discoman:
still, his rubbish is in a commercial bag, no licence gets fined simple really …
I disagree.
When he got the bag he didn´t buy the bag, he bought a licence which lets him dispose of the bag, and rubbish contained therein, in a certain way not accessible to non licence holders.
If he chooses to use the bag for his own personal rubbish AND KEEP IT IN THE VAN, then there is no way he should be getting fined for using the bag for the purpose for which it was not designed.
And now my head hurts.
The point is it was a commercial bag, as previously stated not a private bin liner/tesco bag etc … he is a roofer, he would require a waste licence for carrying waste from his job, I am not up to speed on uk law since leaving, but tiles are waste or old wood etc … herewith lies the problem, he can’t prove it is personal waste and therefore is required to obtain said licence.
For example, He, could of claimed the monies back as part of his tax return, and could add 1£ per job to cover the cost … there is more to it than the media are letting on.
Just to play devils advocate. If he consistently used the bag to accumulate his personal rubbish ( pop bottles, food wrappers), then tipped the contents into his own bin and returned the bag to his van, he hasn’t disposed of commercial waste.
Whilst I agree that he must create commercial waste and if he does not have a waste license, it’s very suspicious, however I am uncomfortable that he is been done for something that may happen, rather than they can prove happens IYSWIM.
Indeed, I agree, but the bag on show was that the bag or rubbish in question … always 2 sides to a story and the media love to bash local governments.
chances are hed been pushing his luck on other matters -in my own area iv observed no end of fiddles and thieving of seemingly pointless stuff [such as sugar sachets ]by council employees. Someone decided to get one over on him to settle a score id wager
steviespain: The roofing contractor was driving through Chingford in North East London when he was pulled over by Waltham Forest Council workers.
Really?
They searched his vehicle
What■■?
A Waltham Forest Council spokesman said: 'The waste in this case was being transported in commercial refuse bag in the trader’s vehicle. 'Regardless of what the items are, if waste is being stored in a commercial refuse bag in a trader’s van it is necessary that they have a valid waste carriers’ license (sic)
Ok fair play, you jobsworth [zb] [zb] [zb] [zb] of a useless [zb] [zb].
And there´s no way they should have been allowed to search his van. That ■■■■■!
I would like to no where a civil enforcement officer has the power to pull a moving vehicle … I do not recall any council employee having. Said powers.
Moving or not they do not have powers to search your van. End of.
alamcculloch:
My local [zb] now want to charge for grass clippings in a brown bin. I now put some house hold waste in litter bins and grass in my general waste bin.
We have one of those wheelie bins for garden waste… £60/annum. Weigh it up against going to the tip regular and it probably works out about the same. And talking about trade waste, we’re having some work done in our garden…small block wall was taken down and loaded into the boot…off I go, rock up at the gate… Polish fella stops me and asks what I’ve got in the back…'some blocks and a bit of rubble (this is in a 56 reg Fiesta so not a lot on board due to weight)… told me I’d have to pay £9.20 as it’s classed as trade waste!!
What makes that bag ‘commercial’ ? It looks like a regular rubbish bag we have in our house Maybe it says ‘commercial’ on the outside so he should have turned it inside out
Maybe it says ‘commercial’ on the outside so he should have turned it inside out 
