Running Monday at 44220 Kgs. Opps
What do I get if caught?
Depends how heavy your truck is cos you have to add that to your own weight.
gov.uk/government/uploads/s … posits.pdf
EXCEED WEIGHT
3.6 Excess Weight Offences
When a fixed penalty notice or conditional offer is issued for an excess weight offence, the
examiner will also prohibit the driving of the vehicle on a road. The prohibition is designed
to stop an overweight vehicle from being used on the road and to preserve road safety.
The fixed penalty will be the preferred option for dealing with excess weight offences,
unless the offence is too serious to warrant the issue of a fixed penalty or the maximum
number of notices (as explained in section 3. 2) would otherwise be exceeded. Below is a
table showing the current graduated penalty levels for excess weight matters:
EXCEED WEIGHT
Severity Endorsable FP amount
0 up to but not including 10% No £100.00
10% up to but not including 15% No £200.00
15% and over No £300.00
The legislation shows that a £100 penalty will be levied for a 0%-9.99% overload, but
VOSA examiners will allow a 5% tolerance before Fixed Penalty or Prohibition issue
unless the relevant weight has been exceeded by 1 tonne or more. It is likely that a fixed
penalty would be inappropriate for serious cases of overloading (i.e. in which the vehicle is
overloaded by 30% and over, or the excess weight is 5 tonnes or more) and therefore a
court summons would be issued.
If the effect of the excess weight and the manner in which the load is carried is having a
significant effect on road safety, for example causing serious instability or loss of
directional control, alternative construction and use or road traffic offences that will need to
go to court may be appropriate, with the excess weight contributing to the offence
^^^ In English that means £100 Fixed Penalty Notice and prohibition till your governor sends another wagon to loose the 220kgs, assuming your plated to 44,000…if it’s less then that’s not good news
Note the last paragraph though, if it’s dangerous it goes straight to magistrate.
There is a tolerance, i think it’s 10%. This is there in case the load gets wet. something along those lines.
EXCEED WEIGHT
3.6 Excess Weight Offences
When a fixed penalty notice or conditional offer is issued for an excess weight offence, the
examiner will also prohibit the driving of the vehicle on a road. The prohibition is designed
to stop an overweight vehicle from being used on the road and to preserve road safety.The fixed penalty will be the preferred option for dealing with excess weight offences,
unless the offence is too serious to warrant the issue of a fixed penalty or the maximum
number of notices (as explained in section 3. 2) would otherwise be exceeded. Below is a
table showing the current graduated penalty levels for excess weight matters:EXCEED WEIGHT
Severity Endorsable FP
The legislation shows that a £100 penalty will be levied for a 0%-9.99% overload, but
VOSA examiners will allow a 5% tolerance before Fixed Penalty or Prohibition issue
unless the relevant weight has been exceeded by 1 tonne or more.
If you’re plated to run at 44000kg, 44220kg is 1/2 of 1% overweight, so according to above the VOSA examiner should allow that without a fixed penalty or prohibition notice.
muckles:
EXCEED WEIGHT
3.6 Excess Weight Offences
When a fixed penalty notice or conditional offer is issued for an excess weight offence, the
examiner will also prohibit the driving of the vehicle on a road. The prohibition is designed
to stop an overweight vehicle from being used on the road and to preserve road safety.The fixed penalty will be the preferred option for dealing with excess weight offences,
unless the offence is too serious to warrant the issue of a fixed penalty or the maximum
number of notices (as explained in section 3. 2) would otherwise be exceeded. Below is a
table showing the current graduated penalty levels for excess weight matters:EXCEED WEIGHT
Severity Endorsable FP
The legislation shows that a £100 penalty will be levied for a 0%-9.99% overload, but
VOSA examiners will allow a 5% tolerance before Fixed Penalty or Prohibition issue
unless the relevant weight has been exceeded by 1 tonne or more.If you’re plated to run at 44000kg, 44220kg is 1/2 of 1% overweight, so according to above the VOSA examiner should allow that without a fixed penalty or prohibition notice.
so long as no axles are over 5%
Thats nothing to some of the weights ive seen on bulk if its been loaded on an angle or on uneven surfaces.
muckles:
EXCEED WEIGHT
3.6 Excess Weight Offences
When a fixed penalty notice or conditional offer is issued for an excess weight offence, the
examiner will also prohibit the driving of the vehicle on a road. The prohibition is designed
to stop an overweight vehicle from being used on the road and to preserve road safety.The fixed penalty will be the preferred option for dealing with excess weight offences,
unless the offence is too serious to warrant the issue of a fixed penalty or the maximum
number of notices (as explained in section 3. 2) would otherwise be exceeded. Below is a
table showing the current graduated penalty levels for excess weight matters:EXCEED WEIGHT
Severity Endorsable FP
The legislation shows that a £100 penalty will be levied for a 0%-9.99% overload, but
VOSA examiners will allow a 5% tolerance before Fixed Penalty or Prohibition issue
unless the relevant weight has been exceeded by 1 tonne or more.If you’re plated to run at 44000kg, 44220kg is 1/2 of 1% overweight, so according to above the VOSA examiner should allow that without a fixed penalty or prohibition notice.
providing that the 220kg extra is not on a axle thats already at max.
SWEDISH BLUE:
Running Monday at 44220 Kgs. OppsWhat do I get if caught?
Run ‘Forest’ Run !
