A four wheeled Seddon tanker.It had an AEC 505 engine-great.Went like the clappers. The “brakes” were those wretched wedge type and sometimes the wedge pulled right through,making life a bit worrisome.They had to be adjusted every day.A pain.900x20. 
mizzo:
3300John:
joeshell:
Volvo F88,utter crap
Sudden Accident 200 series
Mercedes AxorHiya…don’t knock joeshell… the 88’s was a step in the right direction but far from a good machine
its just as everything was not so good…no one will have a good word to say about the wipers on
a 88…the bunk was only their it was not brill. and the brakes… get out of a 88 and into a foden
you’d press the brake and go through the screen…I agree the’re a icon in trucking but they had faults.
JohnI drove a couple of 88’s in the late 70’s but my usual motor was a Borderer (180’s then moved up to 220 ■■■■■■■■■ what I would have liked was the 88 cab on the ■■■■■■■ Borderer, I agree with 3300John, the 88 brakes used to put the fear of God up me and the wipers were a joke, but I have never disliked anything as much as Mercs.
hiya mizzo…go back a few years about to 1978 there was a firm from south wales called Carswells who run tinplate into crown cork at southall and one lorriy was a 4x2 atki with a 220 ■■■■■■■ fuller gearbox and a 88 cab…now that would have made your day…you need to speak to pete359 on the south wales thread and he may tell you more about the lorry
John
buf:
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I started out on a 400 then I got a 301 what stone age rubbish! and I come from Walton-le-Dale…
I got lucky and got demoted to a Leyland drop sided four wheeler the best thing that happened in my career.
W
Most 'orrible; Leyland Boxer for East Midlands Gas in Nottingham. Mandraulic steering, more power in the starter motor than the engine.
Roughest old heap; any Bedford TK.
Biggest disappointment; the first Ford Cargo I ever drove, a 7.5 flatbed for Bampton Packaging. No PAS again, could never get the seat comfortable, and it had the four-speed box with a gap so wide between third and top you had to really slog it down to tickover up a hill else you’d hit the limiter when you dropped a cog. Absolute pig to drive into a low winter sun as well. For all the D-series faults, the smaller ones were far better than the early Cargo. To be fair, I had a 1718 with a range-change a couple of years later and that wasn’t bad at all.
worst motor I have ever driven (and I’ve driven a lot of crap over the years) was the awful BMC with the threeprenny bit shaped safety cab.
A 6 wheel Sentinal tipper. re engined with a Gardner 6LW and a low geared diff. 28mph flat out.
3 load a day, Walton pit at Wakefield to Harrogate Gas works. I still have nightmares.
I don’t think the diff enjoyed it when the thing was rigged for “silent running” 
down the hill past Harewood House.
1961, I was only a young fella then. The only good thing about the job was we were never short of good coal at home.
I don’t think any truck manufacture is free of fault when it comes to allying underpowered engines at certain tonnages. Anything with a poor weight/power configuration gets the thumbs down from me, regardless of how good the cab/ride is or isn’t. It’s not just limited to the poor old Cargo, TK or Leyland’s of the day etc, etc. Volvo’s early FL’s were awful imo, poor seating, extremely bad dash layout etc, etc. I had an FL7 8-legger with 243 bhp running at 32 tons with an 8 speed range change - I mean come on!!. Even my previous F731 had a 16 speed box in it and was far better.
Scania’s 3-Series was not without fault, the brakes on some of the rigids (especially the 8 wheeler) were scary to say the least and I positively hate the boxy ride of the 1995> Scanny’s. Renault Magnum - dreadful oversized thing, that I was always embarrased to get into and a horrible ride imo! I was never a fan of the early Mercedes EPS gearbox, as it just had a mind of it’s own and would randomly deselect or downshift (scary!!). That said I loved the early Merc cabs and still do!
