Spardo:
montana man:
And perhaps we should welcome back cholera , TB and other diseases fatal to young children. How about taking away seatbelts and airbags. As for bunks and night heaters , out they go. Along with motorways and cheap airlines. And lets not forget a huge welcome back for our old friend Asbestos… After all “thats the way things were” and nobody complained , it was the good old days when you could beat your wife nightly, and did she complain, of course not…
We live in a progressive world where we try to “improve” on things.
Spardo and Ady you seem to be living in some kind of “Monty Python” sketch… 
My God what a load of hysteria over horseplay in the yard. And that is all that it was in the original post:
Lady P:
1 of the drivers bent me over from behind, or tried too I did thump him and “asked him not to do that,”
I’m sorry, but that is NOT horseplay in this day and age. It is ■■■■■■ assault. So where exactly do you draw the line Spardo? What point would an assault have to reach before you decided that enough was enough when you were a manager? Would he have had to stick his hand between her legs? Would he have had to rip her pants down? Would even a ■■■■ be ok if it was in your yard…because, hey, it’s just horseplay, and in the interests of “equality” it should be allowed…god forbid, after all, that you be seen to defend a driver because another driver chose to take advantage of his superior strength and help himself to her body knowing that she wasn’t a bloke and therefore far less likely to floor him as a result.
Personally, I don’t think equality is about anally reducing everything to it’s lowest common denominator. It’s about affording equal respect to all employees regardless of gender. Yes, there will be situations where things will happen between a male and a female which would be unlikely to occur between two males…you can’t just shy away from dealing with it because it’s outside your comfort zone to be seen to back the weaker driver. To treat all drivers with equal respect means to accept that biological differences will cause such situations to arise, and that they should be dealt with using respect as your number one priority. Helping yourself to another driver’s body in an aggressively ■■■■■■ manner - as is patently obvious from LP’s first post, since I cannot think of any instance where this action would NOT constitute an aggressively ■■■■■■ incident - is a breach of the victim’s respect whichever way you look at it.
and all that I based my opinion on. I don’t go to chat rooms and I didn’t know there was a history. When I did I revised my opinion. But strewth. Cholera, TB, kids up chimneys. Disgusting comparisons. And if you think you are disappointed Lucy, it is nothing to what I feel. You had all the facts, I didn’t, yet you chose to make a personal attack.
I did not make a personal attack, I attacked your opinion, and commented on how it made me feel. As said above, the opening post said enough for me to have had the same view regardless of any other details.To my mind, you had plenty enough facts…but then I suppose that depends on to what extent you think that people have the right to claim ownership of their own bodies. “Bending a woman over” is unacceptable behaviour in this day and age, full stop.
Which is why the comparisons with kids up chimneys are accurate. It was a practice once considered acceptable which is now considered abhorrent.
Treating women’s - or men’s - bodies with violatory contempt in this way was once considered acceptable, now it is abhorrent.
Where exactly is the difference?
Get a sense of perspective.
I have a sense of perspective, thanks. One which says that my body, your body, anyone else’s body is theirs and theirs alone. One which says that to violate that is to demonstrate disrespect in the extreme. One which says that this is 2007, not 1907, and women are no longer forced to accept men’s dismissal of incidents in which physical ■■■■■■■■-motivated contact has occured. One which knows that, if she chose to, LP could take this to a tribunal - or even a court of law - and they would agree and uphold her right.
My perspective is that ■■■■■■ assault in any form, against any gender, is unacceptable. And if you - or your wife - were on the receiving end of such an assault you may suddenly find you agreed, once you’d got over how dirty, violated and physically sick the victim is left to feel.
