We're in the wrong job

Just been reading a rabble-rousing piece in the Times about tube drivers’ pay. Apparently their basic salary is over £50k pa (with many earning £70k-£100k), with 8.5 weeks’ annual leave, free travel (2 x passes, themselves worth around £3.5k each…) and a final salary pension at age 60. They also apparently work 36 hours, for a five day week.

Cue the “Wouldn’t get out of bed for that money” comments…

London tube drivers are on 100k from what I’ve read. I’ve applied twice to be a train driver, once to ScotRail and once to freightliner. I’ve never had any joy though.

I really don’t know why it isn’t some computer driving them, surely it would be easier to have a self driving train than a self driving car/truck.

You’re reading the wrong arsewipe, the ones read by the chattering classes are headlining their earnings as £100,000 pa, much to the annoyance of disgusted from Tunbridge Wells who is green with envy and doesn’t think it right that any of the hoi poloi should earn more than minimum wage. The headline of course aways sells the rag and it is not until you get into the text that you discover that not only are the highest earnings limited to instructors and other top grade drivers, but the figure includes all the bonuses and the employer’s pension contributions.

I know there on good money same as train drivers.

Only problem is it’s a closed shop. Got know the right people to get in there.
Plus not many vacancies as if your in there on a good job it’s highly unlikely your Gona leave unless your forced out.

To be honest I’m surprised the tube hasn’t become driverless automatic

edd1974:
I know there on good money same as train drivers.

Only problem is it’s a closed shop. Got know the right people to get in there.
Plus not many vacancies as if your in there on a good job it’s highly unlikely your Gona leave unless your forced out.

To be honest I’m surprised the tube hasn’t become driverless automatic

Go to london and get on the DLR.

The driverless trains exist - with the right tracks and infrastructure. The unions quite rightly are stopping their further role out.

Good on them, pity our industry can’t get its act together and unite to fight for better pay and conditions.

Night-and-day:
Good on them, pity our industry can’t get its act together and unite to fight for better pay and conditions.

+1.

cav551:
You’re reading the wrong arsewipe, the ones read by the chattering classes are headlining their earnings as £100,000 pa, much to the annoyance of disgusted from Tunbridge Wells who is green with envy and doesn’t think it right that any of the hoi poloi should earn more than minimum wage. The headline of course aways sells the rag and it is not until you get into the text that you discover that not only are the highest earnings limited to instructors and other top grade drivers, but the figure includes all the bonuses and the employer’s pension contributions.

Whichever way you cut it, a basic salary (once qualified, which takes a few months) of a little over £50k for a 36 hour week, with over 8 week’s holiday is really rather good…

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The tube trains that have the doors line up with the platform screen are mostly automated, but they do fail so require a driver. It’s heavily unionised which is how they get the money they’re on, but the tube is a very unhealthy environment with being stuck in a tunnel all day and through pollution which can’t escape. There’s also the fact that people tend to throw themselves in front of them and there’s nothing they can do to avoid it. On the whole, I can live comfortably as a driver but I wouldn’t take the extra money for the downsides of driving a tube train.

Well at least you cannot call them steering whell attendants :grimacing:

Roymondo:
Whichever way you cut it, a basic salary (once qualified, which takes a few months) of a little over £50k for a 36 hour week, with over 8 week’s holiday is really rather good…

It’s a strange old world when a salary which wouldn’t come anywhere near to buying a two-bedroomed house in London with a mortgage of 3.5x salary is described as “rather good”.

Harry Monk:

Roymondo:
Whichever way you cut it, a basic salary (once qualified, which takes a few months) of a little over £50k for a 36 hour week, with over 8 week’s holiday is really rather good…

It’s a strange old world when a salary which wouldn’t come anywhere near to buying a two-bedroomed house in London with a mortgage of 3.5x salary is described as “rather good”.