In terms of a rigid up to say 18 tons, the later 2nd generation Iveco-Cargo was chronically overhyped and I never liked them anywhere near as much as the 1st generation Ford in terms of ride, overall vision and general layout (IMO!). That ridiculous way of allying the windscreen wiper stalk and indicator stalk always meant you turned the wipers on along with, or instead of the indicators. Steering and general ride always seemed harsher compared to the old Cargo, though the engines were a lot more livelier and powerful compared to those ridiculously engined earlier versions like the 0609, 1713, 1715, 2417 etc etc (what were Ford on!). As for Daf, I’ve pretty much liked all the examples I’ve driven, but I do recall a 2300 daycab I used to have regularly with Somerfield years ago, gearshift/ratio was a little too long and lazy for my liking and made the truck chronically underperform.
None, because they all gave me valuable experience. Some were a bit rough, but at least I can say I worked my way up.
Ilona
Anything from the BMC range or a Thames Trader.
An ERF (the one before the “A” Series) with a 5 cylinder Gardner Engine.We used to do Liverpool regularly with these.On the M1/M6,they were a source of embarrassment,coupled with the right leg trying to keep the throttle open. 900x20. 
Any scanny I’ve driven,
Merc Kaxor,
Volvo fl10 8 legger
gogzy:
Any scanny I’ve driven,
Merc Kaxor,
Volvo fl10 8 legger
Yeah your spot on with all of those.
I never minded driving any of them,it was good to be paid to drive around the different places.
Dave the Renegade:
I never minded driving any of them,it was good to be paid to drive around the different places.
The two previous posts would appear to be by someone on a different planet! they obviously must be still “wet behind the ears” now the post prior to those two about the ERF,now that is quite understandable! Thats the the motor those two should have done a few weeks on then they would appreciate the “modern” motors,I’m sure! Cheers Dennis.
what he said, there are no bad trucks nowadays, only ones that are not as good.
Bewick:
Dave the Renegade:
I never minded driving any of them,it was good to be paid to drive around the different places.The two previous posts would appear to be by someone on a different planet! they obviously must be still “wet behind the ears” now the post prior to those two about the ERF,now that is quite understandable! Thats the the motor those two should have done a few weeks on then they would appreciate the “modern” motors,I’m sure! Cheers Dennis.
Don’t give me that wet behind the ears pish ffs, scannys are ■■■■ to drive, merc Kaxor well if I’d ever driven one then I’d understand and the fl10 was usually way underpowered to get anywhere.
I also learnt to drive in a ropey old ERF with a ■■■■■■ gearbox and I loved driving the ■■■■ thing
MInd you you’d be jealous of what I’m driving now
I must admit I liked the little fl10 eight wheeler low cab was great around London for visibility and even though ground clearance wasn’t great they still used to plough on through the tip.
I also used to like that melodic rumble the engine made.
Drove an fl12 eight wheel tipper and that could really march on.
I have to agree about the axor they are ■■■■. Which is surprising as the actros is a great truck.
Out of anything on sale now I’d say daf have to be the most overated truck in everyclass. The only good thing is the bed.
swtd totton seddon 401 1990 500 take home loved it then got divorced , aha nothing lasts 
gogzy:
Bewick:
Dave the Renegade:
I never minded driving any of them,it was good to be paid to drive around the different places.The two previous posts would appear to be by someone on a different planet! they obviously must be still “wet behind the ears” now the post prior to those two about the ERF,now that is quite understandable! Thats the the motor those two should have done a few weeks on then they would appreciate the “modern” motors,I’m sure! Cheers Dennis.
Don’t give me that wet behind the ears pish ffs, scannys are [zb] to drive, merc Kaxor well if I’d ever driven one then I’d understand and the fl10 was usually way underpowered to get anywhere.
I also learnt to drive in a ropey old ERF with a [zb] gearbox and I loved driving the ■■■■ thing
MInd you you’d be jealous of what I’m driving now
Definitely wouldn’t be jealous “gogzy” unless ,of course,you were driving a flock of sheep with a pair of cur dogs! now that really does take skill and I would take my hat off to you! Cheers Bewick.
A Seddon Atkinson 200 rigid had arse about face gearchange and virtually no lock on the steering had to shunt many times to get round tight corners!
Also a K100 Kenworth I test drove after it had just been imported went fairly well empty but rattled and banged and had tiny mirrors!!!