" I’m coming in "
" No, you’re not "
Pair of knobs. Willy waving of the highest order.
Both as bad as each other. Either of them could have avoided any further impact after the first. It’s more luck than judgement neither of them got wrapped around the mixer on the shoulder, now that would have made a mess.
Bernard
albion1938:
Both as bad as each other. Either of them could have avoided any further impact after the first. It’s more luck than judgement neither of them got wrapped around the mixer on the shoulder, now that would have made a mess.
Bernard
At least it would have been poetic justice (as long as the mixer driver was clear of it all)
Pair of utter amateurs.
One wonders what happened 300m previous though - the MAN still tried even though he must have felt the first tap - I’d say it looks like a bit of the old road rage to me.
Bloody hell, both of them must have smaller todgers than me (which takes some doing), would be interesting to see any lead up footage in case the pair have had a previous encounter.
No special licence needed for the 7.5tonner so muppetry is commonplace, the camera vehicle should set a higher standard.
We’ve all had similar and yes it’s tempting to just hit the twunt but the realisation this makes one look an even bigger twunt saves the day.
New dashcam or just a so called pro driver having an off moment.
Ease off, flash them in, jobs a goodun.
It’s a warzone out there but we are all on the same bloody side
Winseer:
It should never be considered “wrong” for someone to refuse to brake hard to avoid hitting an idiot who is playing chicken with you.Consider the safety of OTHER users, for example the vehicle right behind, or alongside in lane 2. There is a barrier on the left, so “steering away” isn’t an option.
You don’t want to be involved in a crash “all by yourself” because some fool has “forced” you off the road. The horn was sounded, and ignored. This impact is 100% the fault of the 7.5t then.
If I were to suggest that ANY blame were on the DAF driver - then when approaching someone coming at you on their wrong side of the road, - it would be “blameworthy” to head-on hit them, rather than just crash off a cliff/bridge/hilltop and kill yourself.
If I thought laying down my life would save multiples of innocents - then I would like to think I would be stepping up to the mark.
If I am “pushed” into risking my life to let a tool of scot-free though - Nope!.. If I’m forced into a collission - it’s going to be involving him - make no mistake!
At what point would have the guy driving the truck giving the prick in the 7.5t space put him or anybody else in danger? In fact his actions or lack of it put himself and other on that road in more danger than if he’d taken a moderate bit of avoiding action.
the camera trucks in his lane, mr puddle jumper comes along in his truck,indicates, misjudges, and hits camera truck[twice]how is the camera truck to blame in any way at all,you can see who’s in the wrong quite clearly
truckman020:
the camera trucks in his lane, mr puddle jumper comes along in his truck,indicates, misjudges, and hits camera truck[twice]how is the camera truck to blame in any way at all,you can see who’s in the wrong quite clearly
He could have eased up and made room for errant driver, instead he maintained his speed and exacerbated the situation. If you think he is blameless then perhaps you should consider whether you should be driving.
truckman020:
the camera trucks in his lane, mr puddle jumper comes along in his truck,indicates, misjudges, and hits camera truck[twice]how is the camera truck to blame in any way at all,you can see who’s in the wrong quite clearly
Because if somebody makes a misjudgement and you can avoid it turning into a major incident by reacting to it then you should do that.
truckman020:
the camera trucks in his lane, mr puddle jumper comes along in his truck,indicates, misjudges, and hits camera truck[twice]how is the camera truck to blame in any way at all,you can see who’s in the wrong quite clearly
Ok, so if you had been driving camera truck in that situation, tell us what you would have done, and how you would have coped with the situation.
Harry Monk:
truckman020:
the camera trucks in his lane, mr puddle jumper comes along in his truck,indicates, misjudges, and hits camera truck[twice]how is the camera truck to blame in any way at all,you can see who’s in the wrong quite clearlyBecause if somebody makes a misjudgement and you can avoid it turning into a major incident by reacting to it then you should do that.
This ^^^^^^^
robroy:
truckman020:
the camera trucks in his lane, mr puddle jumper comes along in his truck,indicates, misjudges, and hits camera truck[twice]how is the camera truck to blame in any way at all,you can see who’s in the wrong quite clearlyOk, so if you had been driving camera truck in that situation, tell us what you would have done, and how you would have coped with the situation.
I might not have been able to avoid the first collisions, but I wouldn’t have made it worse. I would have eased off the gas, giving him a little room, and sworn continually at him through the windscreen for several minutes.
Ok, but just looked again, and I reckon collision 1 COULD have been avoided.
It appears that as soon as the lane markings for coming off the Mway appear, 7 and half slows down a touch.
I reckon camera guy should have anticipated that he was wanting in his lane, and could easily have avoided the first collision if he had backed off after anticipating, even before Knob Ed had started to cut in on him.
Irrespective of whether or not he was supposed or obliged to.
White lorry driver won’t do it again…
robroy:
Ok, but just looked again, and I reckon collision 1 COULD have been avoided.
It appears that as soon as the lane markings for coming off the Mway appear, 7 and half slows down a touch.
I reckon camera guy should have anticipated that he was wanting in his lane, and could easily have avoided the first collision if he had backed off after anticipating, even before Knob Ed had started to cut in on him.
Irrespective of whether or not he was supposed or obliged to.
To be fair, if that was me, I normally turn the cc off for a couple of seconds if someone’s trying to overtake me. That would have broken the chain of events and it would have been a non event. Unfortunately the roads are full of people who see considerate driving as a sign of weakness.
A good friend of mine used to have a saying that applied to many situations, “It’s no good being in the right if you are dead”. This is a good case where it could have got a lot worse and turned into a fatal accident.
Someone then has to live with the thought “Could I have reduced the consequences of this?” even though I didn’t create the situation.
A case of “If only”
Captain Caveman 76:
To be fair, if that was me, I normally turn the cc off for a couple of seconds if someone’s trying to overtake me. That would have broken the chain of events and it would have been a non event. Unfortunately the roads are full of people who see considerate driving as a sign of weakness.
Yes, you can clearly see that the camera vehicle is closing on the truck ahead of him in Lane 1, meaning he has kept the power on when road conditions dictated that he should have been slowing down at that point.
To be fair, if that was me, I normally turn the cc off for a couple of seconds if someone’s trying to overtake me. That would have broken the chain of events and it would have been a non event. Unfortunately the roads are full of people who see considerate driving as a sign of weakness.
This becomes obvious when you signal someone to make a manoeuvre and there is hesitation because they are not used to such things.
I’m surprised that some people seem to be suggesting the driver with the dash-cam was blameless, if you can stop an accident but don’t you have to accept that you was partly responsible for the accident happening.
Captain Caveman 76:
Unfortunately the roads are full of people who see considerate driving as a sign of weakness.
That’s a good point, but more unfortunately many of these characters have Class 1 licences, and still think they are professionals.