Welsh Border and Mid Wales Hauliers 1950's onwards

[pete_smith]

Retired Old ■■■■:
I seem to recall reading that Peake’s at Maesbury were the main users of the Montgomery Canal back in the days before any of us were born. My late father-in-law was one of the movers in starting the restoration of the “Monty” and his ashes are buried next to the towing path at one of the locks.
It’s asking too much to expect that anyone has photos of narrow boats on the Montgomery, this being a lorry drivers’ site?

Morning ROF,
I have some books on the Montgomery canal with a photo of Peate’s narrowboat, I think that Peates were the last to use the Monty commercially and when the aquaduct collapsed over the river Perry it put a stop to that, 1934 ish, I have walked a fair bit of the Monty and traced a couple of the long gone branches off it, will have a look at weekend for that book and scan a pic for you, Cheer’s Pete

[pete_smith]

ianto:
It must have been late 80s early 90s when i was carrying out of there i know that Oswestry Waste Paper were also using some of the buildings for storage it was around the time that R A Owen of Llandinam bought the the Scania p93 six wheeler bulk blower

Here is Photo of it ianto, its one of Dave’s photo’s from earlier in this thread, I’m sure Owens still have this motor, Cheer’s Pete

[saviem]

Morning all,

Pete, ROF, I have strong ties to the Montgomery, and the whole Shropshire Union system. My Great Grandfather had three pairs of boats on the Chester Canal, then in 1886 he cought his leg between the bridgehole and a boat. His leg was taken off at Netley Hospital, (where Florence Nightingale once worked). They drugged him with Irish Whisky to dull the pain…turned him into an alcoholic, and eventually he lost his boats. The last pair being the Cato, and the Dorothy.

My Grandfather Jack Musson began working at Telfords warehouses in Ellesmere Port, then crewed Fly Boats on the run to Welshpool, Shrewsbury and Newtown. 1900 he was on the “Company Packet”, the Directors inspection boat based at Ellesmere. He met my Grandmother when laid over at Peats at Maesbury with one of the Fly Boats. Her parents owned the Navigation at Maesbury. They were married from the Iron Lock at Beeston in 1906.

They took over at Autherley Junction as Clerk, and Horse Keeper, (a Husband and Wife role), in 1908, and were there up until 1926.

A new book has been published, Shropshire Union Fly Boats, which would appear to have a fair bit of information about the Monty, although as a caution, (and I only flicked through it in a book shop), the time frames related, as well as some details would appear to be jumbled. (Forgive me if that sounds churlish, but historic accuracy is vital as we look back).

Apologies to introduce canals onto a lorry thread, but anyone who knows the Oswestry area, would know that the hauliers in that area sprang from a lot of the businesses along the canal…and Railway as well.

I spent many happy hours around Maesbury with the late Trevor Morris, and Russell and Gordon Cadwallader, though today the area is barely recognisable from the farms that were once there…Can hardly credit how I used to pull the stop on a Gardner Atkinson, and coasted into Trevors farm at Morda, ......so Russell could not hear the distinctive bark......and play hell with me for letting Trevor have one of, "his" Atkinsons.....(though Trevor would have Kirkstall back ends, and Russell, always Eaton 18802 two speeds)!.........Then when Ted Jones started with the vans........Russell was straight round to warn if he acquired any Atkinsons that would be the end!!!!!!!......luckily Ted had some Scanias off ■■■■ Phillips…used to enjoy a drink with him in the Three Pigeons…and laugh at the antics of our, “clients”…

Cheerio for now.

[pete_smith]

Morning Saviem,
The Three Pidgeon’s at Nescliffe?
The canals were the motorways of their time! As you say a lot of hauliers started with canal transport, Owens from Pant wharf on the Monty and Joseph Holloways from Oldbury are two that springs to mind, Cheer’s Pete ps. I have some books on the Monty and Shroppie Saviem, I will dig them out and drop them in to our librarian!

