Conor:
So lets look at some of these people who are screwing over the very people they expect to pay for their pensions.My brother is a teacher in Sunderland who pleads poverty. 7 years ago he started on £20k as a qualified teacher. He is now on over £32k and hasn’t been promoted. Teachers get an average of 7%-7.5% a year wage rise for the first 6 years. So even in the 2 years they had “frozen pay” he got two 7% wage rises. And for many public sector workers, whereas for us “frozen pay” means if you earned £10,000 last year you’re getting £10,000 this year, for them it means if cost of living rise was 3% then £10,000 last year means £10,300 this year. Hardly what you or I would call a pay freeze…
Wow yay full of ■■■■, my wife’s a teacher she’s never got a 7%-7.5% pay rise, she’s has to do alot of crap, she starts work at 8am and normally after doing paper work, speaking to parents and following up any other crap she finishes at 1800, she spends most night marking work and lesson planning, some weekend she takes the kids on excursions for there school work( unpaid), she gets £25,000 per year which is 44 weeks, then divide by 52.14 and that’s her wage, as they don’t get paid for school holidays.
I’m a nurse and 2 years ago I took a pay freeze, what I got 2 year ago is the same as I get now, no pay rise, no cost of living rise, I had to pay more to be registered £76 per year, the government want this extra money not for my pension but to subsidise the debt they have.
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Boss & Driver:
stagedriver:
Will our friends at VOSA be working?WEDNESDAY IS TACHO FREE DAY!
you can drive without a tacho on wednesday, in fact, it’s a day of complete lawlessness. however, you will be arrested on thursday.
merc0447:
Would you consider this a good pension?Age 60 -£13,574 a year or lump sum £63,399 reduced pension of £9,510 a year
Age 62 - £ 15,511 a year or lump sum £71,591 reduced pension of £10,739 a year
Age 65 - £16,681 a year or lump sum £75,355 reduced pension of £11,300 a year
Yep. All of them without the lump sum are more than you’d earn doing a 40hr week at NMW.
In fact at age 65, its more than many lorry drivers would get for a basic 40hr week.
Blueiain:
Wow yay full of [zb], my wife’s a teacher she’s never got a 7%-7.5% pay rise,
If she hasn’t got a pay rise then its because she’s crap and hasn’t met the targets for her next grade point. And what that means, everybody, is that she is an incompetent teacher unable to teach the subject to her pupils because targets are based on examination results, usually grade C or above. And when I was at school, Grade D was regarded as a fail in a subject. So if so many of her pupils are getting Grade D to the point she doesn’t get a point grade, is she really fit to teach?
The wages for teachers are freely available on the internet. Here you go…
tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6000186
she gets £25,000 per year which is 44 weeks, then divide by 52.14 and that’s her wage, as they don’t get paid for school holidays.
No, her wage is £25,000 / 44. And if she’s still doing a 50hr week more than 2 years into the job and still making up lesson plans, she is really crap because most teachers have figured they can use the previous years plans and do marking in free periods during the day. Certainly my brother doesn’t spend as much time as you claim your wife does. Then again, he met his performance targets every year.
She is free to take up other employment in school holidays. I know of teachers who did HGV driving in easter and summer hols. One did prison guard work.
As for your wage freeze, I said “SOME” public sector workers. But as you obviously don’t understand what that means, thanks for confirming my view that it is idiots too stupid to be employed in the real world who end up in the public sector.
Conor:
If she hasn’t got a pay rise then its because she’s crap and hasn’t met the targets for her next grade point.
As for your wage freeze, I said “SOME” public sector workers. But as you obviously don’t understand what that means, thanks for confirming my view that it is idiots too stupid to be employed in the real world who end up in the public sector.
