What logistics will look like in 2030 ( according to experts

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Here`s a study by the world renowned Price Waterhouse Cooper telling us how automation WILL be in place by 2030. i.e. in 12 years from now.

Whenever I see anything like this I just cast my mind back 12 years before now to 2006 to crosscheck the technological leaps in the same time frame. :smiley:

See also Richard Branson July 2008 " space flight within 18 months "

so it don’t matter about us drivers,we’ll just be thrown on the scrapheap,11 yrs from now I will be 66 still quite young in todays world,also a few thousand like me around the same age,so what will we do,sit on our behinds twiddling our thumbs because technology took our jobs,not right,i don’t particularly like driving anymore but it pays the bills,how will they get paid when I cannot work in the driving industry,suppose theres always cleaning work[lol]mind you robots will do that as well won’t they

That video is pure comedy gold. Also, what they fail to realise is that there will be no products being made, because no sod will have any money to buy them because they lost their jobs (or their meaningful and valuable skills) to automation.

So, a product is made and it’s ‘smart’ chip summons the nearest lorry that happens to be going to the correct hub in the correct town. The load is time critical as it’s feeding a production line.

Let’s say a list of the 3 most suitable vehicles is made, and there’s a Stobarts, a one man band EE shed, and a reefer from the Orkney islands. The EE shed is going the correct way, and is half the price of Stobarts, but 4 hours away. The Reefer is already going for a backload somewhere, but Stobarts are literally 5 minutes away and going exactly the right way… but are twice the price of the EE shed. How is the load and rate going to get agreed? Would Stobarts touch a random load from a random factory as a one off? Would Stobarts be aware that they have the factory by the danglies and double their price once more?

This system in the video is dreamt by those who have no idea of the real world. It will never happen this way, not in 12 years.

Two things.

One, who will actually take the product out of the van at the delivery point? The customer? I doubt that very much, they always seem to be pregnant or suffering from a bad back in my experience.

Two. If these smart products are capable of arranging their own transport and navigate their way round hubs before being put on a van and delivered on their own, does this mean the end of the planner?

This system in the video is dreamt by those who have no idea of the real world. It will never happen this way, not in 12 years.

If you really believe that I think you are the dreamer. The technology for these systems has been in place for a long time and far more advanced than some realise.

jakethesnake:
This system in the video is dreamt by those who have no idea of the real world. It will never happen this way, not in 12 years.

If you really believe that I think you are the dreamer. The technology for these systems has been in place for a long time and far more advanced than some realise.

Where you bin Doctor?

Should remember to log in as the right alter ego.

jakethesnake:
This system in the video is dreamt by those who have no idea of the real world. It will never happen this way, not in 12 years.

If you really believe that I think you are the dreamer. The technology for these systems has been in place for a long time and far more advanced than some realise.

So has Mutally Assured Destruction. As has a cure for cancer, the common cold, autonomous vehicles, electric vehicles, hydrogen vehicles, fuel cells, hyperloops, China overtaking America, everybody in India ■■■■■■■ at once and the world exploding etc etc etc.

They’ve also taken Credulous out of the dictionary, so that people won’t be able to label those that won’t conform and believe the revolution actually will be podcast :laughing:

ezydriver:
Also, what they fail to realise is that there will be no products being made, because no sod will have any money to buy them because they lost their jobs (or their meaningful and valuable skills) to automation.

Look on the bright side the robots won’t moan about all the humans living the high life on their unemployment benefits and early retirement based on previous earnings,while the robots do all the work.Oh wait the robot operators will then call the redundant human workforce scroungers asking for unsustainable unemployment benefits and pensions.While the warehouses fill up with loads of unsold stuff and the economists saying it’s all the fault of the lazy unemployed humans not wanting to work.

no one will need a job when full autonomy comes in as we will just get someone to stand in front of the truck we need, unload what we want then let it on its way, no need for money or worries about stealing as there are not enough police now. and obviously the benefits system will pay for the rest of what we need.

Agreed 12 years is a tad optimistic.

The parcel industry still relies on sorters and that could of been automated decades ago. :laughing:
The technology first needs to be invented then refined then affordable and lastly reliable enough for people to be willing to try it.

They said by the year 2000 we would all get around on hover boards…

Well after 24 years working in road transport I class myself as a bit of an expert so,
Here is my expert view of 2030,
It will be mostly the same,
We may be driving Volvo fh version 5,
Pay will be roughly the same,
The new daf xf will still look like the old one,
Eddie stobart will still be going bust,
Probably still be on here bleating about our problems :smiley: :smiley:
Seriously though apart from a few new bits of technology to trucks it will be the same,
Trust me Iv heard all this tripe before.

yorkshire terrier:
Well after 24 years working in road transport I class myself as a bit of an expert so,
Here is my expert view of 2030,
It will be mostly the same,
We may be driving Volvo fh version 5,
Pay will be roughly the same,
The new daf xf will still look like the old one,
Eddie stobart will still be going bust,
Probably still be on here bleating about our problems :smiley: :smiley:
Seriously though apart from a few new bits of technology to trucks it will be the same,
Trust me Iv heard all this tripe before.