As above, nothing to worry about unless your axles are overweight, which at least 1 probably would be
Also, if you get caught, you will be fined for “Each Offence”
So if you had 3 axles 9% over and the gross weight was 7% over, you would be looking at 4 x £100 fines
Holy ■■■■. Do you honestly worry about these things? Oh the drama… I’m 200kg over, I’ve gone 1 minute over my 4 1\2. What something goes very wrong what do you do?
You only get a verbal warning for up to 1 tonne over so crack on.
maurice:
You only get a verbal warning for up to 1 tonne over so crack on.
Not an absolute, depends on how he feels and how respond to him/her. If he thinks your taking the mick…
trubster:
As above, nothing to worry about unless your axles are overweight, which at least 1 probably would beAlso, if you get caught, you will be fined for “Each Offence”
So if you had 3 axles 9% over and the gross weight was 7% over, you would be looking at 4 x £100 fines
Not correct, they can only issue one fixed penalty for overloading. They pick the most serious offence and issue the relevant fine.
Meistre:
maurice:
You only get a verbal warning for up to 1 tonne over so crack on.Not an absolute, depends on how he feels and how respond to him/her. If he thinks your taking the mick…
It is an absolute, it’s there in black in white on the VOSA price list. Has to be over 5% or over 1 tonne for a fine, no exceptions.
maurice:
Meistre:
maurice:
You only get a verbal warning for up to 1 tonne over so crack on.Not an absolute, depends on how he feels and how respond to him/her. If he thinks your taking the mick…
It is an absolute, it’s there in black in white on the VOSA price list. Has to be over 5% or over 1 tonne for a fine, no exceptions.
I assume your referring to their policy document, best practice guide?
Meistre:
I assume your referring to their policy document, best practice guide?
Think they call it the sanctions policy or something, basically a complete price list for every fine they can issue.
maurice:
trubster:
As above, nothing to worry about unless your axles are overweight, which at least 1 probably would beAlso, if you get caught, you will be fined for “Each Offence”
So if you had 3 axles 9% over and the gross weight was 7% over, you would be looking at 4 x £100 fines
Not correct, they can only issue one fixed penalty for overloading. They pick the most serious offence and issue the relevant fine.
Really? Where does it say that?
I have been told the above by an actual VOSA bod and not someone in a rdc waiting room.
trubster:
maurice:
trubster:
As above, nothing to worry about unless your axles are overweight, which at least 1 probably would beAlso, if you get caught, you will be fined for “Each Offence”
So if you had 3 axles 9% over and the gross weight was 7% over, you would be looking at 4 x £100 fines
Not correct, they can only issue one fixed penalty for overloading. They pick the most serious offence and issue the relevant fine.
Really? Where does it say that?
I have been told the above by an actual VOSA bod and not someone in a rdc waiting room.
gov.uk/government/uploads/s … posits.pdf
3.2 Issue of Notices for Multiple Offences
Although there is only one offence detailed on each notice issued, more than one notice
can be issued at a time by each examiner. This means a number of offences committed by
a driver can therefore be dealt with by the examiner using the fixed penalty process. There
is no limit in the legislation on the numbers of fixed penalties that can be issued.
However, it is intended that each VOSA examiner (traffic and vehicle) may issue up to
three fixed penalty notices or conditional offers for each inspection they carry out, but this
will include only one notice for an endorsable offence within the inspection. The table
below illustrates the intended combinations.
table doesn’t copy well, so look on the link
Offence Type / Non-endorsable fixed penalty offence notices
Combinations per
Examiner 0 1 2 3 4+
0 - FP/CO FP/CO FP/CO Summons
1 FP/CO FP/CO FP/CO Summons Summons
Endorsable
fixed penalty
offence notices
2+ Summons Summons Summons Summons Summons
Key: FP= Fixed Penalty Notice (England & Wales), CO= Conditional Offer (Scotland)
At all times VOSA action will be fair, consistent and proportionate, and require the same
standard of evidence before issuing a fixed penalty as is required to issue a court
summons.
3.6 Excess Weight Offences
When a fixed penalty notice or conditional offer is issued for an excess weight offence, the
examiner will also prohibit the driving of the vehicle on a road. The prohibition is designed
to stop an overweight vehicle from being used on the road and to preserve road safety.
The fixed penalty will be the preferred option for dealing with excess weight offences,
unless the offence is too serious to warrant the issue of a fixed penalty or the maximum
number of notices (as explained in section 3. 2) would otherwise be exceeded. Below is a
table showing the current graduated penalty levels for excess weight matters:
EXCEED WEIGHT
Severity Endorsable FP amount
0 up to but not including 10% No £100.00
10% up to but not including 15% No £200.00
15% and over No £300.00
The legislation shows that a £100 penalty will be levied for a 0%-9.99% overload, but
VOSA examiners will allow a 5% tolerance before Fixed Penalty or Prohibition issue
unless the relevant weight has been exceeded by 1 tonne or more. It is likely that a fixed
penalty would be inappropriate for serious cases of overloading (i.e. in which the vehicle is
overloaded by 30% and over, or the excess weight is 5 tonnes or more) and therefore a
court summons would be issued.
If the effect of the excess weight and the manner in which the load is carried is having a
significant effect on road safety, for example causing serious instability or loss of
directional control, alternative construction and use or road traffic offences that will need to
go to court may be appropriate, with the excess weight contributing to the offence.