Was anyone on here the culprit?

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Was it any of the container boys on here who pulled off the bay at B&Q in Swindon while he was still being tipped?? The forkie realised and managed to stop so he didn’t go flying out the back, but wasn’t able to stop 2 pallets of tiles flying out the back. Dunno what was up with the driver, but he pulled off the bay on a red light. But the whole point of giving keys in is to make sure these sort of things don’t happen, so maybe goods in staff should have checked it was tipped before handing the keys back.

It was someone who’s a subby for wincanton, got marched off site and wasn’t allowed to take the wagon with him by all accounts.

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selby newcomer:
got marched off site and wasn’t allowed to take the wagon with him by all accounts.

More drivers waiting room horse manure…

I think that would be called theft.

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selby newcomer:
Was it any of the container boys on here who pulled off the bay at B&Q in Swindon while he was still being tipped?? The forkie realised and managed to stop so he didn’t go flying out the back, but wasn’t able to stop 2 pallets of tiles flying out the back. Dunno what was up with the driver, but he pulled off the bay on a red light. But the whole point of giving keys in is to make sure these sort of things don’t happen, so maybe goods in staff should have checked it was tipped before handing the keys back.

It was someone who’s a subby for wincanton, got marched off site and wasn’t allowed to take the wagon with him by all accounts.

Did you witness this?

Hate hearing all this crap about drivers doing stuff like this so they have to take your keys.

I remember 1 place, I offered to put trailer brake on, drop red airline, drop trailer off 5th wheel (too dangerous apparantly) and sit just under it etc… But they had to have the keys. 6hr tip, no way of locking your cab whilst you went the loo or for food etc, can’t power windows or 12v socket to watch lappy, all because someone once - IN EVERY SINGLE WAREHOUSE WITH THIS RULE - drove off whilst a forkie was just about to go in, just leaving, or was half in and half out and is now in hospital.

That’s a ■■■■ load of unlucky forkies :unamused:

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It’s all fact I’m afraid, one of our drivers was tipping there on Thursday evening around 7pm, he phoned me when it happened, we are in there regular and I was going there Friday morning, so he was telling me to be prepared for some over zealous rules, but all was the same as before where I tip.

As for it being theft, I don’t know about that, but he was refused permission to move his vehicle incase he had been drinking or something, someone had to come and move it from wincantons.

I know some places are over the top with what they class as H&S, but when drivers are driving off loading bays with a red light, is it any wonder we’re all treated like idiots

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selby newcomer:
Was it any of the container boys on here who pulled off the bay at B&Q in Swindon while he was still being tipped?? The forkie realised and managed to stop so he didn’t go flying out the back, but wasn’t able to stop 2 pallets of tiles flying out the back. Dunno what was up with the driver, but he pulled off the bay on a red light. But the whole point of giving keys in is to make sure these sort of things don’t happen, so maybe goods in staff should have checked it was tipped before handing the keys back.

It was someone who’s a subby for wincanton, got marched off site and wasn’t allowed to take the wagon with him by all accounts.

Maybe this is a fine example of proving why handing in keys is not the safe means most of these places think it is. I have never been of the opnion that it is anyway. Theres other things that could go wrong with that method too.
They should have physical fool proof means of securing the trailer / vehicle to the bay, so that its impossibe to move if they have the keys or not - IMHO

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selby newcomer:
I know some places are over the top with what they class as H&S, but when drivers are driving off loading bays with a red light, is it any wonder we’re all treated like idiots

Not really is it?

I may be over cautious, but even when given a green light, keys or anything I always walk to the back of the trailer to check.

What I actually do is stick my hand inside and take a photograph with my mobile phone, that is if I cannot get my head between the bay and the trailer

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If the lights red, u don’t move off the bay. It’s not rocket science is it??

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selby newcomer:
It’s all fact I’m afraid, one of our drivers was tipping there on Thursday evening around 7pm, he phoned me when it happened, we are in there regular and I was going there Friday morning, so he was telling me to be prepared for some over zealous rules, but all was the same as before where I tip.

As for it being theft, I don’t know about that, but he was refused permission to move his vehicle incase he had been drinking or something, someone had to come and move it from wincantons.

I know some places are over the top with what they class as H&S, but when drivers are driving off loading bays with a red light, is it any wonder we’re all treated like idiots

Seriously, that guy is a ■■■■■■■■ that doesn’t mean all truck drivers are ■■■■■■■■■ the same as the black guy who lives near me is a druggy, are all black guys druggy’s?

