CookieMonster:
Home delivery drivers, HIAB, bin lorries, tankers, general haulage, ADR and many other driving sectors could not function without a person in the cab, and will not be able to within the foreseeable future
Okay, this bin collector needs a driver, but that was back in 2009. It’s not hard to see how the system could be upgraded to no driver once driverless trucks become reality. Bin collection would be ideal because they follow pre-determined routes.
And there’s me thinking my job was safe lol Although if we were to use that on our domestic round we’d probably be finished at midnight every day… A lot of bins are down some pretty tight places to reverse in and plenty of ‘assisted collections’ which would still need human involvement I feel. But then again it’s scary how quickly technology is advancing.
ETS:
I looked at some courses at OpenUniversity and holy macaroni, they want £3000+ per year (increasing each year in line with inflation) for a 6 year distance learning for a BA in Criminology where the expected annual salary is £20 000 - 24 000 LOL? No way I’m paying this much out of my own pocket
The amount of time we see on the forum that people spend 3k on getting a truck license and it’s expensive. Get it and you should be on 30k within 2 years, possibly a lot more. It really is not a lot of money to shell out. Plenty of university grads doing rubbish jobs having done a useless degree earning far less than a trucker and even worse, stuck in a cubicle all day with a level of monitoring that makes inward facing cameras a mon issue.
CookieMonster:
Home delivery drivers, HIAB, bin lorries, tankers, general haulage, ADR and many other driving sectors could not function without a person in the cab, and will not be able to within the foreseeable future
Okay, this bin collector needs a driver, but that was back in 2009. It’s not hard to see how the system could be upgraded to no driver once driverless trucks become reality. Bin collection would be ideal because they follow pre-determined routes.
And there’s me thinking my job was safe lol Although if we were to use that on our domestic round we’d probably be finished at midnight every day… A lot of bins are down some pretty tight places to reverse in and plenty of ‘assisted collections’ which would still need human involvement I feel. But then again it’s scary how quickly technology is advancing.
The days of individual refuse bins for individual properties have to be numbered, it is a silly idea and the functionality of it is questionable. Larger trash bins at a central point have to be the way forward, much like they do in more advanced countries.
ETS:
I personally believe trucking will become a dead or non-viable profession in the (relatively) near future, 10 maybe 15 years which means I’ll be 15-20 years away from retirement and with no useful job/skills. Obviously the world will have changed and what not, initially I was thinking HGV mechanic but by then trucks will be so different - possibly all electric, with swap-out modules and proprietary tech etc.
Transport planner I think will be a dead/dying profession as well because by that time AI should be advanced enough to be able to do the same.
I looked at some courses at OpenUniversity and holy macaroni, they want £3000+ per year (increasing each year in line with inflation) for a 6 year distance learning for a BA in Criminology where the expected annual salary is £20 000 - 24 000 LOL? No way I’m paying this much out of my own pocket, the Gov’t(s) better be setting aside some cash for us poor truckers of the future or tax heavily companies who want to use auto-trucks and use the proceeds for re-education. Lol, £3000 per year for a bunch of links to wikipedia and PDF books - f. that. The nerve of these pricks.
What will you do when/if truck driving is dead (as in, far fewer jobs than drivers and don’t say “oh it’s how it is already”) and you’re still a decade or more away from retirement?
There will always be some form of road transport and people like dieseldog who probably can’t do anything else driving them, by what will then be a minimum wage.
To get into any form of management these days you need a degree (yes they’re expensive), but if you’re young enough look to the future. Drug addiction counsellor, prison officer … Look ahead and plan for what will still be needed in twenty years’ time. In a few years’ time and probably less than ten, if a foreigner can do what you can now, they’ll be doing it.
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i just love how you use the word probably when you actually cant google how successful a businessman ive been over previous years.
ignorance is bliss.
Somehow I cannot see a robot guide my load of 11ft wide portacabin down a country lane or the middle of London AND THEN get itself unstuck out of the mud and slop on a building site AND THEN proceed to unload itself via its HIAB whilst dealing with paddy navvies.
My job will be safe!
Just as when downturns hit, those in this industry who can do the job well don’t find themselves out of work for more than a couple of days at a time, there will always be a need for skilled drivers who take care, goods have always needed to be transported and they always will, some of the more basic repetitive jobs might get gradually more automated but natural wastage will sieve those out, there won’t suddenly be hundreds of thousands of lorry drivers chucked on the scrap heap on a Christmas (winter festival by law by then ) Eve because some brain box has invented teleportation.
The job will change as the country turns gradually into an increasingly violent hell hole (for those less equal than others) over the next few decades, job requirements and needs and skills will change, but there will always be a transport/carting industry with a constant demand for those utterly reliable types with nous and skill.
The days of individual refuse bins for individual properties have to be numbered, it is a silly idea and the functionality of it is questionable. Larger trash bins at a central point have to be the way forward, much like they do in more advanced countries.
This is a valid point. Our villa in Spain has communal rubbish bins a short way down the road. You have to walk to the bins to dispose of your household waste. Then during the night a bin wagon comes around to empty the bins.
I can see that being automated.
I think many people who seem to gloat everytime truck automation is mentioned should be watching the advancement in automation effecting their own jobs, and it’s not just unskilled manual work, many highly paid workers risk being automated out of their jobs before we see fleets of genuine level 5 automated trucks.
How this will effect society in general and those people who have spent many years training no doubt racking up considerable debt doing so, in particular seems to be ignored.
ETS:
I personally believe trucking will become a dead or non-viable profession in the (relatively) near future, 10 maybe 15 years which means I’ll be 15-20 years away from retirement and with no useful job/skills. Obviously the world will have changed and what not, initially I was thinking HGV mechanic but by then trucks will be so different - possibly all electric, with swap-out modules and proprietary tech etc.
