What will you do once trucking is dead?

[grandpa]

eagerbeaver:

Grandpa:

ETS:
I personally believe trucking will become a dead or non-viable profession in the (relatively) near future, 10 maybe 15 years which means I’ll be 15-20 years away from retirement and with no useful job/skills. Obviously the world will have changed and what not, initially I was thinking HGV mechanic but by then trucks will be so different - possibly all electric, with swap-out modules and proprietary tech etc.

Transport planner I think will be a dead/dying profession as well because by that time AI should be advanced enough to be able to do the same.

I looked at some courses at OpenUniversity and holy macaroni, they want £3000+ per year (increasing each year in line with inflation) for a 6 year distance learning for a BA in Criminology where the expected annual salary is £20 000 - 24 000 LOL? No way I’m paying this much out of my own pocket, the Gov’t(s) better be setting aside some cash for us poor truckers of the future or tax heavily companies who want to use auto-trucks and use the proceeds for re-education. Lol, £3000 per year for a bunch of links to wikipedia and PDF books - f. that. The nerve of these pricks.

What will you do when/if truck driving is dead (as in, far fewer jobs than drivers and don’t say “oh it’s how it is already”) and you’re still a decade or more away from retirement?

There will always be some form of road transport and people like dieseldog who probably can’t do anything else driving them, by what will then be a minimum wage.
To get into any form of management these days you need a degree (yes they’re expensive), but if you’re young enough look to the future. Drug addiction counsellor, prison officer … Look ahead and plan for what will still be needed in twenty years’ time. In a few years’ time and probably less than ten, if a foreigner can do what you can now, they’ll be doing it.

Got to pull you up on this post Gramps.

You say DD cannot do anything else driving them. Legend has it that he can send a text whilst rolling a ■■■ on the steering wheel whilst watching a laptop on his table. And then still makes the boat.

However, more than that he makes me laugh. And you don’t. You can’t get a truck driving job, we get it. You’ve got to move on pal. As for lorry driving I will celebrate when it’s dead because it is full of spineless and weak people.

Sssh, DD is really a millionaire in disguise! I can get the jobs, I get offers every day and especially now around Christmas, we all do, it’s just that I don’t want the rubbish I know is being offered and I suspect many others don’t either, which is why there’s so much being offered. It’s a choice, we take or leave it. I chose to leave it and as there’s an alternative I’ll take it. It really is as simple as that? I’m quite happy to be doing something else and reading everyone complaining about what the job has become. I’ll wait to see what happens and if it gets better I’ll jump back into it.

[commonrail]

I’ll retire

[jimmy_mcnulty]

Grandpa:
There will always be some form of road transport and people like dieseldog who probably can’t do anything else driving them, by what will then be a minimum wage.
To get into any form of management these days you need a degree (yes they’re expensive), but if you’re young enough look to the future. Drug addiction counsellor, prison officer … Look ahead and plan for what will still be needed in twenty years’ time. In a few years’ time and probably less than ten, if a foreigner can do what you can now, they’ll be doing it.

6 out of 10 Grandpa you can do better.

Have you picked the job drug addiction councillor because one has just been stabbed by a terrorist?

Prison Officer? Someone very close to me does that for a job, she is one of the lucky ones. But over the course of 5 years we have had various trips to hospital, time off work to recover following incidents that have either physically or mentally taken their toll. Long long hours, poor poor money and constant danger either from your inmates or your colleagues. Again shes lucky that she is now a couple of ranks up the chain and away from that but not everyone is so lucky in that job.

Maybe I’m giving you a little bit too much credit for picking those two jobs, maybe you aren’t on a wind up, I’d sooner drive a truck every day of the week.

Right so the second bit of your post: well I spent a fairly long time before going driving full time in mainly Warehouse Management. I have 2 half degrees (which basically means I don’t have a degree) the majority of the people I worked alongside didn’t have degrees. Ironically a lot of the Polish Warehouse Operatives are degreed up to the eyeballs.

A long story short: I now drive a truck full time. I earn slightly more money, I have a better quality of life.

[jakethesnake]

Of course you’re a successful businessman, it’s why you spend so much time on a forum jumping around threads criticizing others with nothing else to say about anything. I wish I had a pound for every load of nonsense I’ve heard over the years. Ten a penny dieseldog – yawn.

From what I have read in the past you make so much sense Grandpa.

[grandpa]

Jimmy McNulty:

Grandpa:
There will always be some form of road transport and people like dieseldog who probably can’t do anything else driving them, by what will then be a minimum wage.
To get into any form of management these days you need a degree (yes they’re expensive), but if you’re young enough look to the future. Drug addiction counsellor, prison officer … Look ahead and plan for what will still be needed in twenty years’ time. In a few years’ time and probably less than ten, if a foreigner can do what you can now, they’ll be doing it.

