What will you do once trucking is dead?

dieseldog999:
a glimpse into the future.

youtube.com/watch?v=hZ3h-6_ZbhU

lol the red Scania @1:55 has a ■■■ doll on the passenger seat, just like mine. Ahm. I mean not like mine. I don’t have a ■■■ doll, that’s ridiculous. Who would want such a thing

That one time somewhere on the A34, early autumn this year actually, a biker passed me and behind him was sat what appeared to be a ■■■■■■■■■ in mini-jean-shorts with half her ■■■■ cheeks sticking out. Naturally, 0.14 seconds later my nose was glued to my windshield and I determined it was actually a doll :blush: Waste of a ■■■■■. I can confirm at least 2 cars that were lazily overtaking me suddenly picked up their speed and zoomed past me closely following him. Well played to the guy, though.

Found this…

On t’interweb. It claims a self driving truck successfully delivered a load of butter 2,800 miles across the good ol’ USA.

mercurynews.com/2019/12/10/ … hree-days/

As an aside, I found this in the comments section.

‘Not only are we staring down the barrel of having to rethink the value of work, but city and state police departments will have to survive without the revenues from DUI and other moving violation fines. Dunkin’ Donuts everywhere’ll be packed with bored cops’.

^^^^

‘’‘had to take scheduled breaks but drove mostly autonomously. There were zero “disengagements,” or times the self-driving system had to be suspended because of a problem, Kerrigan said.’‘’’

It either made the trip autonomously, or it did the trip ‘mostly’ autonomously, so which is it, either the machine was capable of the entire journey unassisted or it wasn’t.

So another big publicity stunt with a ‘driver’ in attendance plus an (IT presumably) engineer in the cab in case error 404 appeared an the thing decided to abort everything on the road.

Somewhere in the blurb is some ■■■■■■■■ about a commercial roll out in 2022 :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

It seems the technology is moving faster than some would like to believe!
Truth is its a lot further on than most even realise.

Two and a half years ago, Volvo was going to have a fleet of self-driving XC90s operating in London within two years.

No sign of them yet.

A guy I know who works in the field says true self-driving autonomous vehicles operating ‘in the mix’ with other traffic on the full range of roads are getting increasingly delayed as the sheer complexity of what’s being attempted becomes apparent. Self-driving shunters in depots are easy, urban multidrop in London or milk collection in West Wales are going to be more of a challenge!

Teslas on ‘Autopilot’ keep driving into things.

jakethesnake:
It seems the technology is moving faster than some would like to believe!
Truth is its a lot further on than most even realise.

:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: . There’s more chance of a rollout of an autonomous machine that can for example flog a dead horse. :wink:

If trains are not automated yet… dont worry about trucks and cars. 10 years ago vehicle automation was 5 years away. 5 years ago automation was 2 years away. The most advanced technology in vehicle automation at the moment, turns into a killer machine with white paint being accidentally spilled on the road, and it only works in good weather. Anyway, machines always fail at some point. Every year there are millions of factories recalls for wrongly fit seatbelts, aribag sensors, and so on. If stablished technologies arent still mastered, I dont think we will see a driverless vehicle on its way to a pizza delivery overtake us on M25 anytime soon. Maybe when quantum computing merges with AI. By then skynet will have already been activated, so jobs will be the last thing on anyone’s mind

When I eventually drive a lorry where the auto wipers work properly, then I’ll begin worrying. I’m sure I’ll see myself to my pension driving lorries if I choose to.

i’m sure i read a few days ago yet another tesla rammed a parked police car which was parked behind a broken down vehicle whilst on autopilot , yet again

tonyj105:
i’m sure i read a few days ago yet another tesla rammed a parked police car which was parked behind a broken down vehicle whilst on autopilot , yet again

Of course people driving cars and trucks never crash.
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I’m not saying auto-pilots are ready for roll out now, I do say they shouldn’t be compared with perfection.

