You wrong CF !
Anglo Saxons were not english either ! They were bunch of euro invaders , swivel eyed with religious tosh .
True english are the people who were here before Romans : the Pagan Celts
Ste46:
The EU didn’t wipe out our coal mining industryThe EU didn’t decimate our steel industry - the Chinese and the Indians did - neither of them in the EU
The EU didn’t decimate our commercial vehicle manufacturers
The EU didn’t decimate our motor industry - we managed to do that ourselves - remember Red Robbo et al?
Steve
Feel free to provide the figures for Chinese coal imports between 1973-84. 
While you’ve conveniently forgot European coal imports subject to much larger state investment and price subsidies than ours.
Or better paid German workers having got a far better deal out of the post war recovery stitch up.In which case they didn’t need to strike.
While if it wasn’t the EU that did it how do you explain the figure of EU imports forming 96% of our trade deficit within two years of joining the scam and that deficit having doubled in a matter of 6 months during 1973/4.Or for that matter the figure of £ 46 billion just with Germany alone which is higher than that with China.
Ste46:
The EU didn’t wipe out our coal mining industryThe EU didn’t decimate our steel industry - the Chinese and the Indians did - neither of them in the EU
The EU didn’t decimate our commercial vehicle manufacturers
The EU didn’t decimate our motor industry - we managed to do that ourselves - remember Red Robbo
et al?Steve
I said assisted in the demise of industries
We can’t burn coal to produce electricity it’s an EU directive
We can’t impose tariffs on imported steel as its against EU rules
We can’t manufacture packet of 10s cigarettes or rolling tobacco under 30g
No more 12.5g or 25g packets of rolling tobacco
We can’t manufacture menthol cigarettes anymore all this from May 2016
Surprise surprise another EU directive
Euro 1 2 and 3 regulations contributed in the demise of commercial vehicle engine/transmission manufacturing in the UK
Red Robbo didn’t work at Ford Vauxhall Talbot or any other car manufacturer other than BL
boredwivdrivin:
You wrong CF !Anglo Saxons were not english either ! They were bunch of euro invaders , swivel eyed with religious tosh .
True english are the people who were here before Romans : the Pagan Celts
To be fair as part Celt myself the Celts originated in the Germanic lands of the Alpine foothills but the Anglo Saxons made a better of job of nation building as to who we are and the country we belong to and gave us our industrial know how.IE English by definition means Anglo Saxon not Celt.The relevant bit being better Anglo Saxon than Roman or Plantagenet and now the East Euro invader Merkel’s federalist ideologies. 
gazsa401:
We can’t burn coal to produce electricity it’s an EU directive
We can’t impose tariffs on imported steel as its against EU rules
Euro 1 2 and 3 regulations contributed in the demise of commercial vehicle engine/transmission manufacturing in the UK
Red Robbo didn’t work at Ford Vauxhall Talbot or any other car manufacturer other than BL
Red Robbo didn’t work at Jaguar Rover Triumph either or Rolls Royce.Absolutely you can’t have a wagon with a US design based Brit manufactured engine/driveline in it if you want one.Who gains from that oh wait ze Germans and the Swedes adding yet more to our EU trade deficit.
Aqueduct 
" Splitters " !!!
Oh another one to consider. Free trade. A European country had its potatoes subsidised because of the embargo on Russia… that country then flooded this country with the potatoes they had already been paid for and pushed prices down here. Nothing we could do. If we were in charge we could
Free trade agreement was good for me back in the 80’s, used to load bulk rice in Antwerp for Mistley in Essex only for it to be unloaded out of us and into a warehouse and then for it to be reloaded into us again to be taken back to the same mill at Antwerp. That went on for months on end. Good money to be made quite legally !
raymundo:
Free trade agreement was good for me back in the 80’s, used to load bulk rice in Antwerp for Mistley in Essex only for it to be unloaded out of us and into a warehouse and then for it to be reloaded into us again to be taken back to the same mill at Antwerp. That went on for months on end. Good money to be made quite legally !
