What Is A Crap Wage?

I’m on £100 per shift.

Plus £22 per night out, which is normally 3 or 4.

Don’t bother working out the hourly rate equivalent, too depressing!

Trip money is a crap wage, job and finish to an early grave. Give me a genuine decent hourly rate please.

i take home £395 a week ,that includes 4 nights out a week,plus i am also paying £70.00 for my dcpc,think yourself lucky if offered £7,50 per hour :cry: :cry:

DonutUK:
I’m on £100 per shift.

Plus £22 per night out, which is normally 3 or 4.

Don’t bother working out the hourly rate equivalent, too depressing!

The thing is though that does not state the hours you work to earn it, for instance the grab driver where i work is on £110 per day he starts between 6.30- 7.00 am and is usually back in the yard between 3.00-4.00pm, a bad day is 5pm, job and knock so this does not look too bad on the face of it. He was moaning yesterday that Balfour Beatty grab drivers were on £5k more per year than he is and that he is basically poorly paid :laughing: , so everything is relative. £7.50ph for someone living in Oxfordshire does seem poor relative to the local cost of living, where as here in West Yorkshire that is now about average across the board.

As I said previously it depends on circumstances when I lost my job 15 months back (non driving job) I went back into driving and started out in a 7.5 and was earning £9ph for ups, I then took my class 1 and started where I am now , i had to do the first 3 months at £9ph, different rates at weekend and nights. Now nine months on the rate is £15.50 ph day shift, £18.50 ph night shift 45 to 58 hours per week …

Hoping to hold on to this one …

Funny how in one thread most are giving it the whole, “the job is piece easy and totally un-skilled”, then in another you’ve got the same idiots telling everyone they dont work for less than £9 an hour… Cant really have it both ways can you…

Smoggie89:
That is good for up here (NE) a couple of company’s don’t pay more than £7 for class 1 here £6.60/£6.70 p/h

+1

For agency guys up here it’s usually 6.50 (class 2/7.5ton) to 7.50 (artic) roughly. The girls and boys at the tills of most of the shops you’re delivering to are probably paid more.

SYE-1:
Now nine months on the rate is £15.50 ph day shift, £18.50 ph night shift 45 to 58 hours per week …

Hoping to hold on to this one …

I would be too!.. but only if it was time and a half after 40 hours. :sunglasses:

No doubt somebody will be along in a minute demanding that you post a picture of your wage slip.

SYE-1:
As I said previously it depends on circumstances when I lost my job 15 months back (non driving job) I went back into driving and started out in a 7.5 and was earning £9ph for ups, I then took my class 1 and started where I am now , i had to do the first 3 months at £9ph, different rates at weekend and nights. Now nine months on the rate is £15.50 ph day shift, £18.50 ph night shift 45 to 58 hours per week …

Hoping to hold on to this one …

Where do you work then? Be interested to know who and why the company is paying well over what they need to be. Not like their employing the cream of the crop seeing as you’ve only got 9months experience.

22 years experience driving vans and trucks knowledge of London Home Counties and the industry … Also level D , not that that bumps the wage up just gives you more chance of working…

But yes only 9 months class 1 Infact the day I turned up at this job I had never driven an Arctic…

RM …via agency…

After 3 months in a job you now get the same as all the full time workers, it’s the law .

There’s no point blaming the employers.
Market forces being what they are, if a skinflint boss offers £7ph and some mug jumps at it, then there’s no need for them to raise that rate is there?
“Darn Sarf” here, accommodation is so expensive, that few will be mug enough to work for such a low rate that they’d be paying to go to work.
Live in a cheaper area, and you’ll be commuting so much, you’ll spend your meagre wages on fuel, tolls, and of course wasted time out of your life…

How are you going to earn enough to pay £800-£1200 a month rents if you’re keeping legal on £7ph? I make that £338 pw averaged (legal max) of which you’ll take home about £290. Pay your rent, and you’re scrounging food off your mates by Thursday…
Landlords say “If you don’t like it, don’t live here where the jobs are”… Hah! Jobs?

A proper job IMO is one that pays ALL life’s overheads, and you’ve got enough left to go out once a week, and maybe go on holiday once a year to boot.
Am I too demanding of a job? :confused:

shuttlespanker:

Fatboy slimslow:

rob22888:

Smoggie89:
That is good for up here (NE) a couple of company’s don’t pay more than £7 for class 1 here £6.60/£6.70 p/h

Sweet jesus. The cleaner mopping the toilets at the MSA we stop at isnt doing much worse. They arent in charge of 44 tons on the road and they certainly didnt pay £2k for their stripes.Sad state of affairs.

