Welsh Border and Mid Wales Hauliers 1950's onwards

Muckaway:

Dave the Renegade:

Retired Old ■■■■:
There’s a smart outfit, Dave. I wonder why he went with the tag axle?

He sometimes does curtainsider work as well Casey. Don’t know if that makes much difference. I didn’t drive artics, only rigids.
Cheers Dave.

It might be for climbing onto ramped weighbridges, Dave. If the ramp’s wet it’s common to see drivers raise the axle up. Speaking as a humble class 2 driver who still hasn’t got around to doing class 1. :laughing:


Quite a few have tag axles, as Nathan says, probably better for extra traction. As with Phill Preece Scania.
Cheers Dave.

hiya,
Pity those tag axles weren’t fitted in the old days to rigid 6s and 8s that were
lumbered with the dreaded trailing axles would certainly have been a boon to
traction in snowy and rough terrain conditions I’d have gladly tested them.
thanks harry, long retired.

harry_gill:
hiya,
Pity those tag axles weren’t fitted in the old days to rigid 6s and 8s that were
lumbered with the dreaded trailing axles would certainly have been a boon to
traction in snowy and rough terrain conditions I’d have gladly tested them.
thanks harry, long retired.

Didn’t you have double drive Harry, some wagons in my era had diff locks and cross locks which helped with traction. I suppose the older six and eight wheelers had trailing axles.
Cheers Dave.

Dave the Renegade:

harry_gill:
hiya,
Pity those tag axles weren’t fitted in the old days to rigid 6s and 8s that were
lumbered with the dreaded trailing axles would certainly have been a boon to
traction in snowy and rough terrain conditions I’d have gladly tested them.
thanks harry, long retired.

Didn’t you have double drive Harry, some wagons in my era had diff locks and cross locks which helped with traction. I suppose the older six and eight wheelers had trailing axles.
Cheers Dave.

hiya,
Thankfully most of the 8s I drove had double drive but have had the odd
motor with the trailing axle I didn’t like them, but from the guvnor’s and
the fleet engineer’s point the single diffs weren’t quite as prone to wear.
thanks harry, long retired.


Coating plant arriving at The Gore quarry Radnoshire in the 1970’s.

Now being dismantled after non use for 12 years.


A Mercedes artic, seen on the A44 at Barons Cross, Leominster.

The Gore has changed a bit since I was last in there Dave, around 1995 I would think? The tar plants have all gone from the quarries around here, Tarmac/Lafarge at Dene, (now closed completely), and Ballidon, (still do stone and powders), Shining Bank (Cemex, all gone) Ivonbrook (Agg Industries)gone, plus the stone quarries at Crich and Milltown are closed completely. Still a few open around Buxton, plus Renishaw coating plant just off the M1 junction 30, but not much in this area nowadays. :cry: If you wanted a barrow load of tarmac nowadays you would have a long push!

Pete.

Unless you have an account, you can’t buy anything off these quarries this way Pete. Not many of the hauliers can do ex quarry loads nowadays, unless they material through a merchant. Had a whisper that these that own them are going to be floated. Fancy buying a few shares. :laughing:
Cheers Dave.

Dave the Renegade:
Unless you have an account, you can’t buy anything off these quarries this way Pete. Not many of the hauliers can do ex quarry loads nowadays, unless they material through a merchant. Had a whisper that these that own them are going to be floated. Fancy buying a few shares. :laughing:
Cheers Dave.

Much the same here Dave, when I used to do ex works stuff 12+ years ago I went through a stone merchant. Oh and no, I don’t want any shares, thank’s for the offer though!

Pete.

Dave the Renegade:

Muckaway:

Dave the Renegade:

Retired Old ■■■■:
There’s a smart outfit, Dave. I wonder why he went with the tag axle?

He sometimes does curtainsider work as well Casey. Don’t know if that makes much difference. I didn’t drive artics, only rigids.
Cheers Dave.