It’s your subtlety that I love Conor
Stan
Blueiain:
Well I’m striking, the Government changed my pension terms in 2008, they gave me a 2 year pay freeze in 2009 which has been extended until 2015, they are now after taking my enhanced pay for working nights, weekends, bank holidays, Xmas and new year, I’m expected to now work until I’m 67, I have to give an extra £50-£70 per month on my pension (3% increase) and work an extra 12 years before I can draw this pension, also my lump sum will be taxed at 25%, I work for a Foundation Trust (which means they can set local agreement wages) my trust wants me to go from £26,547 per year to £18,000 per year, I’ve spent 3 years at Uni and 6 years working and training up to this wage, I work 13.5 hrs per day and have a 40min break, when I clock on/off I have to use a hand scanner and employee number if I’m 2 mind late, I lose 30 mins pay, if I’m over my finish time at the end of the shift, it’s classed as a gratuity to the trust, I don’t get overtime, if I have an unwell patient and it’s end of shift, I’m not just gonna leave and not help, I not asking for a fortune just a pension
My daughter’s a nurse. I sent her this for her opinion. She didn’t recognise it. She just laughed. Having seen her wage slips I can see why. 
Stan
gnasty gnome:
What he said. I’ll support the public sector on the day they support drivers’ demands for a 40 hour week, inflation-proof pension, as many sick days due to “stress” as they can comfortably achieve, etc. Not before.
My sentiments.
Stan
cliffton 27:
as a driver im on decent wages but think its a joke when i earn twice as mich as my other half for what i call having a day out driving around
You must be on one hell of a screw!
Stan
44 Tonne Ton:
http://news.sky.com/home/business/article/16002704All my working life all I’ve ever heard from the bosses is that the working man needs to work harder for less money. The day they take their own advice is the day i might listen to that claptrap! As for you “working” people who are against workers trying to hold onto what little they have you make me [zb] puke!
Well said if you read some of the other posts you will see why we are always just going to be at the bottom of the pile,it,s good to see someone actually trying to do something and joining together,good on em I say!!
i will give a toss about the people on strike tomorrow just as soon as they give a toss about drivers■■?..yep wont be holding my breath.
the divide and conquer has been around for a long time and unfourtunatly it wont go away any time soon, so go on strike and lose a days pay if you want, me im keeping my head down and earning, while i still have a job…
Conor:
Blueiain:
Wow yay full of [zb], my wife’s a teacher she’s never got a 7%-7.5% pay rise,
If she hasn’t got a pay rise then its because she’s crap and hasn’t met the targets for her next grade point. And what that means, everybody, is that she is an incompetent teacher unable to teach the subject to her pupils because targets are based on examination results, usually grade C or above. And when I was at school, Grade D was regarded as a fail in a subject. So if so many of her pupils are getting Grade D to the point she doesn’t get a point grade, is she really fit to teach?
She’s just had an excellent from offsted, most of her pupils go onto university, she pushes these kids to do well,
The wages for teachers are freely available on the internet. Here you go…
tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=600018
I’m afraid ya wrong again, my wife is head of year at a secondary school in Newcastle, last year the local government reorganised, making 15 teachers redundant, and given the staff a pay cut, my wife got promoted to her present job, which had a name change and a £7,000 drop in salary, at the moment I’m sitting next to her watch her plan another lesson for her year 12/13 pupils and emailing her staff on her works computer, you can’t just plan a lesson and use it time after time, she there to stimulate these little cherubs,
Stanley Knife:
Blueiain:
Well I’m striking, the Government changed my pension terms in 2008, they gave me a 2 year pay freeze in 2009 which has been extended until 2015, they are now after taking my enhanced pay for working nights, weekends, bank holidays, Xmas and new year, I’m expected to now work until I’m 67, I have to give an extra £50-£70 per month on my pension (3% increase) and work an extra 12 years before I can draw this pension, also my lump sum will be taxed at 25%, I work for a Foundation Trust (which means they can set local agreement wages) my trust wants me to go from £26,547 per year to £18,000 per year, I’ve spent 3 years at Uni and 6 years working and training up to this wage, I work 13.5 hrs per day and have a 40min break, when I clock on/off I have to use a hand scanner and employee number if I’m 2 mind late, I lose 30 mins pay, if I’m over my finish time at the end of the shift, it’s classed as a gratuity to the trust, I don’t get overtime, if I have an unwell patient and it’s end of shift, I’m not just gonna leave and not help, I not asking for a fortune just a pensionMy daughter’s a nurse. I sent her this for her opinion. She didn’t recognise it. She just laughed. Having seen her wage slips I can see why.