Juddian:
Lots of us have found our niche’s in the transport sector, and there’s no way on this earth that we’re being replaced by a machine.

Yes as Jimmy McNulty notes the transport sector changes, but the basic requirement to transport goods from one place to another hasn’t changed since man invented the wheel and started carrying loads on a cart pulled along by oxen, that part won’t change.

Yes they can automate certain (un) loading procedures, they can fit automated trucks to transport pallets round a warehouse or even containers around a dock, but it will be donkeys years (where’s Dr Damon is he still testing advanced robotic vehicles in a country with presumably no internet connection :unamused: ) before automated vehicles will be capable of negotiating the roads of Britain, and by then the coming religious etc wars will have kicked off and half the country will be back in the middle ages, which will kick any megalomaniacs plans down the road another decade or three.

No young drivers reading the pessimistic lurid doom messages pedalled here should change their plans, if you want to make a career out of lorrying you will still be at it in your dotage, and it can if you work at it and play your cards right be both lucrative and as secure as any working class job out there.

Some people can’t cope in the industry, that’s another thing entirely, it’s not a job for snowflakes it never was and anyone who expects top money for a basic sat on your arse chauffering job of 9 hours doing sod all other than attending a steering wheel is going to be sorely disappointed at what pay is on offer for such mundane stuff any fool can do, but if you learn your trade and earn yourself a reputation for being reliable and capable you will never ever be out of work for more than a day or two.
My advice is to specialise within the industry, not only is the money better but if or when it comes times to change the chances are that your chosen speciality will lead onto the next one.

If not a secret what specialities you are talking about? Plant? Hiab? Moffet?ADR? Car transporters? Basically what would you specialize on if you’d have to start now?

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milesahead:

Juddian:
Lots of us have found our niche’s in the transport sector, and there’s no way on this earth that we’re being replaced by a machine.

Yes as Jimmy McNulty notes the transport sector changes, but the basic requirement to transport goods from one place to another hasn’t changed since man invented the wheel and started carrying loads on a cart pulled along by oxen, that part won’t change.

Yes they can automate certain (un) loading procedures, they can fit automated trucks to transport pallets round a warehouse or even containers around a dock, but it will be donkeys years (where’s Dr Damon is he still testing advanced robotic vehicles in a country with presumably no internet connection :unamused: ) before automated vehicles will be capable of negotiating the roads of Britain, and by then the coming religious etc wars will have kicked off and half the country will be back in the middle ages, which will kick any megalomaniacs plans down the road another decade or three.

No young drivers reading the pessimistic lurid doom messages pedalled here should change their plans, if you want to make a career out of lorrying you will still be at it in your dotage, and it can if you work at it and play your cards right be both lucrative and as secure as any working class job out there.

Some people can’t cope in the industry, that’s another thing entirely, it’s not a job for snowflakes it never was and anyone who expects top money for a basic sat on your arse chauffering job of 9 hours doing sod all other than attending a steering wheel is going to be sorely disappointed at what pay is on offer for such mundane stuff any fool can do, but if you learn your trade and earn yourself a reputation for being reliable and capable you will never ever be out of work for more than a day or two.
My advice is to specialise within the industry, not only is the money better but if or when it comes times to change the chances are that your chosen speciality will lead onto the next one.

If not a secret what specialities you are talking about? Plant? Hiab? Moffet?ADR? Car transporters? Basically what would you specialize on if you’d have to start now?

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If he told he’d have to kill you…

milesahead:

Juddian:

If not a secret what specialities you are talking about? Plant? Hiab? Moffet?ADR? Car transporters? Basically what would you specialize on if you’d have to start now?

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Any and all of those you mention, plus tankers of all descriptions.

