So went through a weight limit over a month ago now to a delivery, the only other way to my delivery on via gallia Road matlock signs were up saying road closed no through road. Had this letter through the post today, what a joke.
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Can you prove that the only other way in was closed on the day in question (from local council websites or newspapers for example) and if there is absolutely no other way in, even if it involves a 10 mile detour you would have ‘‘access’’ as stated on the weight limit sign, you would also need your delivery notes from the day to back up your case.
shullbit:
Can you prove that the only other way in was closed on the day in question (from local council websites or newspapers for example) and if there is absolutely no other way in, even if it involves a 10 mile detour you would have ‘‘access’’ as stated on the weight limit sign, you would also need your delivery notes from the day to back up your case.
Sorry but I disagree almost completely. You don’t have to prove the alternate road was closed, the trading standards will have access to that, it would be helpful if you state it. Not all weight limits have except for access .
Says you was spotted going down said road. Then an hour later coming back.up said road by a local. Resident.
So is obvious you had a delivery that way otherwise you wouldt be coming back.
I’d just explain you don’t know the area well had a delivery send them a copy of the paperwork.
All I can say is thank God I drive a boring white truck blue trailer no advertising on it
So the Operator had a letter and notified you as the driver. Your choices are to accept the declaration and say nothing, or answer them. They have the info that you went past the weight sign, it’s not for them to show if alternate routes were closed, after all, you went past the sign. If there was an access sign, you can show your delivery address. If it had no access sign, then you’d need to demonstrate why there was no alternative, regardless of the distance.
Perhaps the bigger Q, is if you planned the route, did you know of the weight limit, and if not, why not? Operator get slammed by the TC for failing grade to manage route so that they remain compliant.
On the bright side, at least the resident sent it to the local authority and not the Traf Commissioners - one is a short reply and the other could be a driver’s hearing!
First bit of help I’d offer is to recommend that you don’t treat it as “a joke” as it could easily cost you a day’s wages - and that’s not a laughing matter.
Just reply with exactly the same information you would have given at the roadside if a local copper had stopped you and asked why you were in the weight restriction:
“I’m delivering to Bloggs & Co on Via Gellia Road in Matlock, but the only other access route is closed with signs at {location} clearly stating ‘Road Closed’ and ‘No Through Road’. The load is too heavy for a 3.5T vehicle.”
The restriction signs in the village clearly state" Except for Access".
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It is acctualy illegal to drive past a road closed sign. So I would write a covering letter stating that the alternative route was closed with pics of the signsor maybe you yard could provide you with stills from any camera you may have fitted.
typical london contryite nothing better to do than to sit with a camera waiting for someone to come down the road. If it was me i would be sorely tempted to hire 52 ■■■■■■ type vans so under 3.5 and drive them up and down the road all day making sure to take regular breaks on the road. If anyone moaned i would simply explain we had several 26 tonne deliverys to make and that this was the only safe place you could all park together. If they still got upperty i would say we so and so at number whatever complained when we came down in one lorry this is the only way we can do it.
What kind of power do these people have? Is there a time frame for them send me this? A absolute jobs worth ■■■■ with nothing better to do. My delivery was the other side of village but with the road closer this was the only alternative and with it saying except for access I thought would be OK. With it being dangerous goods delivered I feel I shouldn’t be giving out addresses and isn’t this a data protection breach if I’m giving out people’s addresses?
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Same bloke reported me in 1995, I can tell you the exact house 
but no excuse for going up there really .
stu675:
shullbit:
Can you prove that the only other way in was closed on the day in question (from local council websites or newspapers for example) and if there is absolutely no other way in, even if it involves a 10 mile detour you would have ‘‘access’’ as stated on the weight limit sign, you would also need your delivery notes from the day to back up your case.Not all weight limits have except for access .
No, but this one does google.com/maps/@53.1417624 … 384!8i8192
shullbit:
stu675:
shullbit:
No, but this one does google.com/maps/@53.1417624 … 384!8i8192
Thanks for the confirmation of the access signs.
That makes life easy. Respond only to the letter to the effect that passed the sign - with except access sign, to address at !!!, and returned the same route and in the absence of any other signs, thus was a suitable and appropriate route.
Keep it minimal but answer the Qs you need to put your message over.
shullbit:
stu675:
shullbit:
Can you prove that the only other way in was closed on the day in question (from local council websites or newspapers for example) and if there is absolutely no other way in, even if it involves a 10 mile detour you would have ‘‘access’’ as stated on the weight limit sign, you would also need your delivery notes from the day to back up your case.Not all weight limits have except for access .
No, but this one does google.com/maps/@53.1417624 … 384!8i8192
Op is already in 7.5t limit before turning up West Bank .
Punchy Dan:
Op is already in 7.5t limit before turning up West Bank .
But still with “Except for Access” on those signs.
If there really was no other viable option due to the road closure mentioned, I’d say he’s OK. Of course, if there was another, longer route that he could have used it’s not so clear-cut…
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Punchy Dan:
shullbit:
stu675:
shullbit:
Can you prove that the only other way in was closed on the day in question (from local council websites or newspapers for example) and if there is absolutely no other way in, even if it involves a 10 mile detour you would have ‘‘access’’ as stated on the weight limit sign, you would also need your delivery notes from the day to back up your case.Not all weight limits have except for access .
No, but this one does google.com/maps/@53.1417624 … 384!8i8192
Op is already in 7.5t limit before turning up West Bank .
Yeh but have you read his letter, it is referring to the 3.5 t limit…sheeeesh 
^^^well it would help if op stated which road was closed ( Darley Bridge I suppose due to flooding )
Also delivery point too .
Where was the road closed, if your delivery was on Via Gellia I’m confused how you’ve managed to go down West Bank (and presumably through Winster) and then back up 90 minutes later, when it’s in the opposite direction
shullbit:
Punchy Dan:
shullbit:
stu675:
[quote="shullbitYeh but have you read his letter, it is referring to the 3.5 t limit…sheeeesh
Lol just read it 
wtf
It’s a letter…
With an accusation of wrong doing.
Surely it’s up to them prove your guilt and not you to prove your innocence?
Also, the official warning ‘I must caution you’ etc. You have a right to remain silent and say nothing at all as well, but that’s not mentioned is it.
Trading standards and business support? If it said constabulary, or police force or something, I’d have some respect for it. I can’t see what they can do if you ignore it*. They are asking you to incriminate yourself. I’d say bollox to that.
*but im sure all the armchair lawyers here will tell me
yourhavingalarf:
It’s a letter…With an accusation of wrong doing.
Surely it’s up to them prove your guilt and not you to prove your innocence?
Also, the official warning ‘I must caution you’ etc. You have a right to remain silent and say nothing at all as well, but that’s not mentioned is it.
Trading standards and business support? If it said constabulary, or police force or something, I’d have some respect for it. I can’t see what they can do if you ignore it*. They are asking you to incriminate yourself. I’d say bollox to that.
*but im sure all the armchair lawyers here will tell me
What does ‘you do not have to say anything’ mean if not a reference to the right of silence?
As for them proving it, the photograph effectively does along with the company declaration. It is for the poster to mount a defence and that possibly could centre on the fact there was no other access. (Trust me, whether he provides evidence or just alleges it, it will be checked)
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