Stan
What did you daughter laugh at■■?, what nurse is she, I’m top of band 5,
Does your daughter work for a Foundation Trust■■? A Foundation Trust can set locally agreed pay, My chief Exec, stared last year that Nurses were in the wrong pay and and he wanted us to be downgraded, so my band 5 would be reduced to Band 4, if yay want go to RCN and look at the difference in pay scales
Stanley Knife:
cliffton 27:
as a driver im on decent wages but think its a joke when i earn twice as mich as my other half for what i call having a day out driving aroundYou must be on one hell of a screw!
Stan
cant complain that was at the old job working 4 days on class 2 doing every other week overtime one yr i took near 33 k
now i work for the green machine tramping and i cant complain about the money although i have to stay out all week to earn simaler the work is a lot easier however come the new yr the misses qualifys from uni and and goes onto a basic of 25k instead of the pittance she is paid now 
Suffolk ReeferBoy:
PinkLadyTrucker:
EVERY Working person should be out on strike, and I mean Everyone apart from these corporate and parliamentary money grabbers.They expect everyone to cut back and work more for less, Why? Oh so they can take a bit more of the pot away from the common worker
I wonder when I am allowed to get Holiday Pay or Sick pay, apart from Stat sick pay, Probably never at this rate, and the DPC well forget it, I cant afford to pay for that myself at the moment, then medical in a few years, oh I have to pay again, Im fed up of wondering When I will be at work.
I just want a full time job which allows me to have weekends off due to childcare and 2 years fighting for my son so that I have him those weekends, Sadly most places want like Tuesday to Sunday drivers, Ok then, when would i spend quality time with my son??Sorry for the rant, tbh, I am F’d off with England, greedy corporations and a incompetent government[/quot
Maybe a change of career would be a good idea, I would put family time ahead of a job
everytime .
As for medical and Dcpc its just part of the job now , I dont really think its a break the
bank situation.
I am not going to support the strikers , they are still going to get a good pension , just
have to pay in alittle more , so what. The private pensions have fallen as well no come
back for us poor buggers.
A strike isnt going to change anything , its just for Pricks like Bob Crow , Paul Kenny,
general secretary of the GMB union, Christine Blower NUT etc etc to sabre rattle and
continue their gold plated pensions funded by their members.
I would rather my taxes went to a third world country I got a third world education system
when I was at school and the teachers who taught me will now be claiming a good pension
from my tax bill. Fantastic.
Totally agree with that SRB
I’d sack the lot of them.
Could they strike tomorrow aswell? A40s been quiet all day…just stop whinging on the local radio.
sick of hearing them bleating on about working more for less, tough. i reckon i will be working into my 70’s. the bubbles burst im affraid either change jobs or take it on the chin like the rest of us. yes you pay your taxes like the rest of us but if i could use my taxes to pay for my pension i wouldnt be moaning, bloody country is on its knees and yet people still expect to be on the same perks as the good years.
when i see a teacher/social worker/prison officer/border control worker turn round and speak up for the long hours and crap pay we put up with then maybe i will change my tune. funny enough you dont hear a peep out of them when the private sector go on strike except to complain, yet hearing some teacher on the radio telling me shes on strike for the private sector as well as the public sector makes me laugh!!!, maybe the holidays when she doesnt get paid she should take a job in a supermarket if she cant live on what shes earning now
funny enough the other half agrees with me, she realises its gone ■■■■ up and shes a nurse.
why don’t the civil servants do what they used to.
take bribes. no more pension problems.
wirralpete:
sick of hearing them bleating on about working more for less, tough. i reckon i will be working into my 70’s. the bubbles burst im affraid either change jobs or take it on the chin like the rest of us. yes you pay your taxes like the rest of us but if i could use my taxes to pay for my pension i wouldnt be moaning, bloody country is on its knees and yet people still expect to be on the same perks as the good years.funny enough the other half agrees with me, she realises its gone ■■■■ up and shes a nurse.
absolutely on the mark
Muckaway:
Could they strike tomorrow aswell? A40s been quiet all day…just stop whinging on the local radio.
You’ve beat me to it. Manchester ring was running sweet this evening.
Might I suggest one strike a week? It might even be worth joining the Union to encourage the strikes.
W