[retired_old_fart]

pete smith:

Retired Old ■■■■:
I seem to recall reading that Peake’s at Maesbury were the main users of the Montgomery Canal back in the days before any of us were born. My late father-in-law was one of the movers in starting the restoration of the “Monty” and his ashes are buried next to the towing path at one of the locks.
It’s asking too much to expect that anyone has photos of narrow boats on the Montgomery, this being a lorry drivers’ site?

Morning ROF,
I have some books on the Montgomery canal with a photo of Peate’s narrowboat, I think that Peates were the last to use the Monty commercially and when the aquaduct collapsed over the river Perry it put a stop to that, 1934 ish, I have walked a fair bit of the Monty and traced a couple of the long gone branches off it, will have a look at weekend for that book and scan a pic for you, Cheer’s Pete

Many thanks, Pete. Yet another chance to practice your recently acquired scanning skills!

[oiltreader]

One or two, thanks to Richard for sharing.
Oily

[retired_old_fart]

Thanks to Saviem for yet another insight into our industrial heritage. It never ceases to amaze me how a mention of some little memory can elicit such fascinating pieces of history from other members.

[tastrucker]

pete smith:

tastrucker:
Hello Dai , thank you for your reply , now i can understand wht i have seen so many H J Leas around Prees , . Do you remember A Peates from Maesbrook Oswestry ? they had quite a few wagons on bulk feed , Trevor .

Morning Trevor,
Here is a Peter Davies photo of A A Peate’s, it was new to J N Miller of Wolverhampton, Peates bought it when it was 12 years old, when Peates finished Miller’s bought it back and it was cut up for scrap by my Father, Cheer’s Pete

Hello pete and thank you very much for this lovely picture , Where do you get them from ? Such a lot of interest in Peates they were indeed next to the canal . Does any one remember there Guy 8 warrier bulker , and i believe they had a Atkinson 6 bulker as well .
Also that has come to light due to this Shropshire interest Ron Scott from near by Treflach also hauled out of Peates as did another bulk haulier i think was J Thomas whose address was Gibralter inn Trefonen, thank you Trevor .

[charliemjp]

kingswinford kit:

charliemjp:

kingswinford kit:
Jabez Barker ,must have had a driver based at Glasbury on Wye , an AEC Mandator was usually parked up in a layby just below the old railway bridge .
They may have worked into the sawmills at Newbridge along with Treeharvesting , regards Keith .

how are you KEITH the driver on jebez barker at glazbury was Mick MURROW . when they finished he came to Parrys bayston hill, cheers Charlie

Hey charlie ,long time no hear , hope you are ok . Always remember Parrys loading at British tissues , Did that double drive Mammoth major ever venture down to S Wales ? ,regards Keith .

always left the double drive on cattle keith take weight better, I have been back at work about 3 months had a op last nov , a valve was getting narrower so of to stoke. I swopped jobs and worked the feeds mill for 2 months when they stopped me driving , I have been back on road 3 months.

[dave_the_renegade]

Well here is my Favourite photo of me and Dave he is now not far from me and Archie who we both miss him loads . But atleast he is in with his Brother now at peace . R.I.P Dave the Renegade ■■

[barrywaddy]

Lovely picture only new Dave from T/Net ,he was always down to earth ,RIP Dave , Cheers Barry

[rigsby]

Dave the Renegade:
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Well here is my Favourite photo of me and Dave he is now not far from me and Archie who we both miss him loads . But atleast he is in with his Brother now at peace . R.I.P Dave the Renegade ■■

What a super photo of you and dave , you look so content together . while you have your photos , in the years to come they will be a comfort to you , always there to remind you of the times you had together . Good luck for the future and keep your chin up , regards , Dave

[kingswinford_kit]

rigsby:

Dave the Renegade:
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Well here is my Favourite photo of me and Dave he is now not far from me and Archie who we both miss him loads . But atleast he is in with his Brother now at peace . R.I.P Dave the Renegade ■■

What a super photo of you and dave , you look so content together . while you have your photos , in the years to come they will be a comfort to you , always there to remind you of the times you had together . Good luck for the future and keep your chin up , regards , Dave

