Here’s more on the video
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Kin ell 
. Might be his ex Mrs..
Ironic post title “What the heck was he doing?” When so many posters are opposed to in cab cameras!!!
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Deserves all he got.
Awful driving.
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So what did he get then, police link doesn’t work here?
Try this.
https://www.cheshire.police.uk/news/cheshire/news/articles/2025/6/hgv-driver-sentenced-after-colliding-with-pedestrian-in-congleton/
Anyway, he was looking at/adjusting his satnav. Mounted the pavement and struck the pedestrian. Fortunately not seriously hurt.
18 month ban, extended retest after it, plus a suspended prison sentence. He better be a good boy for the next year.
Yep,.and I still am.
Why should drivers who can actually ‘‘drive’’ a truck competently have to put up with all that sh for those who can not.
You can not legislate for idiocy and incompetence.
All a camera would show us his gormless face…assuming he actually noticed he had hit her.
Bang to rights I reckon,.camera or not…Unless of course he got the most cleverest brief in the country that would convince a court the woman was to blsme.
We are all guilty of lapses of concentration, but he should be well thankful she did not die.
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So let prove it, the same as we could have proved the driver was having a medical episode rather than being vilified. Same outcome but quite different cause.
Used correctly cameras are the same as tachos were originally - gated till they started helping prove drivers versions 
Absolutely.
In cab cameras are a tool.
If only used when incidents occur, and not as way of keeping a driver’s nose to the grindstone, they are a good thing.
It is not the tool that is the problem, it is the use it is put to.
Good companies will not abuse them.
Bad companies will be bad companies, with or without cameras.
And unions and good employment law will help to make for better jobs for all.
As soon as drivers start repeating the spin and b/s that management try and brainwash us with (and evidently successfully) we are all ■■■■ ed.
As ever I will just be the first to say the other old chestnut to save you a job.. ..
‘‘If you are doing nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about’’ 
How’s that going so far?
I5 hour days, 9 hour rests, 70+ hours expected to work,.crap wages, …and again co.b/s like cameras, drivers paying for damage etc…
Aye right.
You have done the job longer than even me…
How many ‘‘good companies’’ are left.
What is the ratio today for good against bad, in terms of co ‘b/s drivers’ being pushed, and all the rest of the crap…at a guess 90% to 10%.
Cheers.
i am all for outward facing cameras. Absolutely no need for inward facing ones they are there purely to sack the driver. Noone need bother coming back with they will only be checked if you do something wrong or any other cobblers, because how do they know you have done something wrong if they havent checked the cameras.
this thead is a case in point. the lorry moved over to pass the parked cars it didnt swerve as the article says he then mounted the pavement apparently because he was fiddling with the prat nav. bloody stupid place to do it agreed. there are a whole host of different scenarios he could of chosen instead. a camera in his face wouldnt change the fact he chose there to do it.
I thought you would say that.
So what is wrong with that?
In the case of an incident look at the camera. Do not look at it otherwise.
If the driver is playing silly buggers he is properly roasted. If he has a sudden sneezing fit that is seen.
If you say that some companies will want to use cameras as minute by minute monitoring?
Yep, that is true. I do not think is a good use of them. But for all that, they cannot be un-invented.
What is needed is companies and unions to agree on using them for safety not for nit picking.
A camera will not prevent bad actions.
A speed camera will not prevent speeding.
Knowing they are there, and that bad actions will be recorded, will discourage speeding and other stupidity.
It will never end it. We are talking about humans…(and lorry drivers)…so stuff will happen. But it should help make some of the not quite terminally stupid ones think twice.
Says who? How do we know he wasn’t playing with summat else?
I would assume that his phone would have been checked by those who know how to forensically examine them? Or maybe since it was non fatal they did not go that far?
Whatever the true cause he did plead guilty. Difficult to do much else.
What if alleged he was attacked by a swarm of bees that later flew off? A camera would show him as an honest victim or a liar.
the article you quoted is who. and the lorry driver when he admitted to it all. unless he was watching sex videos and haveing a tug i dont see any reason to lie. However you obviously know better so tell us oh thinks he knows it all what was he doing?
being attacked by a swarm of bees would of shown up on the external cameras and would of shown his window was open. not to mention the fact he would have bee stings on his person.
you really do talk absolute cobblers or is it they were designed by borris to spread the word of brexit
Just as I thought YOU would say THAT.
