What the hell was he doing

Was ot the mirror that got her?
I didnt realise,.I thought he’d kinda side swiped her

Makes you think about the guy in Edinburgh who was beheaded by a bus mirror as reported…(and definitely NOT a hushed up terrorist attack )

Looks like an artic, you see the trailer a little on the rear view. To be a mirror swipe it would be a small unit or a very tall woman.
CF is probably wrong about mirror strike. The cops say he mounted the pavement and it looks like he did. She was lucky not be worse off.
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Yep I was lucky with companies and I reckon there are some out there who are running very differently today.
But are they employing people to scroll through hours and hours of video to try and catch someone out sipping a coffee at the wheel?
Seems unlikely to me?

Seems unlikely to me also…you miss the point.

The ‘‘Don’t worry they are not watching you 24/7’’ thing (that is used to make you accept it) is irrelavant.

The ‘‘If you are doing nothing erong whats the problem’’ is the ‘yes man’s mantra.’

It s just nother nail in the coffin of a job that people like you and me were attracted to that used to be good and enjoyable
Is it any wonder cos of b/s like this,.that young lads aint as keen today …or as many.

It seems I am missing your point then.
The cameras are not used for routine surveillance?

We might agree that companies who spend time and money on recruiting drivers, sending them out with mentors, getting them up to speed with company practises, are not in the game of looking for petty excuses to get rid of the drivers that keep the trucks moving? They don’t have rooms of people looking over camera footage for minor events?

So what is the problem? Honestly, I cannot see any big issues.

If there is a problem with driver recruitment, and it seems there is, I don’t see that cameras are the prime reason for it. I could be wrong, but see no evidence for that.
Pay, hours, etc might be nearer the mark?
When I started the hourly rate was above that of the average worker. There was opportunity to get out and be independent of immediate supervision. There was more to the job to get involved in.
It can still be a better job than many routine jobs, but well, I cannot really pretend that I am at t he cutting edge of the opinion of the yoof of today…I doubt you can too! :grinning_face:
It is for today’s newbies to comment on today’s issues. We should not comment on today vs decades ago.

Oh ffs do you have to ?:roll_eyes:
You are even getting me tied in knots now, just read what I said.
It is over management, it is another example of how the quality of the job has dropped,.we all managed quite well with out them, I don’t agree with them, they are a piss take basically.
If you disagree with them then crack on I aint bothered, let that suffice eh?:roll_eyes:

Good for you I never said that either.

I don’t agree, if you have left the job like you…maybe, but I haven’t

I didn’t say he actually clouted her with the mirrors.
It looked like a swerve involving some other even worse contact luckily she fell away from the trailer wheels.
But excessive risk to the pedestrian was clear long before the muppet reached her at 0.01.He also wasn’t even checking through on the mirrors let alone stopped on approach.
But the video seems weird and surreal.Probably because of the unbelievable standard of driving and camera views.

This is how it is where I’m at. Nobody looks at them unless there’s been an incident. I hit a deer a couple of weeks ago, 1am, dark country road in the arse crack of nowhere, just jumped out of bushes when I was on top of it as in about 20ft away, just about had enough time to make a half-arsed attempt at trying to steer away from it.

Came in, filled in accident report. Goes into work the following night, transport supervisor said they’d had a look at the footage and said there was no way in hell I was avoiding that. Job done, case closed.

Another way to observe that would be
They didn’t trust your word
You filled in all forms and explained what happened
Probably couldn’t wait to watch it
But all is good as they say, if you did nothing wrong all is ok because the camera is there to protect you
Is there a in face camera in the cab

I agree.
For every one example given of an inward camera ‘saving’ the driver, there sure as hell will be 10x that where the driver ‘suffered’ for it.

I aint talking about idiots who play on their phone and the like either…that is the extreme rsther than the norm…and if they are the excuse for the rest of us having caneras,.well that says a lot about firms and the industry as a whole.
The CPC ensured that many older experienced drivers left the job, if others leave because of this,.all that will be left are those responsible for the fitting of them in the first place, oh yeah and the yes men who put up with any god dam thing without questioning…maybe I’m a bit slow here,maybe this is what these firms are wanting as an agenda :thinking:…(not really btw )

Say what you like it is physically, mentally and humanly impossible for a driver to purely 100% concentrate solidly for 4 and half/9 hours periods.
I’m talking ‘‘theory driving’’ here, eyes fully facing forward, fully alert,.sat bolt upright with hands at 10 to 2 like a robot.

When the sh hits the fan I don’t want to be going to jail for something mundane as searching for a radio station, looking through my side window, having a long yawn, picking my nose or scratching my arse, cos you can sure as hell bet they will pin it on YOU if they can find a reason or an excuse, you all know what these firms are like…or you should.:roll_eyes:

I aint talking about the thread subject here , but during those ROUTINE and human behavioural lapses of concentration I mentioned… sh is gonna happen !