Acorn:
ag1992:
Is there any kind of time limit they can send these types of letters? Isn’t it 14 days for police so what’s the difference with these chancers?Sent from my SM-A217F using Tapatalk
Summary offence is to lay a summons within six months of offence and an NIP offence is quite specific and this isn’t one of them…
Ok thanks
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ag1992:
Punchy Dan:
ag1992:
rb1889:
Where was the road closed, if your delivery was on Via Gellia I’m confused how you’ve managed to go down West Bank (and presumably through Winster) and then back up 90 minutes later, when it’s in the opposite directionDelivery before was in pikehall, 5012 said closed no through route leading to via gellia so had to go towards village. Right turn down Moor Lane back towards via gallia was also closed. Came to 3t except for access so went through village as the traffic was heavy and I delivery point was just after the village. Went through village and back out this way. Would usually come in through via gellia up through matlock but even coming this way your going through 7.5t so what am I supposed to do [emoji85]
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You don’t make much sense and I live here .
What’s so hard to understand about via gellia being closed no through road and Moor Lane back to via gellia having the same signs up so couldn’t go back to via gellia. Normally we would go down via gellia through matlock and back up past the dfs warehouse but even this way is through a 7.5t limit. Better now?
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Think I get what you mean, and just for future reference in case you get up there again, you have 2 options to miss West Bank and the 3.5t limit. Instead of turning right down West Bank you could have carried on down B5056 and done a right onto Elton Road and through Winster that way, obviously still taking your through a 7.5t limit. Or followed the 5056 down to the A6 and back through Rowsley to Darley Dale and then to where ever you were delivering in the 7.5t limit from that end.
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Btw fill the form in as you don’t have a leg to stand on as when I looked in Google Maps street view the sign at the top of West Bank tells you the alternative route to miss the 3.5t limit
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Btw fill the form in as you don’t have a leg to stand on as when I looked in Google Maps street view the sign at the top of West Bank tells you the alternative route to miss the 3.5t limit
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The sign also says except for access, and if he had no other way in because of road closures, he would have this access, and therefore he would have two legs to stand on.
shullbit:
Btw fill the form in as you don’t have a leg to stand on as when I looked in Google Maps street view the sign at the top of West Bank tells you the alternative route to miss the 3.5t limit
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The sign also says except for access, and if he had no other way in because of road closures, he would have this access, and therefore he would have two legs to stand on.
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The road closure he was on about is a different one to the ones stated on the signs, and there was no reason for him not to follow the required route as stated on the sign at the top of West Bank.
Henrys cat:
shullbit:
Btw fill the form in as you don’t have a leg to stand on as when I looked in Google Maps street view the sign at the top of West Bank tells you the alternative route to miss the 3.5t limit
The sign also says except for access, and if he had no other way in because of road closures, he would have this access, and therefore he would have two legs to stand on.
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The road closure he was on about is a different one to the ones stated on the signs, and there was no reason for him not to follow the required route as stated on the sign at the top of West Bank.
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Agreed, looking at the map there are MANY alternative routes to get to the destination via the A6. 
shullbit:
Henrys cat:
shullbit:
Btw fill the form in as you don’t have a leg to stand on as when I looked in Google Maps street view the sign at the top of West Bank tells you the alternative route to miss the 3.5t limit
The sign also says except for access, and if he had no other way in because of road closures, he would have this access, and therefore he would have two legs to stand on.
The road closure he was on about is a different one to the ones stated on the signs, and there was no reason for him not to follow the required route as stated on the sign at the top of West Bank.
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Agreed, looking at the map there are MANY alternative routes to get to the destination via the A6.
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We usually go the a6 way but via gellia Road the road to the a6 is the road which was shut. Even coming the a6 way your still going through a 7.5t and even the route on the signs someone says above are 7.5 so which way are we supposed to go? Even with all roads open your always going through 7.5t so I take it except for access now doesn’t exist to these councils?
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Only if his delivery was actually on West Bank itself. He should have followed the signed alternative, entering the village along Elton Road. This would have only meant entering a 7.5T (except for Access) restriction but not the 3.5T (except for access) restriction on West Bank.
The 3.5T restriction is entirely inside the 7.5T restriction that applies to the whole village and, even though the road closure elsewhere might make it necessary to enter the 7.5T restriction to access a destination on the other side of the village, it does NOT make it necessary to go through the 3.5T limit.
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Don’t answer any of the questions as you may incriminate yourself, get legal advise, if you’re in a union pass the letter to them!!
Don’t tell’em your name Pike.
the maoster:
Don’t tell’em your name Pike.
And I’ve not heard that one before… 
Stephenjp:
Don’t answer any of the questions as you may incriminate yourself, get legal advise, if you’re in a union pass the letter to them!!