Ok, nothing whatsoever …if you are a conformist servile borg type yes man…thing is, I ain’t.
Not getting into all this crap again with you Franglais,.all this ‘obtuseness for the sake of it’ on every god dam thing is getting tedious and boring, as well as your re.cycling of old arguments with me…(as yesterday Southport riots.)
You obviously have more time on your hands than me for 5 page pointless ressurected arguments, but if you REALLY want to know my thoughts on all this, do your famous post trawling on it …it s all there for ya,.cos quite frankly,.and to use my old catchprase, I simply CBA.
(Or carry on droning on about 'kin hospitals to attempt to justify your ‘‘blowing things out of all proportion’’ as to what a Tory said.
Thing is the guy got his just deserves..he got banned and fined,.so what more could a camera do.
Btw I forgot the other chestnut these types use to justify (to themselves) in cab cameras .
‘‘They don’t watch you 24/7’’
Missing the point completely that the fact is they are able to whether they do or not.
The old adage… Drivers are there OWN worst enemies…always have been,.always will be.
And that on this subject today…’ ‘‘Is my final answer Chris’’'…or is it Jeremy now.
Which is exactly where you miss the point.
If they are not used 24/7, but only after an incident they are not a problem.
Ok you’ve got me back…I just had to respond to that one.
As I said you have done the job longer than me.
Do you REALLY believe that if a firm had the facility to view a driver at random through the day that they would say…
'‘Oh no, not doing that, we promised the drivers these would only be facilitated after an incident,.we are keeping our word to them’ …
I mean c’mon, all I can say is your experience of haulage firms, differs greatly from mine.
Yeah I do.
The companies I worked for were not big ones, and tended to leave us to sort things out ourselves.
I fully accept that there are other companies out there who are into trying to micro-mange their drivers. They do need to be ..spoken to strongly… by unions etc.
I do remember when we had stronger unions and decent employers who talked to employees, not dictated to them.
I don’t think that unions should have the power to close down firms over minor issues. But over years they have be legislated into a position where they are too weak.
Employers using zero hrs contracts, hire and fire etc have become too strong.
Companies are part of the countries they operate in.
They are a part of society. They should not be above society.
Not quite Wolfie Smith stuff, 
I don’t say the workers should rule, but I do say the share holders should not view workers as “meat puppets”
You’ve been lucky then in terms of employment history.
When jacked my own business I ended up working for a firm based in Colchester, brilliant firm to work for,.trested drivers as grown ups, good money, kept unit at home (as next 2 jobs) the only down side was the ‘‘Essex boy’s’’ their attitudes in general, …gobby ‘‘I aint fa… doing this,.I fa… told him that’’ etc etc .
After I started the lad in charge phoned me specially to thank me for doing something…which was part of my job 
, he was so used to the Essex boys giving him ag…
So yeah they looked after me well, and I reciprocated accordinglly, they bought me a fridge and m/wave (to keep) when they were not mainstream in trucks at that time…great firm to work for, but the owner sold up.
Next stop Harry Vos…not SO good, ‘The Dutch’…nuff said.
Then the Belgian side Brit Euro trans out of Zeeby,.another great firm to work for, but I was made redundant…again.
So I’m thinking all firms must be like this after up to 20 yrs on my own business…wrong.!!
I started here, complete shock to system, b1tching, back biting, co b/s abd aggravation, and they attempted (unsuccesfully) to push me,.and my wages were down quite considerably.
Later found out all firns in my area were much the same, but this lot were best of a bad bunch…so I strived to keep my head down,.deflect all the crap (still today) and I managed to make a good little number for myself which I enjoy.
Everybody I spoke to since say all this type of crap is normal today…most firms are like this,.and the few left who are not,… the drivers never leave.
So based on that knowledge (1st hand) that is why I ridiculed your point
An ‘episode’ but which he conveniently managed to clear all the parked cars but didn’t see the need to stop at 0.01 on the basis that he could clout the pedestrian on the opposite pavement ahead with the offside mirrors, at least.Let alone the needless swerve to the right.
Should have been banned from driving for life and a shorter, but not suspended, sentence.