I don’t expect car drivers to drive to a high standard either, but there are a lot of car drivers out there that do and respond and work well with lorries if your drive well don’t bully and indicate sensibly (except in cities, palaces of hell), i expect better standards from lorry drivers for reasons that shouldn’t need explaining and am increasingly disappointed.
Tailgating by lorries is a bugbear of mine, they do it to cars a lot presumably to bully them out of the way and up to a point i understand they are too thick know any better than this, what i can’t understand is why tailgate someone who due to traffic can’t go anywhere its pointless, and i doubly can’t figure out why jam yourself right up the arse of a lorry in front, which takes away all field of vision and if the lorry in front stops fast will quite likely lead to serious injury or worse for our hero.
My biggest annoyance is lack of or incorrect signalling on roundabouts, things have got so bad now i find myself waving thanks to people who have indicated well and allowed me to make or maintain progress, second biggest annoyance is failing to acknowledge courtesy shown by another road user whatever one might be driving pedalling or even walking it costs nothing to show some basic manners, lack of manners show trash up for what they are no matter how much money they might have.
Couldn’t agree more, especially the last paragraph.
Just like to add that we can all get it wrong occasionally and unintentionally hold someone up.
If we cut each other some slack everyone has an easier day
Tailgating by lorries is a bugbear of mine, they do it to cars a lot presumably to bully them out of the way and up to a point i understand they are too thick know any better than this, what i can’t understand is why tailgate someone who due to traffic can’t go anywhere its pointless, and i doubly can’t figure out why jam yourself right up the arse of a lorry in front, which takes away all field of vision and if the lorry in front stops fast will quite likely lead to serious injury or worse for our hero.
Massive +1
This type of driving is from the lowest of the low. The suicidal morons have no respect for anyone including themselves. Multiple fatalities and severe injuries every year caused by these incompetent brainless dicks. Car, van and bus drivers are just as bad.
robroy:
No there are many good young drivers out there, the inept, the feckless and the useless can be any age.
Btw if you are my Granda, you will know it was you who ‘christened’ me Robroy (after Robby) in the first place
So from now on it’s not Jakey anymore.
Cheers Granda.
Come on rob don’t fraternize with the enemy, the old street creds diminishing mate.
Drivers who leave you stranded out in an overtaking lane after you’ve moved over to let them join, causing you to have to back off to rejoin the left hand side.
Truck drivers that absolutely refuse to do any less than 56mph on motorways, weaving in and out of lanes even at peak times where the gains in doing so are absolutely negligible.
The absolute plankton types (normally always artics) who just happen to be leaving a trading estate at the exact same time as you who, in a state of oblivion crawl down the road at 10mph while presumably sorting out paperwork.
Anybody in a Prius. Why is it always a Prius?!?!?!
People who do a 7 point turn in the road despite there being a roundabout several yards ahead.
People that pull out on you and cause you to slow down or even stop despite there being nothing whatsoever behind you.
I could go on all night but I’ll leave it there for everyone’s sanity.
robroy:
No there are many good young drivers out there, the inept, the feckless and the useless can be any age.
Btw if you are my Granda, you will know it was you who ‘christened’ me Robroy (after Robby) in the first place
So from now on it’s not Jakey anymore.
Cheers Granda.
Come on rob don’t fraternize with the enemy, the old street creds diminishing mate.
Nah Granda Jake ain’t my enemy by any means, we just don’t see eye to eye on a lot of stuff, and he just lurrves to annoy me.
I’ll continue to pick him up when he presses my buttons ,…so street cred still intact.
Putting my foot on the brake to avoid ramming 40 tonne of Scania up the arse of a Fiat 500 who overtakes you, decides to move in 4 metres in front of you then slows down to 50mph is as far as my good etiquette to other road users goes.
Although in seriousness, yesterday I went to exit a layby just as a cyclist was puffing up the hill. I waited and as he passed he gave me a thank you wave. I sat behind him up the hill and at the top, he pulled in and let me past with another thank you wave. I gave him a toot of the horn and we both went on our way.
Id say that was good etiquette shown by 2 road users who appreciate the struggles both face when they meet and compromised. Pity thats the exception rather than the norm though
robroy:
No there are many good young drivers out there, the inept, the feckless and the useless can be any age.
Btw if you are my Granda, you will know it was you who ‘christened’ me Robroy (after Robby) in the first place
So from now on it’s not Jakey anymore.
Cheers Granda.
Come on rob don’t fraternize with the enemy, the old street creds diminishing mate.
You seem to have a strange perception of things doggy boy! At least RR has something to say and discusses matters and puts his point across (in no uncertain terms. ) unlike some who only answer when it suits them or to give out abuse.
Although in seriousness, yesterday I went to exit a layby just as a cyclist was puffing up the hill. I waited and as he passed he gave me a thank you wave. I sat behind him up the hill and at the top, he pulled in and let me past with another thank you wave. I gave him a toot of the horn and we both went on our way. Id say that was good etiquette shown by 2 road users who appreciate the struggles both face when they meet and compromised. Pity thats the exception rather than the norm though
Excellent, a decent lorry driver and a decent cyclist both with manners patience and etiquette.