6 out of 10 Grandpa you can do better.

Have you picked the job drug addiction councillor because one has just been stabbed by a terrorist?

Prison Officer? Someone very close to me does that for a job, she is one of the lucky ones. But over the course of 5 years we have had various trips to hospital, time off work to recover following incidents that have either physically or mentally taken their toll. Long long hours, poor poor money and constant danger either from your inmates or your colleagues. Again shes lucky that she is now a couple of ranks up the chain and away from that but not everyone is so lucky in that job.

Maybe I’m giving you a little bit too much credit for picking those two jobs, maybe you aren’t on a wind up, I’d sooner drive a truck every day of the week.

Right so the second bit of your post: well I spent a fairly long time before going driving full time in mainly Warehouse Management. I have 2 half degrees (which basically means I don’t have a degree) the majority of the people I worked alongside didn’t have degrees. Ironically a lot of the Polish Warehouse Operatives are degreed up to the eyeballs.

A long story short: I now drive a truck full time. I earn slightly more money, I have a better quality of life.

I’m not a drugs counsellor. The two jobs were simply an example and to say that there is other work out there. It’s also true to say that many foreigners are educated, but they lack the language skills.

I’m not sure what you mean by ‘2 half degrees’, but I assume you dropped out before completion. I’m nearly 65 and have three full degrees, B.Sc., BA (Hons) and an MA. There’s nothing I can do with them as no local authority is going to fund me at my age. I slipped back into what I previously did and am now having to come to grips with the new technology that’s crept in, difficult but it can be done.

For those that want to drive a truck in a declining industry there’s nothing wrong with that, but it doesn’t explain why many are going elsewhere. Of course, the money is there, but I haven’t heard anyone else saying they have a good quality of life driving in today’s industry. If they have, that’s great, but let’s see how they get on in their 60s. I’m simply saying that for those who have half a brain there are alternatives and we needn’t be stuck in one career forever. Just as we move from one job to another in logistics, we can also move out of it into another.

[grandpa]

jakethesnake:
Of course you’re a successful businessman, it’s why you spend so much time on a forum jumping around threads criticizing others with nothing else to say about anything. I wish I had a pound for every load of nonsense I’ve heard over the years. Ten a penny dieseldog – yawn.

From what I have read in the past you make so much sense Grandpa.

Given the amount of sarcasm on the threads, I’m unsure how to take that.

[robroy]

I’m the wrong wrong wrong side of 50 to bother my arse about it.
I feel no different whatsoever to when I was mid thirties, (maybe still think in my head I am in some of the situations I find myself in ) and I’m still thinking I have 25 years left in the job in my mind ,… but then reality suddenly kicks in and I realise I’ll have about 10 or so depending if I still feel as I do now, and still fit enough, or subject to a big lottery win.

So basically I can’t see anything changing in that time 10 or so years time scale, nor even any dramatic change where drivers are no longer needed before 2035 at a guess.
So by then I’ll be retired on a beach with a much younger blonde sat either side of me (not really, my lovely blonde wife will do ) to even bother my arse about future trucking.

[dieseldog999]

Grandpa:

dieseldog999:

Grandpa:

ETS:
I personally believe trucking will become a dead or non-viable profession in the (relatively) near future, 10 maybe 15 years which means I’ll be 15-20 years away from retirement and with no useful job/skills. Obviously the world will have changed and what not, initially I was thinking HGV mechanic but by then trucks will be so different - possibly all electric, with swap-out modules and proprietary tech etc.

Transport planner I think will be a dead/dying profession as well because by that time AI should be advanced enough to be able to do the same.

I looked at some courses at OpenUniversity and holy macaroni, they want £3000+ per year (increasing each year in line with inflation) for a 6 year distance learning for a BA in Criminology where the expected annual salary is £20 000 - 24 000 LOL? No way I’m paying this much out of my own pocket, the Gov’t(s) better be setting aside some cash for us poor truckers of the future or tax heavily companies who want to use auto-trucks and use the proceeds for re-education. Lol, £3000 per year for a bunch of links to wikipedia and PDF books - f. that. The nerve of these pricks.

What will you do when/if truck driving is dead (as in, far fewer jobs than drivers and don’t say “oh it’s how it is already”) and you’re still a decade or more away from retirement?

There will always be some form of road transport and people like dieseldog who probably can’t do anything else driving them, by what will then be a minimum wage.
To get into any form of management these days you need a degree (yes they’re expensive), but if you’re young enough look to the future. Drug addiction counsellor, prison officer … Look ahead and plan for what will still be needed in twenty years’ time. In a few years’ time and probably less than ten, if a foreigner can do what you can now, they’ll be doing it.

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i just love how you use the word probably when you actually cant google how successful a businessman ive been over previous years.
ignorance is bliss.