Transport planner I think will be a dead/dying profession as well because by that time AI should be advanced enough to be able to do the same.
I looked at some courses at OpenUniversity and holy macaroni, they want £3000+ per year (increasing each year in line with inflation) for a 6 year distance learning for a BA in Criminology where the expected annual salary is £20 000 - 24 000 LOL? No way I’m paying this much out of my own pocket, the Gov’t(s) better be setting aside some cash for us poor truckers of the future or tax heavily companies who want to use auto-trucks and use the proceeds for re-education. Lol, £3000 per year for a bunch of links to wikipedia and PDF books - f. that. The nerve of these pricks.
What will you do when/if truck driving is dead (as in, far fewer jobs than drivers and don’t say “oh it’s how it is already”) and you’re still a decade or more away from retirement?
There will always be some form of road transport and people like dieseldog who probably can’t do anything else driving them, by what will then be a minimum wage.
To get into any form of management these days you need a degree (yes they’re expensive), but if you’re young enough look to the future. Drug addiction counsellor, prison officer … Look ahead and plan for what will still be needed in twenty years’ time. In a few years’ time and probably less than ten, if a foreigner can do what you can now, they’ll be doing it.
Got to pull you up on this post Gramps.
You say DD cannot do anything else driving them. Legend has it that he can send a text whilst rolling a ■■■ on the steering wheel whilst watching a laptop on his table. And then still makes the boat.
However, more than that he makes me laugh. And you don’t. You can’t get a truck driving job, we get it. You’ve got to move on pal. As for lorry driving I will celebrate when it’s dead because it is full of spineless and weak people.
I can’t wait to watch a robot navigate onto a muddy building site after having to work out where the hell the site actually is because the address is useless then dismount the moffett, deliver the load to an even muddier compound after dealing with a grumpy telehandler driver then close it all up, re-mount the moffett and get turned round in a space way too small and get off the site.
If that happens in my lifetime I’ll literally eat my pants.
nomiS36:
I can’t wait to watch a robot navigate onto a muddy building site after having to work out where the hell the site actually is because the address is useless then dismount the moffett, deliver the load to an even muddier compound after dealing with a grumpy telehandler driver then close it all up, re-mount the moffett and get turned round in a space way too small and get off the site.
If that happens in my lifetime I’ll literally eat my pants.
You may just have to eat them. Stop thinking like a lorry driver and read the progress of automation, AI and camera sensors and much more. Read Muckles post as he seems to be more aware of what’s going on than most.
nomiS36:
I can’t wait to watch a robot navigate onto a muddy building site after having to work out where the hell the site actually is because the address is useless then dismount the moffett, deliver the load to an even muddier compound after dealing with a grumpy telehandler driver then close it all up, re-mount the moffett and get turned round in a space way too small and get off the site.
If that happens in my lifetime I’ll literally eat my pants.
You may just have to eat them. Stop thinking like a lorry driver and read the progress of automation, AI and camera sensors and much more. Read Muckles post as he seems to be more aware of what’s going on than most.
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more utter drivvle…by the time the m6 is full of a convoy of automated trucks,then there wont be any drivers left as we will all have died due to global warming…theres another ex trampy hot topic to dissect…
My doubts about the effectiveness of autonomous trucks is based on the fact that some of them will be in the hands of companies whose reaction to brake defects is to make the horn louder!
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I would hope in 15 years to be sat sitting in a villa somewhere, and basically I wouldn’t care a fooook,
Same as that really, I have six years left to serve and then I’ll be free of it. I’m sure autonomous trucks will be a thing, just not in that timescale.
ETS:
I personally believe trucking will become a dead or non-viable profession in the (relatively) near future, 10 maybe 15 years which means I’ll be 15-20 years away from retirement and with no useful job/skills. Obviously the world will have changed and what not, initially I was thinking HGV mechanic but by then trucks will be so different - possibly all electric, with swap-out modules and proprietary tech etc.
Transport planner I think will be a dead/dying profession as well because by that time AI should be advanced enough to be able to do the same.
I looked at some courses at OpenUniversity and holy macaroni, they want £3000+ per year (increasing each year in line with inflation) for a 6 year distance learning for a BA in Criminology where the expected annual salary is £20 000 - 24 000 LOL? No way I’m paying this much out of my own pocket, the Gov’t(s) better be setting aside some cash for us poor truckers of the future or tax heavily companies who want to use auto-trucks and use the proceeds for re-education. Lol, £3000 per year for a bunch of links to wikipedia and PDF books - f. that. The nerve of these pricks.
What will you do when/if truck driving is dead (as in, far fewer jobs than drivers and don’t say “oh it’s how it is already”) and you’re still a decade or more away from retirement?
There will always be some form of road transport and people like dieseldog who probably can’t do anything else driving them, by what will then be a minimum wage.
To get into any form of management these days you need a degree (yes they’re expensive), but if you’re young enough look to the future. Drug addiction counsellor, prison officer … Look ahead and plan for what will still be needed in twenty years’ time. In a few years’ time and probably less than ten, if a foreigner can do what you can now, they’ll be doing it.
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i just love how you use the word probably when you actually cant google how successful a businessman ive been over previous years.
ignorance is bliss.
Of course you’re a successful businessman, it’s why you spend so much time on a forum jumping around threads criticizing others with nothing else to say about anything. I wish I had a pound for every load of nonsense I’ve heard over the years. Ten a penny dieseldog – yawn.
) Eve because some brain box has invented teleportation.