I wouldn’t normally comment on anything like this but having had my break last night in a certain services,parked in a bay,left side lights on and unit a little forward,went for a wander and a brew,came back and you guessed it,some nice gent had abandoned his opposite me and buggered off,there wasn’t a hope in hell I was getting out and when he returned he says how I’m supposed to know your not staying night? Who the f@@k parks up overnight with there lights on and cab curtains open…
What’s happening to the job??
jakethesnake: Although in seriousness, yesterday I went to exit a layby just as a cyclist was puffing up the hill. I waited and as he passed he gave me a thank you wave. I sat behind him up the hill and at the top, he pulled in and let me past with another thank you wave. I gave him a toot of the horn and we both went on our way. Id say that was good etiquette shown by 2 road users who appreciate the struggles both face when they meet and compromised. Pity thats the exception rather than the norm though
Excellent, a decent lorry driver and a decent cyclist both with manners patience and etiquette.
Indeed, very rare.
But which is rarer? A lorry driver with patience and etiquette or a cyclist with patience and etiquette?
jakethesnake: Although in seriousness, yesterday I went to exit a layby just as a cyclist was puffing up the hill. I waited and as he passed he gave me a thank you wave. I sat behind him up the hill and at the top, he pulled in and let me past with another thank you wave. I gave him a toot of the horn and we both went on our way. Id say that was good etiquette shown by 2 road users who appreciate the struggles both face when they meet and compromised. Pity thats the exception rather than the norm though
Excellent, a decent lorry driver and a decent cyclist both with manners patience and etiquette.
Indeed, very rare.
But which is rarer? A lorry driver with patience and etiquette or a cyclist with patience and etiquette?
Now it’s very rare I am stumped with a question but that is a hard one. In Holland and other countries I have visited recently drivers have respect for cyclists (and pedestrians)
There is no agression at all. They just slow down anmd give them plenty of room.
In the UK it seems like a war. I have seen as many D/head cyclists as I have D/head drivers all reacting exactly how they should not. In my opinion some cyclists don’t cycle correctly but the number of drivers who are aggressive towards them is very high. They all need severe penalties for not doing as they should.
jakethesnake: Although in seriousness, yesterday I went to exit a layby just as a cyclist was puffing up the hill. I waited and as he passed he gave me a thank you wave. I sat behind him up the hill and at the top, he pulled in and let me past with another thank you wave. I gave him a toot of the horn and we both went on our way. Id say that was good etiquette shown by 2 road users who appreciate the struggles both face when they meet and compromised. Pity thats the exception rather than the norm though
Excellent, a decent lorry driver and a decent cyclist both with manners patience and etiquette.
Indeed, very rare.
But which is rarer? A lorry driver with patience and etiquette or a cyclist with patience and etiquette?
Now it’s very rare I am stumped with a question but that is a hard one. In Holland and other countries I have visited recently drivers have respect for cyclists (and pedestrians)
There is no agression at all. They just slow down anmd give them plenty of room.
In the UK it seems like a war. I have seen as many D/head cyclists as I have D/head drivers all reacting exactly how they should not. In my opinion some cyclists don’t cycle correctly but the number of drivers who are aggressive towards them is very high. They all need severe penalties for not doing as they should.
Not only respect for cyclists,it’s the law. Cyclists take precedence over vehicles in Holland. Belgium too, i think.
jakethesnake: Although in seriousness, yesterday I went to exit a layby just as a cyclist was puffing up the hill. I waited and as he passed he gave me a thank you wave. I sat behind him up the hill and at the top, he pulled in and let me past with another thank you wave. I gave him a toot of the horn and we both went on our way. Id say that was good etiquette shown by 2 road users who appreciate the struggles both face when they meet and compromised. Pity thats the exception rather than the norm though
Excellent, a decent lorry driver and a decent cyclist both with manners patience and etiquette.
Indeed, very rare.
But which is rarer? A lorry driver with patience and etiquette or a cyclist with patience and etiquette?
Now it’s very rare I am stumped with a question but that is a hard one. In Holland and other countries I have visited recently drivers have respect for cyclists (and pedestrians)
There is no agression at all. They just slow down anmd give them plenty of room.
In the UK it seems like a war. I have seen as many D/head cyclists as I have D/head drivers all reacting exactly how they should not. In my opinion some cyclists don’t cycle correctly but the number of drivers who are aggressive towards them is very high. They all need severe penalties for not doing as they should.
Not only respect for cyclists,it’s the law. Cyclists take precedence over vehicles in Holland. Belgium too, i think.
Not respect. Fear… in the Nerherlands, if a car (or any other vehicle for that matter) is involved in an accident involving a cyclist, the vehicle driver is considered at fault, unless the driver can positively prove that the cyclist was negligently at fault, and that the driver could not reasonably have avoided the accident.