Of course you’re a successful businessman, it’s why you spend so much time on a forum jumping around threads criticizing others with nothing else to say about anything. I wish I had a pound for every load of nonsense I’ve heard over the years. Ten a penny dieseldog – yawn.

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if you had a pound for every googled load of posted pish youve read in here in your surprisingly short trucknet life as grandpa, then to be a millionaire all you would need to do is read back on yours and jakethesnakes posts along with carryfast and such and you would be rolling in it with no need to letting employment be a distant dream for a man of your stature.

[grandpa]

if you had a pound for every googled load of posted pish youve read in here in your surprisingly short trucknet life as grandpa, then to be a millionaire all you would need to do is read back on yours and jakethesnakes posts along with carryfast and such and you would be rolling in it with no need to letting employment be a distant dream for a man of your stature.

I don’t even want to debate you over it DD. You’ve got nothing to say on topics, just posters. There’s a DD on every forum in the world and they’re all millionaires, successful businessmen and the font of all knowledge. I could teach you the correct form of English grammar though, including capitalized letters in a sentence start and the proper use of commas, full stops … Just another sad deadbeat DD trying to come across as something you’re not and never were. I’ll let you rattle on and your posts will provide the proof to others.

[hanson]

the maoster:
I’ve always dreamt of being one of them guys who spins the waltzers around when the pretty young things climb aboard. If trucking dies then I’m definitely gonna retrain.

You gotta dream big young man!

That would be a wise choice i would to go back and do that all again and it is a brilliant life

[robroy]

Grandpa:

if you had a pound for every googled load of posted pish youve read in here in your surprisingly short trucknet life as grandpa, then to be a millionaire all you would need to do is read back on yours and jakethesnakes posts along with carryfast and such and you would be rolling in it with no need to letting employment be a distant dream for a man of your stature.

I don’t even want to debate you over it DD. You’ve got nothing to say on topics, just posters. There’s a DD on every forum in the world and they’re all millionaires, successful businessmen and the font of all knowledge. I could teach you the correct form of English grammar though, including capitalized letters in a sentence start and the proper use of commas, full stops … Just another sad deadbeat DD trying to come across as something you’re not and never were. I’ll let you rattle on and your posts will provide the proof to others.

Wow !

[jakethesnake]

Grandpa:

jakethesnake:
Of course you’re a successful businessman, it’s why you spend so much time on a forum jumping around threads criticizing others with nothing else to say about anything. I wish I had a pound for every load of nonsense I’ve heard over the years. Ten a penny dieseldog – yawn.

From what I have read in the past you make so much sense Grandpa.

Given the amount of sarcasm on the threads, I’m unsure how to take that.

I agree with you, I make you right. I’m not being sarcastic this time.

[jakethesnake]

That’s a great gif RR.

[dieseldog999]

Grandpa:

if you had a pound for every googled load of posted pish youve read in here in your surprisingly short trucknet life as grandpa, then to be a millionaire all you would need to do is read back on yours and jakethesnakes posts along with carryfast and such and you would be rolling in it with no need to letting employment be a distant dream for a man of your stature.

I don’t even want to debate you over it DD. You’ve got nothing to say on topics, just posters. There’s a DD on every forum in the world and they’re all millionaires, successful businessmen and the font of all knowledge. I could teach you the correct form of English grammar though, including capitalized letters in a sentence start and the proper use of commas, full stops … Just another sad deadbeat DD trying to come across as something you’re not and never were. I’ll let you rattle on and your posts will provide the proof to others.

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its not a debate,im just stating facts.
others opinions of yours and the other few similar posters say it all…
why would i bother picking caps when typing on a laptop in here,its not exactly anything of importance rattling on in here,or are the joined up letters a struggle for you?
isnt it funny though how its only yourself and another few posters have picked up on the same lack of caps?
they would be the same one/ones that would be known for the same posting style of pish as yourself.
if you read back,then you will see that ive plenty to say on topics,as well as certain posters similar or also like yourself who just flog away with trolling pish,but dream on and keep flogging and we can await jakethesnake to compliment you again.

ps,
i didnt have long to wait as he beat me to it and has predictably posted twice as i typed this…addictive stuff sofar robroy??

[jakethesnake]

But your facts are wrong DD.

[trickydick]

HGV mech has got to the safest job going, the speed at which drivers damage them means there is always plenty of work!

[dieseldog999]

jakethesnake:
But your facts are wrong DD.

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according to you.at which point makes your post meaningless.

[jimmy_mcnulty]

Grandpa:

Jimmy McNulty:

Grandpa:
There will always be some form of road transport and people like dieseldog who probably can’t do anything else driving them, by what will then be a minimum wage.
To get into any form of management these days you need a degree (yes they’re expensive), but if you’re young enough look to the future. Drug addiction counsellor, prison officer … Look ahead and plan for what will still be needed in twenty years’ time. In a few years’ time and probably less than ten, if a foreigner can do what you can now, they’ll be doing it.