That’s why it’s going to get worse = DCPC! :open_mouth: :unamused: :smiling_imp: :imp: Rumu’s, Bulgars and hungarocamions will drive it lower! :bulb: :bulb: How did that song go? " WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE KIDDING MR HITLER■■? :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: ENOCH POWELL had the right idea! :open_mouth: :unamused: time to vote ukip, bnp, nf, edl, c18 or " THE WHITE WOLVES " I think! Just to think that a White, working class male is a minority in his own country? Tut tut tut! :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing:

are you actually aware that it was Enoch Powell himself that opened the doors for the immigrants to come here in the first place?

somehow, i think not :unamused:

That always ticked me rob. Enoch was right and he was there in the 50s bringing the commonweth labour in.

Winseer:
There’s no point blaming the employers.
Market forces being what they are, if a skinflint boss offers £7ph and some mug jumps at it, then there’s no need for them to raise that rate is there?
“Darn Sarf” here, accommodation is so expensive, that few will be mug enough to work for such a low rate that they’d be paying to go to work.
Live in a cheaper area, and you’ll be commuting so much, you’ll spend your meagre wages on fuel, tolls, and of course wasted time out of your life…

How are you going to earn enough to pay £800-£1200 a month rents if you’re keeping legal on £7ph? I make that £338 pw averaged (legal max) of which you’ll take home about £290. Pay your rent, and you’re scrounging food off your mates by Thursday…
Landlords say “If you don’t like it, don’t live here where the jobs are”… Hah! Jobs?

A proper job IMO is one that pays ALL life’s overheads, and you’ve got enough left to go out once a week, and maybe go on holiday once a year to boot.
Am I too demanding of a job? :confused:

A mate of Mine went for a job the boss said I know the wage ain’t great but you can claim tax credits. WTF pay a proper wage and not subsidies e your business with government handouts.

windrush:
Long out of the game myself, but surely it all depends on what type of work and rates the truck is involved with? A driver working for a tipper firm etc who’s rates are fixed by the quarries etc is hardly likely to get paid the same wage as someone doing top rated work where the haulier can call the shots as the company could not afford it, but he/she may be perfectly happy with that as they can manage OK. You can hardly compare a part time cleaner’s rate of pay, that will ALWAYS be more as the hours to earn are considerably less.

Pete.

I didsagree I’ve mainly done tipper work and have always earned around the wage of people going max hours general haulage with nights out.
Although location has a lot to fo with that.

Saaamon:

SYE-1:
As I said previously it depends on circumstances when I lost my job 15 months back (non driving job) I went back into driving and started out in a 7.5 and was earning £9ph for ups, I then took my class 1 and started where I am now , i had to do the first 3 months at £9ph, different rates at weekend and nights. Now nine months on the rate is £15.50 ph day shift, £18.50 ph night shift 45 to 58 hours per week …

Hoping to hold on to this one …

Where do you work then? Be interested to know who and why the company is paying well over what they need to be. Not like their employing the cream of the crop seeing as you’ve only got 9months experience.

Why is the company paying more than what they need to be. If they are paying it fair play. If your boss offered you that would you say no you need it more than me.

Saaamon:
Funny how in one thread most are giving it the whole, “the job is piece easy and totally un-skilled”, then in another you’ve got the same idiots telling everyone they dont work for less than £9 an hour… Cant really have it both ways can you…

It’s not rocet science that’s a fact. But you can earn a decent living at it if your not a total moron.

Muckaway:
I turned down a job paying £7.50p/h yesterday as it was too far to travel. I’d give it serious thought if it was on my doorstep but it still sounds a crap rate. What do you think is acceptable?

I recon there’s an earthline motor with your name on it. :slight_smile: :smiley:

kr79:

Muckaway:
I turned down a job paying £7.50p/h yesterday as it was too far to travel. I’d give it serious thought if it was on my doorstep but it still sounds a crap rate. What do you think is acceptable?

I recon there’s an earthline motor with your name on it. :slight_smile: :smiley:

I’ll stick with agency then, thankyou. :laughing:

kr79:
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Why is the company paying more than what they need to be. If they are paying it fair play. If your boss offered you that would you say no you need it more than me.

Thats what R oyal Ma il pay there drivers , with the 3 month law any agency staff earn the same after this period , thay also get bonuses and a driver trainer get £215 a month more on top … Fingers crossed they don’t privatise …

hell fire , I pay my one lgv driver £12 per hour for class 3 but he has a class 1(45 hours per week ) including his break , plus£33 for night out allowance , myself and my brother also drive the wagons and we have two full time porters on £9.62 per hour who can bothdrive 3.5 sprinters .this is on removals and they do have occasional nights awy for up to a week away .overtime during the week is time only ,sat is time/half ,sun is double time .i must say myself is on a lot less .