trubster:
As above, nothing to worry about unless your axles are overweight, which at least 1 probably would be
Also, if you get caught, you will be fined for “Each Offence”
So if you had 3 axles 9% over and the gross weight was 7% over, you would be looking at 4 x £100 fines
Not correct, they can only issue one fixed penalty for overloading. They pick the most serious offence and issue the relevant fine.
Really? Where does it say that?
I have been told the above by an actual VOSA bod and not someone in a rdc waiting room.
If you Google ‘vosa sanctions’ you’ll get the full list, page 213 tells you about multiple overloading offences. I keep a copy on my laptop in the cab and have proved VOSA wrong a few times on different things.
The 5% rule is to allow for the likes of bulk tippers etc loaded correctly to maximum plated weight, no cover over and it the rains on the load, say sand, will hold some water. Given that on a 7.5T this 5% takes you upto 7,875Kg to start getting ticket(s).
I don’t think you’re really all that worried about 220kg are you? The likelihood of getting caught is very slim and even if you did, you may have burned off a good bit of fuel by then any way, unless you filled up after weighing.
they have done a brilliant job of scaring the ■■■■ out off drivers, ive been stopped 3 times in 15 years so I couldn’t give a toss about vosa and won’t be hold my breath for my next stop.
Its the same abroad, I do a lot of European work and ive been stopped 3 times in 2 years and one of those was my fault anyway.
I don’t think you’re really all that worried about 220kg are you? The likelihood of getting caught is very slim and even if you did, you may have burned off a good bit of fuel by then any way, unless you filled up after weighing.
That is what I was thinking. Just out of interest what does a full tank of fuel weigh, or a litre weigh?
When I was going abroad I had huge tanks, one on either side, and earlier days two max tanks and a saddle tank as a catwalk, so if you weigh in at quarter full, load and fill up it’s going to make a difference, any liquid/mass ratio experts on here know the answer?
I don’t think you’re really all that worried about 220kg are you? The likelihood of getting caught is very slim and even if you did, you may have burned off a good bit of fuel by then any way, unless you filled up after weighing.
That is what I was thinking. Just out of interest what does a full tank of fuel weigh, or a litre weigh?
When I was going abroad I had huge tanks, one on either side, and earlier days two max tanks and a saddle tank as a catwalk, so if you weigh in at quarter full, load and fill up it’s going to make a difference, any liquid/mass ratio experts on here know the answer?
Basic rule for liquids is 1kg per litre, so a 450 litre tank is 450kg.
Some liquids are heavier, some are lighter, but diesel is around that mark
I don’t think you’re really all that worried about 220kg are you? The likelihood of getting caught is very slim and even if you did, you may have burned off a good bit of fuel by then any way, unless you filled up after weighing.
That is what I was thinking. Just out of interest what does a full tank of fuel weigh, or a litre weigh?
When I was going abroad I had huge tanks, one on either side, and earlier days two max tanks and a saddle tank as a catwalk, so if you weigh in at quarter full, load and fill up it’s going to make a difference, any liquid/mass ratio experts on here know the answer?
Basic rule for liquids is 1kg per litre, so a 450 litre tank is 450kg.
Some liquids are heavier, some are lighter, but diesel is around that mark
It’s 1kg/litre for water. Diesel is slightly lighter at around 850-900 grams per litre depending on the blend.
I don’t think you’re really all that worried about 220kg are you? The likelihood of getting caught is very slim and even if you did, you may have burned off a good bit of fuel by then any way, unless you filled up after weighing.
That is what I was thinking. Just out of interest what does a full tank of fuel weigh, or a litre weigh?
When I was going abroad I had huge tanks, one on either side, and earlier days two max tanks and a saddle tank as a catwalk, so if you weigh in at quarter full, load and fill up it’s going to make a difference, any liquid/mass ratio experts on here know the answer?
Basic rule for liquids is 1kg per litre, so a 450 litre tank is 450kg.
Some liquids are heavier, some are lighter, but diesel is around that mark
It’s 1kg/litre for water. Diesel is slightly lighter at around 850-900 grams per litre depending on the blend.
I said basic rule. Yes we know Diesel and oil are lighter than water because they sit on top of it, but for a basic rule it works.
I was talking to a driver at an RDC and he told me that for a 220kg overload, they can take your licence away, and put you in prison, your family will be deported to a far flung place,and you will never be allowed to work with kids.
Dont worry, 220kg is within the tolerance, no fine, no endorsement, No Wuckin Furry, have a good day.
I was pulled at Ringwood, knew I was heavy at 44,600kg put the stuff I had on was a pain in the ■■■ to get right, held my hands up to the copper when I got on the bridge, his answer was lets wait and see, vosa weighed me and was told to pull over out the way, thought to myself he we go!!! 5 minutes later the copper walks back over hands me my weight print out from the bridge and goes “all good drive on your way, you were over but we don’t do anything unless over 5%”, I was 1% over on one axle, so at 220kg no problems what so ever