Something where the driving is important, as in requires the ability not to hit things including trees bridges gate posts and get into places never designed for wagons, but where driving is but a side show compared to the competence and care that needs to be put into the purpose of the job, oh and bit of muck and bullets doesn’t go astray either :sunglasses:

You take care in the job that needs some concentration and nous not just attending the wheel, and you’ll never be out of work, and no bloody computer is going to be replacing you whilst you still want to do the job.
Find what you like doing though, we all like different parts of the job.

Even when autonomous wagons do come on stream, there’ll be countless jobs going rescuing the poxy things as they come to a standstill for any one of hundreds of electronic issues, or its a bit cold or snowing so the sodding thing runs out of power, let alone the security measures needed to protect the goods on board as the country finds itself heading towards what is coming.

the nodding donkey:

milesahead:

Juddian:
Lots of us have found our niche’s in the transport sector, and there’s no way on this earth that we’re being replaced by a machine.

Yes as Jimmy McNulty notes the transport sector changes, but the basic requirement to transport goods from one place to another hasn’t changed since man invented the wheel and started carrying loads on a cart pulled along by oxen, that part won’t change.

Yes they can automate certain (un) loading procedures, they can fit automated trucks to transport pallets round a warehouse or even containers around a dock, but it will be donkeys years (where’s Dr Damon is he still testing advanced robotic vehicles in a country with presumably no internet connection :unamused: ) before automated vehicles will be capable of negotiating the roads of Britain, and by then the coming religious etc wars will have kicked off and half the country will be back in the middle ages, which will kick any megalomaniacs plans down the road another decade or three.

No young drivers reading the pessimistic lurid doom messages pedalled here should change their plans, if you want to make a career out of lorrying you will still be at it in your dotage, and it can if you work at it and play your cards right be both lucrative and as secure as any working class job out there.

Some people can’t cope in the industry, that’s another thing entirely, it’s not a job for snowflakes it never was and anyone who expects top money for a basic sat on your arse chauffering job of 9 hours doing sod all other than attending a steering wheel is going to be sorely disappointed at what pay is on offer for such mundane stuff any fool can do, but if you learn your trade and earn yourself a reputation for being reliable and capable you will never ever be out of work for more than a day or two.
My advice is to specialise within the industry, not only is the money better but if or when it comes times to change the chances are that your chosen speciality will lead onto the next one.

If not a secret what specialities you are talking about? Plant? Hiab? Moffet?ADR? Car transporters? Basically what would you specialize on if you’d have to start now?

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If he told he’d have to kill you…

It’s done, someone must die! [emoji5]

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Work for a road haulage contractor :bulb:

Get a job where you get some respect And paid your worth the sooner it happens the better

Juddian:

milesahead:

Juddian:

If not a secret what specialities you are talking about? Plant? Hiab? Moffet?ADR? Car transporters? Basically what would you specialize on if you’d have to start now?

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Any and all of those you mention, plus tankers of all descriptions.

Something where the driving is important, as in requires the ability not to hit things including trees bridges gate posts and get into places never designed for wagons, but where driving is but a side show compared to the competence and care that needs to be put into the purpose of the job, oh and bit of muck and bullets doesn’t go astray either :sunglasses:

You take care in the job that needs some concentration and nous not just attending the wheel, and you’ll never be out of work, and no bloody computer is going to be replacing you whilst you still want to do the job.
Find what you like doing though, we all like different parts of the job.

Even when autonomous wagons do come on stream, there’ll be countless jobs going rescuing the poxy things as they come to a standstill for any one of hundreds of electronic issues, or its a bit cold or snowing so the sodding thing runs out of power, let alone the security measures needed to protect the goods on board as the country finds itself heading towards what is coming.

For some strange reason some specialized jobs are not so good paid, for example powered access.

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Bigtruck3:
Get a job where you get some respect And paid your worth the sooner it happens the better

I had one of these but what a lot of drivers don’t seem to realise is to gain respect you have to be respectful first.

Needless to say all drivers in that company were respectful and well rewarded for it.

Where as other places I worked there is no respect either way and everyone suffers.