6 out of 10 Grandpa you can do better.

Have you picked the job drug addiction councillor because one has just been stabbed by a terrorist?

Prison Officer? Someone very close to me does that for a job, she is one of the lucky ones. But over the course of 5 years we have had various trips to hospital, time off work to recover following incidents that have either physically or mentally taken their toll. Long long hours, poor poor money and constant danger either from your inmates or your colleagues. Again shes lucky that she is now a couple of ranks up the chain and away from that but not everyone is so lucky in that job.

Maybe I’m giving you a little bit too much credit for picking those two jobs, maybe you aren’t on a wind up, I’d sooner drive a truck every day of the week.

Right so the second bit of your post: well I spent a fairly long time before going driving full time in mainly Warehouse Management. I have 2 half degrees (which basically means I don’t have a degree) the majority of the people I worked alongside didn’t have degrees. Ironically a lot of the Polish Warehouse Operatives are degreed up to the eyeballs.

A long story short: I now drive a truck full time. I earn slightly more money, I have a better quality of life.

I’m not a drugs counsellor. The two jobs were simply an example and to say that there is other work out there. It’s also true to say that many foreigners are educated, but they lack the language skills.

I’m not sure what you mean by ‘2 half degrees’, but I assume you dropped out before completion. I’m nearly 65 and have three full degrees, B.Sc., BA (Hons) and an MA. There’s nothing I can do with them as no local authority is going to fund me at my age. I slipped back into what I previously did and am now having to come to grips with the new technology that’s crept in, difficult but it can be done.

For those that want to drive a truck in a declining industry there’s nothing wrong with that, but it doesn’t explain why many are going elsewhere. Of course, the money is there, but I haven’t heard anyone else saying they have a good quality of life driving in today’s industry. If they have, that’s great, but let’s see how they get on in their 60s. I’m simply saying that for those who have half a brain there are alternatives and we needn’t be stuck in one career forever. Just as we move from one job to another in logistics, we can also move out of it into another.

Correct. Started one and due to life circumstances changing couldn’t complete it. Then made the same mistake again. However I have wanted to drive trucks since I was young and it’s in the family so I would have been here regardless.

Some of us with half a brain are happy with their lot having experienced a number of industries and seeing that the grass isn’t greener, its grass - it suits some of us that like driving, music/sports/current affairs, have a low tolerance of ■■■■■ and don’t like being stuck with the same view.

The road transport industry is in no way a declining industry. It’s a changing industry but it’s going nowhere and if anything its slowly growing.

Ps I know drivers in their 70’s, doing ‘the easiest driving jobs they have ever had’ with all the financial means to retire but no intention.

I am well aware that it isn’t all sweetness and Rose’s in transport but it’s as good or as bad as you want to make it. If you aren’t driving anymore, hate it so much and can’t bring anything other than negativity here then maybe it’s time to log and ■■■■ off to these other forums you frequent

[wide-load85]

jakethesnake:

rob22888:

wide-load85:
I get 10-15ft wide, fragile loads down country roads and into tight spaces with inches to spare each side… doubt a robot truck is going to be able to do that so I’m safe. Its the rdc to rdc gang that are screwed

Your probably safer than most, but never underestimate what can be done with technology. It will be and has been the downfall of many.

The most immediate threat really is not complete automation of the job, but the more ‘autopilot’ and assistance tech that gets crammed into vehicles ultimately dumbing the job down & making it harder for drivers to demand a decent wage.

I would not bet on that when you see how fast technology is moving. Its absolutely amazing what robots can do and some things far more complicated than driving.
There is no doubt that in the future everything will be more efficient and accident free when drivers become something else.

Fair enough, when a robot truck can not only deliver my loads in one piece, without a mark on it, but then get into site around any obstacles with up to 12ft rear overhang, remove its 8 ratchet straps, jack the load up, remove support blocks, pull out 30ft ramps, block under ramps (leaving them at just the right angle blocked according to ground conditions/obstructions nearby/available room as no two tip/loading setups are the same) winch the load off then pack it all away and get a signature off the customer I’ll happily find something else to do. Best of luck to the machine

[grandpa]

jakethesnake:
But your facts are wrong DD.

I’m not a grammar ■■■■, but I can tell when someone knows nothing of just about everything. The way it’s written and avoiding the subject usually gives it away. Keyboard warriors, they’re everywhere. Politics surely comes into it and the thread itself is a clue that people are worried for various reasons. For people who can’t see the decline it’s going to be even more of a problem, so why not mention it? We few picked up not only on DDs lack of content, but the method of writing, which at best is childlike. I’d rather stick to the topic, but DD reduces it to posters. It’s just the way it is. I jOin in Andd smile But don’t take him tu seriousky.