Well I wouldn't

Bluey Circles:
Interesting stuff, I did not know there was specifics. 0.8g seems very low figure. 56mph → 0 in 3.2secs or 40 metres. OK that is probably outwith the capabilities of most trucks, but if the heavy breaking involved a shunt then I suspect 0.8g would easily be exceeded.

We have to consider just how good the brakes of an HGV are. The heavier it is the less effective they are. The faster it goes the less effective they are. Experimentation has shown 0.8g is just about the best you’ll get from an HGV and that is dependant on circumstances. 0.8G is pretty high. Apparently an F1 car can generate around 5G under braking and cornering. A truck isn’t going to be anywhere near that and is very limited by tyres and ABS. As soon as tyres start letting go, ABS activates and the G force stops rising. Same with cornering, corner a truck too hard and it’ll slide or tip over so there’s a maximum G that will be generated.

When they do the dynamic tests for an ‘XL’ rated trailer they have to do a full on emergency stop at between 30 - 40 Kph and generate 0.8g. Go any faster you wouldn’t possibly reach that sort of G. Of course the DFT Code of practice says 1G (I forgot to mention that :blush: ) it is the European code that says 0.8G in a forward direction.

You mention a shunt. If an impact is involved all this goes out of the window as G forces could be much higher.

eddie snax:
It is 8 years since I did any curtainsider or flat work, but even then all the Paper Mills I loaded at, wouldn’t let you out, if the reels weren’t strapped to the standard that they expected, so I’m surprised but not shocked that there are drivers still going out with reels unsecured.

With regard to the load in the OP, though it was some 20 years ago when I was shown by our yard shunter, how to secure the concrete pads that we delivered, I’m happy that those methods would still stand firm today. They were in no way as techicaly researched as how you’ve explained it, and we did not load to the head board, and did not brace the load to the headboard, but I worked for that general haulier for 10 years, and they worked for that customer for all that period of time. I cant recall a single incident, where they shed any of that particular customers work, or remember hearing on the drivers grapevine, that driver A B or C had had a load shifted. I don’t believe that in at least 10 years, and many loads of concrete pads being transported, that if the standard of load security wasn’t good enough, that someone wouldn’t have come unstuck at one point.

I will concede to you, that there is a massive lack of understanding about load security, and this is possibly the fault of an industry, that doesn’t have the will to train drivers anymore. In this, I include having a yard shunter, who’d show you how to rope and sheet, the way the gaffer wanted it. I also include having in house workshops, where you could pick up useful knowledge about the mechanics of your truck, and how to put it right, on a quiet Wednesday, when you truck was being serviced.

Because of this, there is a need for something like the DCPC, and probably we’d get on all right, but I would have to disagree with you over this.

In most cases this technical ideal I talk about is only for that one off extreme situation where it all goes wrong. From what I hear on the news a wagon sheds a load almost daily - and how many don’t make the news.

From what I see on the road and in yards what most drivers do for load securing will be sufficient on most days, but I’d hate to work at a place where one of my colleagues dies doing the same job I do. Puts a whole new light on it for a while as it sinks in. It only takes that one set of circumstances to occur and that’s when the driver finds out the load CAN shift.

The standards I repeat parrot fashion are about that one set of circumstances and securing for that worst case. I guess it is all about the odds and stacking them in your favour.

As for the reels - I was very surprised to stand there and see reels loaded, curtains closed and driven away. I’m not going to mention names but it was a larg(ish) well known haulier. When I queried it at the site I was at they said “Not our problem mate. Drivers responsibility”. You are right though. Most places that send out reels, steel, concrete products etc usually have some kind of checking in place before you leave. Probably because they have already killed/maimed somebody previously.

alix776:
Does it matter if you wouldn’t take it did it fall off ■■? Honestly find a new hobby and concentrate on what your doing rather what others are

…until they involve you in their problem…

F-reds:

stuartrobbie:
Someone mentioned the headboard, looks like headboard is same height as cab with mesh inserts.

Headboard might as well not be there as only the bottom layer looks like its touching it. The rest has got several feet to accelerate under braking, before trying to join the driver in the cab.

At least if it is touching the headboard, it hasn’t got anywhere to speed up. Although the headboard alone is unlikely to be enough, but it would definately help considerably.

If it was up to headboard the unit would be overweight.

dc014m0342:
If it was up to headboard the unit would be overweight.

If that’s the case , then pack the load out to the headboard. Or use extra straps over the load if no suitable packing is available. The sticky up bit at the front of the trailer is there for a reason, use it.