Nothin

[kingswinford_kit]

kingswinford kit:

rigsby:

Dave the Renegade:
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Well here is my Favourite photo of me and Dave he is now not far from me and Archie who we both miss him loads . But atleast he is in with his Brother now at peace . R.I.P Dave the Renegade ■■

What a super photo of you and dave , you look so content together . while you have your photos , in the years to come they will be a comfort to you , always there to remind you of the times you had together . Good luck for the future and keep your chin up , regards , Dave

Nothin

Nothing more to add to that , except Dave would always have a kindly face ! best regards Tracy , Keith .

[tonyb70]

Lovely photo Tracy
I’m sure you have many happy memories sat by the side of Dave travelling the country taking all the great photos you have been kind enough to share with us.

Just over a year ago since me and the father in law met you both at cosford.
Was lovely meeting you both,
Regards Tony b

[tonyb70]

Lovely photo Tracy
I’m sure you have many happy memories sat by the side of Dave travelling the country taking all the great photos you have been kind enough to share with us.

Just over a year ago since me and the father in law met you both at cosford.
Was lovely meeting you both,
Regards Tony b

[pete_smith]

tastrucker:

pete smith:

tastrucker:
Hello Dai , thank you for your reply , now i can understand wht i have seen so many H J Leas around Prees , . Do you remember A Peates from Maesbrook Oswestry ? they had quite a few wagons on bulk feed , Trevor .

Morning Trevor,
Here is a Peter Davies photo of A A Peate’s, it was new to J N Miller of Wolverhampton, Peates bought it when it was 12 years old, when Peates finished Miller’s bought it back and it was cut up for scrap by my Father, Cheer’s Pete

Hello pete and thank you very much for this lovely picture , Where do you get them from ? Such a lot of interest in Peates they were indeed next to the canal . Does any one remember there Guy 8 warrier bulker , and i believe they had a Atkinson 6 bulker as well .
Also that has come to light due to this Shropshire interest Ron Scott from near by Treflach also hauled out of Peates as did another bulk haulier i think was J Thomas whose address was Gibralter inn Trefonen, thank you Trevor .

Morning Trevor,
Here is photo of the same Albion when Miller’s owned it, I seem to remember my Dad telling me that Peates and Millers had a good working relationship and that Peates may have also ran a Beardmore outfit? but my Dad has passed away so its over to you lads!! Cheer’s Pete

[pete_smith]

Retired Old ■■■■:

pete smith:

Retired Old ■■■■:
I seem to recall reading that Peake’s at Maesbury were the main users of the Montgomery Canal back in the days before any of us were born. My late father-in-law was one of the movers in starting the restoration of the “Monty” and his ashes are buried next to the towing path at one of the locks.
It’s asking too much to expect that anyone has photos of narrow boats on the Montgomery, this being a lorry drivers’ site?

Morning ROF,
I have some books on the Montgomery canal with a photo of Peate’s narrowboat, I think that Peates were the last to use the Monty commercially and when the aquaduct collapsed over the river Perry it put a stop to that, 1934 ish, I have walked a fair bit of the Monty and traced a couple of the long gone branches off it, will have a look at weekend for that book and scan a pic for you, Cheer’s Pete

Many thanks, Pete. Yet another chance to practice your recently acquired scanning skills!

Morning ROF,
I’ve not had chance to get up loft and look for the books but if you google “tonycanalpics” and go to west midlands you will find a load of photogarphs of the Monty and every other canal!! Cheer’s Pete

[dave_the_renegade]

tonyb70:
Lovely photo Tracy
I’m sure you have many happy memories sat by the side of Dave travelling the country taking all the great photos you have been kind enough to share with us.

Just over a year ago since me and the father in law met you both at cosford.
Was lovely meeting you both,
Regards Tony b

Yes we did meet you at Cosford remember it well . And now i do miss taking lorry photos as i have taken so many it seems strange just passing them now .

[pete_smith]

A great picture of Dave! and one of ABE’s took at Gaydon,