It might be for climbing onto ramped weighbridges, Dave. If the ramp’s wet it’s common to see drivers raise the axle up. Speaking as a humble class 2 driver who still hasn’t got around to doing class 1. :laughing:


Quite a few have tag axles, as Nathan says, probably better for extra traction. As with Phill Preece Scania.
Cheers Dave.

there is still time to do your class one dave.

gah1950:

Dave the Renegade:

Muckaway:

Dave the Renegade:

Retired Old ■■■■:
There’s a smart outfit, Dave. I wonder why he went with the tag axle?

He sometimes does curtainsider work as well Casey. Don’t know if that makes much difference. I didn’t drive artics, only rigids.
Cheers Dave.

It might be for climbing onto ramped weighbridges, Dave. If the ramp’s wet it’s common to see drivers raise the axle up. Speaking as a humble class 2 driver who still hasn’t got around to doing class 1. :laughing:


Quite a few have tag axles, as Nathan says, probably better for extra traction. As with Phill Preece Scania.
Cheers Dave.

there is still time to do your class one dave.

I will give it a miss Graham, would have done it, but had the RTA first. Have driven a Guy Warrior artic loaded with scrap steel,out onto the road and then reversed it into the garage, quite legally, as the HGV licence was just coming in, and my little red licence hadn’t run out, so it was legal to drive anything at the time.
Cheers Dave.

Do they not do coating out of the Gore then Dave? Sounds a bit like Hansons’; Shut a coating plant at a quarry, then mothball the quarry at another coating plant and run the stuff by road between the two.
:unamused:

Muckaway:
Do they not do coating out of the Gore then Dave? Sounds a bit like Hansons’; Shut a coating plant at a quarry, then mothball the quarry at another coating plant and run the stuff by road between the two.
:unamused:

The Gore used to do a lot of tarmac and pre- coated chippings etc. Since they all came under the Tarmac banner, all the tarmac is done from Dolyhir/Strinds quarries which are about a mile away.
Cheers Dave.


Fleet flag ship at work.


A Daf CF,seen coming up Bridge Street in Leominster.


A Breedon mixer, seen at the Bargates, Leominster.

Dave the Renegade:

Muckaway:
Do they not do coating out of the Gore then Dave? Sounds a bit like Hansons’; Shut a coating plant at a quarry, then mothball the quarry at another coating plant and run the stuff by road between the two.
:unamused:

The Gore used to do a lot of tarmac and pre- coated chippings etc. Since they all came under the Tarmac banner, all the tarmac is done from Dolyhir/Strinds quarries which are about a mile away.
Cheers Dave.

Don’t forget the thousands of tons of stone we used to haul all the way from Gore to Pershore coating plant.

Retired Old ■■■■:

Dave the Renegade:

Muckaway:
Do they not do coating out of the Gore then Dave? Sounds a bit like Hansons’; Shut a coating plant at a quarry, then mothball the quarry at another coating plant and run the stuff by road between the two.
:unamused:

The Gore used to do a lot of tarmac and pre- coated chippings etc. Since they all came under the Tarmac banner, all the tarmac is done from Dolyhir/Strinds quarries which are about a mile away.
Cheers Dave.

Don’t forget the thousands of tons of stone we used to haul all the way from Gore to Pershore coating plant.

They are hauling much more than that to the railway sidings at Moreton on Lugg, where several Train loads go from every week Casey.
Where it is sent all over the country.
Cheers Dave.

which quarry was it down your way that had a block plant dave ?i ask because when buxom lime industries took over from ici in the 80s they were sending cement from buxton . i only did the one load ( usually on lime tanks ) and followed a regular man down . i’m damned if i can remember what it was called but it was owned by minorco the same as buxton . cheers , dave

That’s a new one on me. Have they got a proper loading system built there or tipping in a pile for the loading shovel?
When we ran stone from Gore to West Drayton I was amazed at the number of complete trainloads of the stuff coming in from Foster Yeomans.