,drive it,control it,and take charge a lot of the time.?
dieseldog999:
Pilotless aircraft are already here. The military has been using drone attack aircraft for some time now. The technology is already available. The biggest stumbling block that I can see is public perceptionKnow nothing about trains (some might say I should have stopped at “I know nothing”), and dont understand why they havent been automated. Like others, I suspect a strong union presence may play a part.
Personally I’ve always thought that auto trucks (and cars) would be the most difficult to achieve due to the environment they operate in. That leads me to believe there is an ulterior motive for the rush in their development.
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surely a drone is no more automated than an automatic car or truck…it might do a lot of the work itself,but it needs someone to fly it,drive it,control it,and take charge a lot of the time.?
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Look at the small camera drones you can buy today:
Single button take off and landing. Auto return to base. Set a course by drawing a line on your phone. Or have it follow you. Collision avoidance.
All that in a compact lightweight device for a few hundred quid.
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Be a few in Christmas stockings…
I’m getting distracted now…
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Technology gets better, smaller and cheaper all the time.
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Forget door to door, and shop deliveries for domestic stuff. Order online, and collect yourself from Amazon type lockers at local depots.
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Franglais:
Forget door to door, and shop deliveries for domestic stuff. Order online, and collect yourself from Amazon type lockers at local depots.
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Amazon are already planning to use drones for local deliveries amazon.com/Amazon-Prime-Air … 8037720011 so no need to leave the house anymore
I wonder how they’re going to stop people from nicking the drones/packages though.
the urban hyenas and scallywags will have a field day bricking them out of the sky…
Proper handbags at dawn here.
If your due to retire why you even giving a ■■■■. Just leave it up to the younger boys.
By the time automated trucks take over the indusry youl have pushed up more flowers than an afghan poppy field anyway.
I’d imagine in the future one person may control (or oversee) several trucks at once whilst sat in a control room. HGV drivers may never be eliminated, but the nature of their work will. They will probably operate lorries remotely, even onto the dodgy building sites, where labourers will unload it before the remote-controller drives it off site and oversees/monitors it (as well as a few others) during its return journey. The remote-controller may well be the fleet manager too.
Would I rather sit in a room at a computer screen remotely controlling a lorry, or would I rather be in it? I think I’d rather be in it.
In answer to the original question I will be before it is!
ezydriver:
I’d imagine in the future one person may control (or oversee) several trucks at once whilst sat in a control room. HGV drivers may never be eliminated, but the nature of their work will. They will probably operate lorries remotely, even onto the dodgy building sites, where labourers will unload it before the remote-controller drives it off site and oversees/monitors it (as well as a few others) during its return journey. The remote-controller may well be the fleet manager too.Would I rather sit in a room at a computer screen remotely controlling a lorry, or would I rather be in it? I think I’d rather be in it.
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a glimpse into the future.