Welsh Border and Mid Wales Hauliers 1950's onwards

Retired Old ■■■■:

Dave the Renegade:

Muckaway:
Do they not do coating out of the Gore then Dave? Sounds a bit like Hansons’; Shut a coating plant at a quarry, then mothball the quarry at another coating plant and run the stuff by road between the two.
:unamused:

The Gore used to do a lot of tarmac and pre- coated chippings etc. Since they all came under the Tarmac banner, all the tarmac is done from Dolyhir/Strinds quarries which are about a mile away.
Cheers Dave.

Don’t forget the thousands of tons of stone we used to haul all the way from Gore to Pershore coating plant.

Pershore, or Pinvin to be correct! :open_mouth: Oh the hours I sat in there waiting to get loaded, all the civil contractors and pikies got loaded before they started on Tilcons own trucks, we took dust down from Ballidon and did a few loads of red tarmac across to Gaydon. Long days! Used to fetch chippings back to Ballidon from Gore as well, load at Ballidon for Walsall or Lichfield etc, sometimes collect sand from Hints and take that to Gore for the tar plant, load scalpings at Gore to the M5 widening near Strensham, back to Gore and then load chippings back to Ballidon! When you loaded at Gore it would be around 3 pm, you needed another 45 break and then you had a good 31/2 hours driving back North. Then half hour drive home in the car, no wonder we slept well! :unamused:

Pete.

I remember that PINVIN- couldn’t think of the name- had their own powder tank trailer which they would get one of us to haul fine dust to the quarry at Stowfield when it was full. The trick was to tell the manager it was full, weigh it out, then mosey along to Brian’s café for an hour or two before taking the whole thing back to Pinvin. They never used to tare the vehicle back in so a few days later it was time to do another load!
Of course, none of us would admit to actually carrying out this criminal act. :wink:

I always thought selling only to account customers was a better way to work. No cash handling, no pikies, no dozy diy’ers wandering around the quarry etc.

Retired Old ■■■■:
That’s a new one on me. Have they got a proper loading system built there or tipping in a pile for the loading shovel?
When we ran stone from Gore to West Drayton I was amazed at the number of complete trainloads of the stuff coming in from Foster Yeomans.

Yes Casey, they have it all set up with several artics hauling into there full time doing about five loads each every day,plus others hauling there it there’s nothing on. The have a gravel pit next door to the sidings.
Cheers Dave.

Dave the Renegade:

Coating plant arriving at The Gore quarry Radnoshire in the 1970’s.

Now being dismantled after non use for 12 years.

Hello dave what a nice old foden do you know who it belonged to ? by the way it should be known thast radnorshire stone is the best for roads , have always been told that . thank you Trevor

tastrucker:

Dave the Renegade:

Coating plant arriving at The Gore quarry Radnoshire in the 1970’s.

Now being dismantled after non use for 12 years.

Hello dave what a nice old foden do you know who it belonged to ? by the way it should be known thast radnorshire stone is the best for roads , have always been told that . thank you Trevor

Hi Trevor,
All I know about the Foden is what it says on the cab. Its high PSV grit-stone in the Gore. I don’t think there is as much granite in what they are extracting these days, but there’s still a lot of tonnage going out from there.
Cheers Dave.


Mike Hazel drives this one for the family firm.


A Daf LF, seen on the A44 near Leominster.


One of Bayliss Bros artics, seen on the A44 at Floodgates near Kington.


Mike Hazel’s motor,pic courtesy of Mike.


A M A N artic, seen on the A4112 at Whiehill near Weobley, Herefordshire.

Dave the Renegade:

A Mercedes artic, seen on the A44 at Barons Cross, Leominster.

Hello Dave,
Interesting comments about tag and trailing axles,all good in their own way ,Double Drive is another thing,they either get you out of trouble or they get you into more trouble in my experience, :laughing: .
Graham.

gah1950:

Dave the Renegade:

A Mercedes artic, seen on the A44 at Barons Cross, Leominster.

Hello Dave,
Interesting comments about tag and trailing axles,all good in their own way ,Double Drive is another thing,they either get you out of trouble or they get you into more trouble in my experience, :laughing: .
Graham.

I was talking to another TNUK member R500NUT today about them Graham, and he says similar to you, its down to preference,also the tag axle is better in his opinion as the drive axle set further forward on the unit.
Cheers Dave.


One of Mervyn Thomas hay & straw artics, seen on the A44 at Walton, Radnorshire.


Another of Mervyn Thomas artics, seen on the A44 near Kington.


One of Barry Morgan’s timber wagons, seen on the A44 between New Radnor and Radnor Forest.

Hello Dave,
Interesting comments about tag and trailing axles,all good in their own way ,Double Drive is another thing,they either get you out of trouble or they get you into more trouble in my experience, :laughing: .
Graham.
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I was talking to another TNUK member R500NUT today about them Graham, and he says similar to you, its down to preference,also the tag axle is better in his opinion as the drive axle set further forward on the unit.
Cheers Dave.
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I had experience with both set-ups, both on DAFs. My first was a 4X2 2800 onto which our mates at Rothdean had grafted a Granning lifting rear axle. It was marvellous getting out of sticky places but the ride when loaded wasn’t too good- very bumpy, as if the airbag pressure was too high.
On the other hand, the 310ATI with powder tank was a rear steer & lift DAF standard fitting and was more than adequate for sticky going as the air could be totally dumped from the second axle. It had a diff lock as well and I never managed to get it stuck, even in deep snow.

Retired Old ■■■■:
Hello Dave,
Interesting comments about tag and trailing axles,all good in their own way ,Double Drive is another thing,they either get you out of trouble or they get you into more trouble in my experience, :laughing: .
Graham.

I was talking to another TNUK member R500NUT today about them Graham, and he says similar to you, its down to preference,also the tag axle is better in his opinion as the drive axle set further forward on the unit.
Cheers Dave.
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I had experience with both set-ups, both on DAFs. My first was a 4X2 2800 onto which our mates at Rothdean had grafted a Granning lifting rear axle. It was marvellous getting out of sticky places but the ride when loaded wasn’t too good- very bumpy, as if the airbag pressure was too high.
On the other hand, the 310ATI with powder tank was a rear steer & lift DAF standard fitting and was more than adequate for sticky going as the air could be totally dumped from the second axle. It had a diff lock as well and I never managed to get it stuck, even in deep snow.
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As I said before, my knowledge of artics is only second hand. Unlike blokes like yourself, Graham and RS I haven’t had any experience of driving them. Even at my advanced age I’m always keen to hear the different thoughts and preferences.
Cheers Dave.

I definitely preferred the later one, Dave- uprated engine, 16-speed ZF box, night heater, double-glazing. And less that six months old when I got it. What’s not to like? :smiley: :smiley:

Retired Old ■■■■:
I definitely preferred the later one, Dave- uprated engine, 16-speed ZF box, night heater, double-glazing. And less that six months old when I got it. What’s not to like? :smiley: :smiley:

I never drove anything as grand as that Casey. :laughing:
Cheers Dave.