Eeeexactly!

Firstly, how many of you bought something today that wasn’t an actual ‘thing’. Something that doesn’t really exist like something that you can hold in your hand does. A txt msg, or a phone call, an app for your phone or even the data that a free app requires?

You all bought something today that didn’t require your precious lorry to deliver it. Even if it was the programme you watched on your telly or this silly text you read on your screen.

Secondly, this mythical lorry that drives itself & no longer needs you behind the wheel is not the lorry that you drive, it isn’t doing the same job in the way that you do it & it isn’t travelling on the same roads.

The autonomous truck of 2030 will be as alien to you as your truck is to your grandfather.

Break out of the nonsense & start thinking.

Should be noted though that the UK government currently hates all emmisions and are trying to get them to zero. I don’t think they have set out any plans for trucks yet due to their being no alternatives to diesel that arent a gimmick. If the government does change its mind on this though it could cause quite a big change in the industry.

I don’t see it happening at all though.

Dork Lard:
Firstly, how many of you bought something today that wasn’t an actual ‘thing’. Something that doesn’t really exist like something that you can hold in your hand does. A txt msg, or a phone call, an app for your phone or even the data that a free app requires?

You all bought something today that didn’t require your precious lorry to deliver it. Even if it was the programme you watched on your telly or this silly text you read on your screen.

Secondly, this mythical lorry that drives itself & no longer needs you behind the wheel is not the lorry that you drive, it isn’t doing the same job in the way that you do it & it isn’t travelling on the same roads.

The autonomous truck of 2030 will be as alien to you as your truck is to your grandfather.

Break out of the nonsense & start thinking.

Great non existent roads and non existent trucks delivering non existent food and all the other no longer existent stuff instead of all the real stuff delivered by real trucks as we know them.At least that will fix the problems of non existent wages because the robots have taken all the jobs.

Dork Lard:
Firstly, how many of you bought something today that wasn’t an actual ‘thing’. Something that doesn’t really exist like something that you can hold in your hand does. A txt msg, or a phone call, an app for your phone or even the data that a free app requires?

You all bought something today that didn’t require your precious lorry to deliver it. Even if it was the programme you watched on your telly or this silly text you read on your screen.

Secondly, this mythical lorry that drives itself & no longer needs you behind the wheel is not the lorry that you drive, it isn’t doing the same job in the way that you do it & it isn’t travelling on the same roads.

The autonomous truck of 2030 will be as alien to you as your truck is to your grandfather.

Break out of the nonsense & start thinking.

Exactly , right on track DL.

adam277:
Should be noted though that the UK government currently hates all emmisions and are trying to get them to zero. I don’t think they have set out any plans for trucks yet due to their being no alternatives to diesel that arent a gimmick. If the government does change its mind on this though it could cause quite a big change in the industry.

I don’t see it happening at all though.

You don’t see it happening or you don’t want it to happen?

jakethesnake:

adam277:
Should be noted though that the UK government currently hates all emmisions and are trying to get them to zero. I don’t think they have set out any plans for trucks yet due to their being no alternatives to diesel that arent a gimmick. If the government does change its mind on this though it could cause quite a big change in the industry.

I don’t see it happening at all though.

You don’t see it happening or you don’t want it to happen?

Im all for change.
But if the government isn’t going to force change then I don’t see it happening and how can they?
I think in a few years time once progress has been made we might see something from the government but atm both electric trucks and self driving trucks are just not feasible.
But that’s my take on it I believe that the self driving and electric truck push will probably happen at the same time.

adam277:

jakethesnake:

adam277:
Should be noted though that the UK government currently hates all emmisions and are trying to get them to zero. I don’t think they have set out any plans for trucks yet due to their being no alternatives to diesel that arent a gimmick. If the government does change its mind on this though it could cause quite a big change in the industry.

I don’t see it happening at all though.

You don’t see it happening or you don’t want it to happen?

Im all for change.
But if the government isn’t going to force change then I don’t see it happening and how can they?
I think in a few years time once progress has been made we might see something from the government but atm both electric trucks and self driving trucks are just not feasible.
But that’s my take on it I believe that the self driving and electric truck push will probably happen at the same time.

From what I can gather the Government have a background seat on this at the moment.Too many other important issues to deal with but the companies leading the way in automation are paving the way of the future and once all is ready to go it will be gradually phased in with the backing of all including the Government.
It really is all happening according to many experts and yes in may not happen in 12 years but if not it won’t be long after but in 20 years time lorry driving and distribution will be nothing like it is now. Will it be better? Probably in most respects.