Who the hell in their right mind would want to live in the shizzlehole that is London anyway ■■?

raymundo:

Harry Monk:

Roymondo:
Whichever way you cut it, a basic salary (once qualified, which takes a few months) of a little over £50k for a 36 hour week, with over 8 week’s holiday is really rather good…

It’s a strange old world when a salary which wouldn’t come anywhere near to buying a two-bedroomed house in London with a mortgage of 3.5x salary is described as “rather good”.

Who the hell in their right mind would want to live in the shizzlehole that is London anyway ■■?

I wouldn’t but I guess if you are a tube train driver it’s pretty much a requirement.

sammym:

edd1974:
I know there on good money same as train drivers.

Only problem is it’s a closed shop. Got know the right people to get in there.
Plus not many vacancies as if your in there on a good job it’s highly unlikely your Gona leave unless your forced out.

To be honest I’m surprised the tube hasn’t become driverless automatic

Go to london and get on the DLR.

The driverless trains exist - with the right tracks and infrastructure. The unions quite rightly are stopping their further role out.

On health and safety grounds? Or because it puts people out of work?

Harry Monk:

raymundo:
Who the hell in their right mind would want to live in the shizzlehole that is London anyway ■■?

I wouldn’t but I guess if you are a tube train driver it’s pretty much a requirement.

I bet it’s not. And those free travel passes will come in very handy for the commuting…

Roymondo:
Just been reading a rabble-rousing piece in the Times about tube drivers’ pay. Apparently their basic salary is over £50k pa (with many earning £70k-£100k), with 8.5 weeks’ annual leave, free travel (2 x passes, themselves worth around £3.5k each…) and a final salary pension at age 60. They also apparently work 36 hours, for a five day week.

Cue the “Wouldn’t get out of bed for that money” comments…

I was listening to a radio discussion about this article today and the number of tube drivers earning the £70k-£100k is actually NINE. They earn that amount as they are test drivers and take out trains onto new tracks etc. I’ve a mate who was actually a train driver manager on the underground (he retired this year) and the money is certainly good but what’s wrong with that. Whatever you think of the RMT they stand up for the members and get them a good wage.

albion:

sammym:

edd1974:
I know there on good money same as train drivers.

Only problem is it’s a closed shop. Got know the right people to get in there.
Plus not many vacancies as if your in there on a good job it’s highly unlikely your Gona leave unless your forced out.

To be honest I’m surprised the tube hasn’t become driverless automatic

Go to london and get on the DLR.

The driverless trains exist - with the right tracks and infrastructure. The unions quite rightly are stopping their further role out.

On health and safety grounds? Or because it puts people out of work?

Health and safety grounds don’t appear so important on the DLR albion…

Or on any of these: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_a … ay_systems

As I’ve said I think the infrastructure would need improving on the underground. Although I’m no expert.

And I have no problem with the unions protecting their members jobs. It’s what they are there to do. I was just responding to someone who said he was surprised it hadn’t become driverless.

Rezzie:

Roymondo:
Just been reading a rabble-rousing piece in the Times about tube drivers’ pay. Apparently their basic salary is over £50k pa (with many earning £70k-£100k), with 8.5 weeks’ annual leave, free travel (2 x passes, themselves worth around £3.5k each…) and a final salary pension at age 60. They also apparently work 36 hours, for a five day week.

Cue the “Wouldn’t get out of bed for that money” comments…

I was listening to a radio discussion about this article today and the number of tube drivers earning the £70k-£100k is actually NINE. They earn that amount as they are test drivers and take out trains onto new tracks etc. I’ve a mate who was actually a train driver manager on the underground (he retired this year) and the money is certainly good but what’s wrong with that. Whatever you think of the RMT they stand up for the members and get them a good wage.

You must have misheard (or they mis-stated) the position - the number of drivers earning over £70k is not nine, but ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY NINE. The top nine all got more than £100k. Oh - and for the avoidance of doubt I didn’t say there was anything wrong with them being paid that much…

In tonight’s paper :laughing:

citycat:
In tonight’s paper :laughing:

Now let me think, which overpaid hypocrit edits that rag :smiling_imp: