I’ve seen loads like that with 4 straps located where the timber bearers are ,so about 12 straps in total .
I’d do it that way but I’m sure most of our drivers would use 3 as in the pic 
Looks ok to me a would run with it does not matter how secure you make it can still come off.Does not matter what you do a load can still move and become a danger.
Just out of interest, what would satisfy someone in that scenario? I’d probably put one more across the 3 large sections and I’d be ok with it, assuming they’re 5 ton straps
Not lintels but floor sections. Each is about 1200 wide and will weigh about 2.5 to 3 tonne each. The strap at the front goes over a tonne bag of dry mix used to grout up after fixing. The middle strap will do very little as even though they are concrete you still get a bit of flex over that length hence the idea of multi strapping at each end near the bearers. But I’m a box jockey now…
happysack:
Well I wouldn’t fancy hitting the brakes!
agree with that,he would get it from both ends being close to the wagon in front
truckman020:
happysack:
Well I wouldn’t fancy hitting the brakes!
agree with that,he would get it from both ends being close to the wagon in front
The wagon in front was moving into his lane. He was going slow but the rigid was a lot faster.
Someone mentioned the headboard, looks like headboard is same height as cab with mesh inserts.
stuartrobbie:
Someone mentioned the headboard, looks like headboard is same height as cab with mesh inserts.
Headboard might as well not be there as only the bottom layer looks like its touching it. The rest has got several feet to accelerate under braking, before trying to join the driver in the cab.
At least if it is touching the headboard, it hasn’t got anywhere to speed up. Although the headboard alone is unlikely to be enough, but it would definately help considerably.
Beau Nydel:
Personally I would have put 2 or 3 straps at each end and skipped the one in the middle but then I only did about 16 years carrying stuff like that so what do I know.
Box jockey now so what do I care!
That’s how I do mine , sometimes I put 5 either end , very rarely put any in the middle unless there’s smaller pieces on top
Isn’t it 1x5t strap for every 2 1/2 ton in weight , that’s how I’ve always worked it
happysack:
Well I wouldn’t fancy hitting the brakes!
So what’s the problem it’s a load it’s secured you’re a driver deliver it,end of story,what’s wrong with you so called drivers.
alix776:
Does it matter if you wouldn’t take it did it fall off ■■? Honestly find a new hobby and concentrate on what your doing rather what others are
+1
MrH:
Reef:
MrH:
The judgement by people is based on a dangerously inadequately secured load that has huge potential to kill, either the driver if it comes through the cab or joe public if it comes off the side. Its crap loading like this that gives us al a bad name, those straps would not even hold timber at that angle let alone 20t of concrete, madness to run like that.It’s not crap loading or securing that gives us a bad name it’s crap driving.
Why do some people seem to think that it’s the load securing that is the main reason of a load loss? It’s more likely to be how that load was driven than how it was secured.
It doesn’t mater how you try and swing it if you have cause to brake so severely that the load pictured would come through the cab even if it was completely unsecured then you shouldn’t be behind the wheel in the first place.
Could not disagree more, you can drive like a nun and still have to stand on the brake pedal if a child ran out ect… Loads should be secured to withstand emergency braking without moving in this case if the driver had to do an emergency stop that load will be smashing into his cab and driving perfectly until that point won’t have any bearing at all, physics will take over and the result is then inevitable.
And don’t forget the sky might fall in.
alix776:
What’s the problem there’s enough straps the only issue is that the top layer is above the head board so you’d take that in to account while driving its not like you could use a chain on it.
I often alix see drivers using chains on it , often pick up out of bison and plenty use them , I’ve not myself but I can see the point in using them, if your allowed on tri you can get protectors on, but if you not allowed on tri it can be a nightmare even with load Angels
happysack:
Well I wouldn’t fancy hitting the brakes!
Now you can understand happysack why I had kittens when I started doing that stuff , I spent more time looking in the mirrors than ahead , a few straps on all the concrete had me coming out in a cold sweat , many a time I’d be chucking more straps over in the dead of night on the 66 as I was convinced I had enough .
Been up that way x 2 this week for a change
Old skool here. I’d have been roping (strapping) that to within an inch of it’s life.
Going back to the headboard thing, you don’t load tight to it cos you got to get the lifting straps on for the crane offload. Like I said multi straps at each end and the weight and friction does the rest. Only those who haven’t done it don’t understand.
It looks a lot worse than it is!
What about the drivers that pull logs to the sawmill.If they have three bundles on they only use 4 straps.Two over the front and 1 over the middle and 1 over the back thats seems to be fine when running about with it.
Beau Nydel:
the weight and friction does the rest. Only those who haven’t done it don’t understand.
It looks a lot worse than it is!
Weight cannot be relied on for securing a load or even keeping it where it is. The weight will be the bit you can’t stop moving once it starts.
As for friction - concrete to wood I reckon maybe 0.3 or 0.4. That means the friction will only resist sliding of around 30%-40% of the weight. Under braking a G force of around 0.6 or 0.7 is realistically possible, higher in a complete emergency stop on good dry grippy ground. Cornering can generate 0.3 easily… maybe 0.4 or 0.5 if its a sudden panick swerve. That’s enough to overcome the static friction and once that happens the mass of the item will take over and the dynamic friction will be almost zero.
So … with a good driver with good observation and driving correctly I’d probably agree with you - but of course it isn’t always a good driver and it isn’t always possible to drive well because some other idiot is going to ruin your day and possibly cause you to have to brake or swerve.
I would rather work on the principal of securing it for the very worst outcome - an emergency stop or swerve, maybe on a road with adverse camber or on a steep hill. If the load is secured to withstand those situations it can never be a problem.
That’s why I wear a seatbelt - never needed it yet but it’s there just in case. I also wear all the protective gear on my motorbike … never needed it yet but one day someones gonna have a go at ruining that track record. (Almost on Tuesday night but I saw them coming 
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Oh … if it looks a lot worse than it is - that is more than likely because it is a lot worse than you think.
The standards could be improved in the photo but it’s not like it’s a load of steel is it ?