This is the correct action. Armchair lawyers won’t help you here.
It’s why I recommend ALL drivers to join a Union such as GMB, if only for the FREE legal services offered. All for a paltry £13 per month. My Chinese takeaway costs more than that.
I have had to use the legal services and it was brilliant just hand over the details and sit back whilst the solicitors do their thing.
msgyorkie:
Stephenjp:
Don’t answer any of the questions as you may incriminate yourself, get legal advise, if you’re in a union pass the letter to them!!This is the correct action. Armchair lawyers won’t help you here.
It’s why I recommend ALL drivers to join a Union such as GMB, if only for the FREE legal services offered. All for a paltry £13 per month. My Chinese takeaway costs more than that.
I have had to use the legal services and it was brilliant just hand over the details and sit back whilst the solicitors do their thing.
Although as one participant hereabouts has found, some trade union legal services won’t actually do anything to help you in this sort of situation. Typically they’ll only act if your licence/livelihood is at risk (some of them say as much in their Ts & Cs). Sometimes they’ll simply give you exactly the same advice as the “armchair lawyers” hereabouts, while offering the option to pay for actual proactive representation. In reality many of them are not much more than a convenient access route to no-win, no fee assistance for injury etc claims, some even specifically excluding criminal cases. It’s a can of worms TBH. If it worked for you then all well and good - but I’ve seen far too many cases where they’ve simply said “Nothing much we can do other than speaking on your behalf in an attempt to mitigate the penalty”.
Roymondo:
msgyorkie:
Stephenjp:
Don’t answer any of the questions as you may incriminate yourself, get legal advise, if you’re in a union pass the letter to them!!This is the correct action. Armchair lawyers won’t help you here.
It’s why I recommend ALL drivers to join a Union such as GMB, if only for the FREE legal services offered. All for a paltry £13 per month. My Chinese takeaway costs more than that.
I have had to use the legal services and it was brilliant just hand over the details and sit back whilst the solicitors do their thing.Although as one participant hereabouts has found, some trade union legal services won’t actually do anything to help you in this sort of situation. Typically they’ll only act if your licence/livelihood is at risk (some of them say as much in their Ts & Cs). Sometimes they’ll simply give you exactly the same advice as the “armchair lawyers” hereabouts, while offering the option to pay for actual proactive representation. In reality many of them are not much more than a convenient access route to no-win, no fee assistance for injury etc claims, some even specifically excluding criminal cases. It’s a can of worms TBH. If it worked for you then all well and good - but I’ve seen far too many cases where they’ve simply said “Nothing much we can do other than speaking on your behalf in an attempt to mitigate the penalty”.
I was involved in a RTA and I was a rear seat passenger. My union solicitors took the case on for me and I kept 100% of the settlement. They were superb and cannot fault them.
They will also deal with his motoring offence.
GMB is a proper Union not like some of the charlatans that are about
Yes, yes. As I said and as they make clear, the “free” service is aimed fairly and squarely at claiming compo for injury claims on a no-fee basis (their costs are paid by the other side anyway if they win). But this is not a claim for loss/injury. As it also clearly states on their website “As well as personal injury and employment claims UnionLine also provide initial advice to members on a broad range of general legal issues…” Their list includes Motoring Offences, but as I said this is initial advice only - if you want them to deal with the whole thing and represent you they will do so, but you will have to pay for this service. It’s NOT the same as a personal injury claim. That’s my point.
Roymondo:
Yes, yes. As I said and as they make clear, the “free” service is aimed fairly and squarely at claiming compo for injury claims on a no-fee basis (their costs are paid by the other side anyway if they win). But this is not a claim for loss/injury. As it also clearly states on their website “As well as personal injury and employment claims UnionLine also provide initial advice to members on a broad range of general legal issues…” Their list includes Motoring Offences, but as I said this is initial advice only - if you want them to deal with the whole thing and represent you they will do so, but you will have to pay for this service. It’s NOT the same as a personal injury claim. That’s my point.
Nope. The initial advice is to sort out the wheat from the chaff. It is to advise you if you have a case to proceed or it is better to fold and cough up.
… And if there is a chance of successfully defending it, they will advise how to proceed yourself, or offer legal representation which you pay for. It’s only the injury claim stuff that they can do “for free” because legislation permits the recovery of (most) legal costs in personal injury cases.
It’s done on exactly the same basis as any other “legal advice line” typically offered by your household insurers.
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For completeness, I have just spoken to a very pleasant lady at Unionline who confirms that initial advice in such a case is free, and that further action or representation if needed is indeed chargeable as a private client BUT if being convicted is likely to affect your employment they will refer it to the Union for a decision on funding.
She added that as a union member you would enjoy a discounted rate for any chargeable work. Which is nice.
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