What’s in the deal for the original seller assuming there was a lot more margin left in the value of the stuff. 
Sounds more like a typical Euro dodge to make the trade figures look better than they were.
Euro subsidy con.
Like Italians having olive plants in plant pots, shift them about then claim again
Pigs travelling over the border from Eire to Ulster and back, more Euro subsidy cons
G8YMW:
Euro subsidy con.
Like Italians having olive plants in plant pots, shift them about then claim again
Pigs travelling over the border from Eire to Ulster and back, more Euro subsidy cons
Taxation funded deliberate distortion of trade figures ?. Or to put it another way EU corruption.
We can’t burn coal to make electricity? Someone better tell the power stations providing 31% of our power then…
FTBlunder:
We can’t burn coal to make electricity? Someone better tell the power stations providing 31% of our power then…
The figure is reducing all the time as part of a programme of phasing out coal power by 2023.There were numerous plants scheduled for closure in 2015 thereby making UK coal production unviable.Meanwhile no surprise Poland is doing as it pleases in that regard with no EU sanctions taken against it.IE one rule for east euro and another for us.
The only thing the Romans messed up is the right hand driving, opposite of the whole of Europe 
Carryfast:
raymundo:
Free trade agreement was good for me back in the 80’s, used to load bulk rice in Antwerp for Mistley in Essex only for it to be unloaded out of us and into a warehouse and then for it to be reloaded into us again to be taken back to the same mill at Antwerp. That went on for months on end. Good money to be made quite legally !What’s in the deal for the original seller assuming there was a lot more margin left in the value of the stuff.
Sounds more like a typical Euro dodge to make the trade figures look better than they were.
Just good ole plain ‘export grants’ or whatever they were called then 
raymundo:
Carryfast:
Sounds more like a typical Euro dodge to make the trade figures look better than they were.Just good ole plain ‘export grants’ or whatever they were called then
As I said tax funded con to make the trade figures look a bit better than they were.
Dolph:
The only think the Romans messed up is the right hand driving, opposite of the whole of Europe
That isn’t how Boudicca saw it. 
Carryfast:
raymundo:
Carryfast:
Sounds more like a typical Euro dodge to make the trade figures look better than they were.Just good ole plain ‘export grants’ or whatever they were called then
As I said tax funded con to make the trade figures look a bit better than they were.
Nothing whatsoever to do with making the trade figures look better just plain milking the system for all they could.
So just for you I shall explain …
The goods were owned by the same person(s) at all stages of the operation.
Goods exported from Belgium to UK … got money as in export grant ! Understand so far?
Goods exported from UK to Belgium … got money as in export grant ! Still with me?
Goods exported from Belgium to UK … got money … etc etc etc ad infinitum
Carryfast:
FTBlunder:
We can’t burn coal to make electricity? Someone better tell the power stations providing 31% of our power then…The figure is reducing all the time as part of a programme of phasing out coal power by 2023.There were numerous plants scheduled for closure in 2015 thereby making UK coal production unviable.Meanwhile no surprise Poland is doing as it pleases in that regard with no EU sanctions taken against it.IE one rule for east euro and another for us.
You could argue then that’s more the fault of our government kow towing to the regs when obviously they aren’t enforced.
Although I could be wrong, haven’t actually researched it mind.
raymundo:
Carryfast:
As I said tax funded con to make the trade figures look a bit better than they were.Nothing whatsoever to do with making the trade figures look better
So just for you I shall explain …
The goods were owned by the same person(s) at all stages of the operation.
Goods exported from Belgium to UK … got money as in export grant ! Understand so far?
Goods exported from UK to Belgium … got money as in export grant ! Still with me?
Goods exported from Belgium to UK … got money … etc etc etc ad infinitum
The fact remains each time they are exported from UK to Belgium they count towards the value of exports to the EU that never were.Meanwhile the ‘real’ EU exports from them to us to us are flooding in with no balance in ‘real’ exports from us to them going back.