Well I wouldn’t fancy hitting the brakes!
Couldn’t agree more.
Having just travelled up the M62 for an hour I reckon I counted at least 10 flat beds that I wouldn’t fancy being in if they had to brake hard. Seems it is the norm.
Would it be any safer in a c/sider? No, but I’ve seen similar or worse hidden behind the ragsides.
Beau Nydel:
Would it be any safer in a c/sider? No, but I’ve seen similar or worse hidden behind the ragsides.
I agree but sometimes I think drivers honestly believe when the curtains are closed the ‘load securing magnetic force field’ is activated (same one they use in the cargo hold on the Star Ship Enterprise and that withstands warp speed) and they believe it is safe.
With a flat surely the driver can see the load securing magnetic force field isn’t activated■■?
We all know what load securing is in use in most curtain sided vehicles - nothing or not enough. With flats I just don’t understand why the driver can’t see what I see.
What’s the problem there’s enough straps the only issue is that the top layer is above the head board so you’d take that in to account while driving its not like you could use a chain on it.
alix776:
What’s the problem there’s enough straps the only issue is that the top layer is above the head board so you’d take that in to account while driving its not like you could use a chain on it.
The ‘skids’ between each layer are taller than they are wide - they’d just fall over in a harsh braking manoeuvre because the straps do not exert enough downward force.
There a huge gap to the headboard as well.
As for the number of straps - what do you reckon that load weighs?
alix776:
What’s the problem there’s enough straps the only issue is that the top layer is above the head board so you’d take that in to account while driving its not like you could use a chain on it.
3 straps with no edge protection on that lot. No thanks.
alix776:
What’s the problem there’s enough straps the only issue is that the top layer is above the head board so you’d take that in to account while driving its not like you could use a chain on it.
Pure pish.
I trust that that photo was taken by your co-driver?
Does it matter if you wouldn’t take it did it fall off ■■? Honestly find a new hobby and concentrate on what your doing rather what others are
Glad I do boxes, so much judgement surrounding load security these days. We all know standards have slipped, but it’s an epidemic within the industry that reaches further than just load restraint. Most people use common sense, and I love seeing a poorly loaded trailer. It means I know what morons to steer clear of 
The judgement by people is based on a dangerously inadequately secured load that has huge potential to kill, either the driver if it comes through the cab or joe public if it comes off the side. Its crap loading like this that gives us al a bad name, those straps would not even hold timber at that angle let alone 20t of concrete, madness to run like that.
MrH:
The judgement by people is based on a dangerously inadequately secured load that has huge potential to kill, either the driver if it comes through the cab or joe public if it comes off the side. Its crap loading like this that gives us al a bad name, those straps would not even hold timber at that angle let alone 20t of concrete, madness to run like that.
It’s not crap loading or securing that gives us a bad name it’s crap driving.
Why do some people seem to think that it’s the load securing that is the main reason of a load loss? It’s more likely to be how that load was driven than how it was secured.
It doesn’t mater how you try and swing it if you have cause to brake so severely that the load pictured would come through the cab even if it was completely unsecured then you shouldn’t be behind the wheel in the first place.
Reef:
MrH:
The judgement by people is based on a dangerously inadequately secured load that has huge potential to kill, either the driver if it comes through the cab or joe public if it comes off the side. Its crap loading like this that gives us al a bad name, those straps would not even hold timber at that angle let alone 20t of concrete, madness to run like that.It’s not crap loading or securing that gives us a bad name it’s crap driving.
Why do some people seem to think that it’s the load securing that is the main reason of a load loss? It’s more likely to be how that load was driven than how it was secured.
It doesn’t mater how you try and swing it if you have cause to brake so severely that the load pictured would come through the cab even if it was completely unsecured then you shouldn’t be behind the wheel in the first place.
Could not disagree more, you can drive like a nun and still have to stand on the brake pedal if a child ran out ect… Loads should be secured to withstand emergency braking without moving in this case if the driver had to do an emergency stop that load will be smashing into his cab and driving perfectly until that point won’t have any bearing at all, physics will take over and the result is then inevitable.
MrH:
Reef:
MrH:
The judgement by people is based on a dangerously inadequately secured load that has huge potential to kill, either the driver if it comes through the cab or joe public if it comes off the side. Its crap loading like this that gives us al a bad name, those straps would not even hold timber at that angle let alone 20t of concrete, madness to run like that.It’s not crap loading or securing that gives us a bad name it’s crap driving.
Why do some people seem to think that it’s the load securing that is the main reason of a load loss? It’s more likely to be how that load was driven than how it was secured.
It doesn’t mater how you try and swing it if you have cause to brake so severely that the load pictured would come through the cab even if it was completely unsecured then you shouldn’t be behind the wheel in the first place.
Could not disagree more, you can drive like a nun and still have to stand on the brake pedal if a child ran out ect… Loads should be secured to withstand emergency braking without moving in this case if the driver had to do an emergency stop that load will be smashing into his cab and driving perfectly until that point won’t have any bearing at all, physics will take over and the result is then inevitable.
Had this happen. Young girl in a car. Loads of opportunity, I thought she was waiting till I passed, then she just pulled out. Smallish heavy boxes with 2x4’s nailed underneath to get the forks under. All fell over. I got blamed (not in words, but they gave me some right dirty looks when I got back), and a forkie almost took my finger off.
I wasn’t driving particularly fast, I was looking ahead, and somebody else made a idiotic decision. It’s not always the driver.
the nodding donkey:
I trust that that photo was taken by your co-driver?
I was in a layby [emoji38]
alix776:
Does it matter if you wouldn’t take it did it fall off ■■? Honestly find a new hobby and concentrate on what your doing rather what others are
Here here. What with videos and pictures these days everyone seems to be permanently trying to trip others up.
happysack:
the nodding donkey:
I trust that that photo was taken by your co-driver?I was in a layby [emoji38]
Looks more like a slip road? 
Personally I would have put 2 or 3 straps at each end and skipped the one in the middle but then I only did about 16 years carrying stuff like that so what do I know.
Box jockey now so what do I care!
There is something in front of the main lintels though. Look at the strap. It comes up over something so maybe there is something there that will stop the load shooting forward. Still don’t like the idea of no edge protectors to stop the straps getting cut.