Of course, it is also the case that cycles have always outnumbered cars in the Netherlands, that almost everybody in the Netherlands grows up cycling, or at least surrounded by cycling, and that the road infrastructure heavily favours cyclists. The Dutch are simply more used to the bloody things.
I don’t expect car drivers to drive to a high standard either, but there are a lot of car drivers out there that do and respond and work well with lorries if your drive well don’t bully and indicate sensibly (except in cities, palaces of hell), i expect better standards from lorry drivers for reasons that shouldn’t need explaining and am increasingly disappointed.
Tailgating by lorries is a bugbear of mine, they do it to cars a lot presumably to bully them out of the way and up to a point i understand they are too thick know any better than this, what i can’t understand is why tailgate someone who due to traffic can’t go anywhere its pointless, and i doubly can’t figure out why jam yourself right up the arse of a lorry in front, which takes away all field of vision and if the lorry in front stops fast will quite likely lead to serious injury or worse for our hero.
My biggest annoyance is lack of or incorrect signalling on roundabouts, things have got so bad now i find myself waving thanks to people who have indicated well and allowed me to make or maintain progress, second biggest annoyance is failing to acknowledge courtesy shown by another road user whatever one might be driving pedalling or even walking it costs nothing to show some basic manners, lack of manners show trash up for what they are no matter how much money they might have.
Especially if that truck he’s cajoloing gets an autobrake activation event.Wouldn’t stand a cat in hells
jakethesnake: Although in seriousness, yesterday I went to exit a layby just as a cyclist was puffing up the hill. I waited and as he passed he gave me a thank you wave. I sat behind him up the hill and at the top, he pulled in and let me past with another thank you wave. I gave him a toot of the horn and we both went on our way. Id say that was good etiquette shown by 2 road users who appreciate the struggles both face when they meet and compromised. Pity thats the exception rather than the norm though
Excellent, a decent lorry driver and a decent cyclist both with manners patience and etiquette.
Indeed, very rare.
But which is rarer? A lorry driver with patience and etiquette or a cyclist with patience and etiquette?
Now it’s very rare I am stumped with a question but that is a hard one. In Holland and other countries I have visited recently drivers have respect for cyclists (and pedestrians)
There is no agression at all. They just slow down anmd give them plenty of room.
In the UK it seems like a war. I have seen as many D/head cyclists as I have D/head drivers all reacting exactly how they should not. In my opinion some cyclists don’t cycle correctly but the number of drivers who are aggressive towards them is very high. They all need severe penalties for not doing as they should.
Not only respect for cyclists,it’s the law. Cyclists take precedence over vehicles in Holland. Belgium too, i think.
Yes and it works well in these countries. Maybe it’s about time they made it law in the UK.
It might make the impatient aggressive ones think before they acted like D/heads.
alamcculloch:
I get irked with car drivers dawdling along on M. ways or dual carriageways causing tailbacks.
Can I ask why if there is a car dawdling along why others don’t just overtake? I mean there are 2 or 3 lanes, are there not?
Because M.ways and dual carriage ways have a specific task and that is to get you from A to B in the shortest time legally, something UK car drivers seem to have a problem understanding. A dawdling car on a dual carriageway is than overtaken by a HGV which then slows down everybody, the problem is then compounded when the dozy car driver wakes up and puts his foot down when you are halfway past him. Doesn’t happen on the continent and the traffic generally flows much better which then helps to curb some of the other bad habits as people seem to be less stressed, The Peripherique being a notable exception.
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i do love the peripherique when it is " fluid"…especially when the suicide scooter jockeys split lanes willy nilly at 50 mph when all the traffic is doing 10 mph…obviously by putting their hazard lights on makes them immune to harm.
alamcculloch:
I get irked with car drivers dawdling along on M. ways or dual carriageways causing tailbacks.
Can I ask why if there is a car dawdling along why others don’t just overtake? I mean there are 2 or 3 lanes, are there not?
Because M.ways and dual carriage ways have a specific task and that is to get you from A to B in the shortest time legally, something UK car drivers seem to have a problem understanding. A dawdling car on a dual carriageway is than overtaken by a HGV which then slows down everybody, the problem is then compounded when the dozy car driver wakes up and puts his foot down when you are halfway past him. Doesn’t happen on the continent and the traffic generally flows much better which then helps to curb some of the other bad habits as people seem to be less stressed, The Peripherique being a notable exception.
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i do love the peripherique when it is " fluid"…especially when the suicide scooter jockeys split lanes willy nilly at 50 mph when all the traffic is doing 10 mph…obviously by putting their hazard lights on makes them immune to harm.
Driven on it a few times in a car and a few times riding a motorbike but never in a truck. Not for the faint hearted for sure. Need to keeps your wits about you however saying that I like the French style of driving. They don’t hog lanes or they did not used to but maybe times have changed as they do?
Wheel Nut:
Braking on a motorway before you reach the sliproad, that is your braking zone!
Driving with a duff headlight.
You missed the one where they overtake you just before the slip road, left hand indicator whilst along side and braking has they pull into your stopping distance, you look in the mirror and there’s no vehicle behind you but they have to get in front.