Most people have a spare set of keys to hand in now, it’s got that daft. I used to hand my car keys in, I wasn’t going to leave my car keys behind was I? But 1 place went mad, I was trying to evade their safety measures blah blah… This was the place I’d mentioned before btw with lots of offers of stuff that’s much safer than me handing over a set of keys.

As for refusing him the vehicle due to thinkin’ he’d had a drink, get the details for the insurance, get the police involved if necessary, but refusing him to leave with his vehicle? seriously? I’d have been through the barrier without a 2nd thought. Arrogant ■■■■■■■■■■

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LOL!!! Red light means stop, green means go. I have a scania key ring on my car keys anyway so I just pull off when I want.

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That wasn’t just a brain ■■■■ ffs, even at places where keys are handed in I always make sure the dock leveller is off and/or door closed as well as a green light. Not rocket science.

HOWEVER

Handing keys in is a bone idle way of sorting drive offs, too many issues, my solution would be to have a ruddy great big ‘DO NOT MOVE’ sign on a pole with concrete base forklifted to the front of the unit, simple, effective and muppet proof (unless the forkie is named Gonzo). Only trouble with this method is at larger places it’d cost an annual salary plus flt running costs.

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MADBAZ:
That wasn’t just a brain ■■■■ ffs, even at places where keys are handed in I always make sure the dock leveller is off and/or door closed as well as a green light. Not rocket science.

HOWEVER

Handing keys in is a bone idle way of sorting drive offs, too many issues, my solution would be to have a ruddy great big ‘DO NOT MOVE’ sign on a pole with concrete base forklifted to the front of the unit, simple, effective and muppet proof (unless the forkie is named Gonzo). Only trouble with this method is at larger places it’d cost an annual salary plus flt running costs.

That’s done in a lot of places, INCLUDING a lot of pallet hubs, so really not that time consuming or costly if it’s done in those places, they’re like those auto-repair ships in the StarTrek movies in those pallet hubs, how there isn’t a hell of a lot of deaths, injuries and damages in those places is surely more by luck than judgement.

Anyway, there’s millions of other methods, auto lock bars on the guide bars - a few places have those, red line locks - although this wouldn’t stop someone hitting the shunt button, but this is about negligence rather than deliberate acts, good old fashioned wheel chocks on the rear most wheel - by time you’ve walked that far back, might as well pop your head in eh? etc.

Seriously, of all the choices available, I’ve never yet understood the handing keys of your truck / home for the week over to a complete stranger, it just doesn’t sit right with me, can you imagine if anything went missing out of your cab whilst you went the loo or for food etc, or you came back and your tacho mode was switched and these are just obvious things.
Most places that have this rule, in my experience, have what I call scally’s working there, I wouldn’t hand them the keys to my house, I wouldn’t hand them the keys to my car, why would I hand them the keys to the truck? The companies should all get together and just say “NO”, they can even copy these crappy places and insist it’s for insurance reasons, which I’ve been told anyway, should anything happen, the insurance isn’t going to cover a motor where the keys are not in the secure location and not in the drivers possession.

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Remember the time Wincanton at Brockworth LOST the keys to one of the trucks delivering to them ■■ :unamused: :confused:
Think it was a Giraud ■■ iirc
Another reason this handing in keys thing is a very poor idea
Physically clamping the truck to the bay, chocks etc is the only way to go.
How they get away with this keys thing, I dunno

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Wheel Nut:
What I actually do is stick my hand inside and take a photograph with my mobile phone, that is if I cannot get my head between the bay and the trailer

just asking for a snapped arm :unamused: :bulb:

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Curious, how do they do these things on the continent?

I’ve only been to a few DC’s, but have only had to hand in my keys at one of them, and that was to the forkie who was loading me then and there, in others I’ve had to hang them on a hook on the mirror arm (but they’ve been quite happy for me to use them for the radio etc), or have been trusted to keep them as there’s a huge great locking arm come across the trailer wheel, or they just haven’t worried.

Just wondering whether it’s a typical UK over-reaction, or whether it happens all over Europe? If not, do they suffer from the weekly drive-off and injured forkie at every place?

Gary

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commonrail:

Wheel Nut:
What I actually do is stick my hand inside and take a photograph with my mobile phone, that is if I cannot get my head between the bay and the trailer

just asking for a snapped arm :unamused: :bulb:

There is more than enough room for my arm with a phone, sometimes my head wont go in though :stuck_out_tongue:

I can actually hear if there is a fork lift inside my trailer. Do as you want, but at the end of the day, if you pull off a bay, even on a green light it will only ever be the drivers fault.

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at Costco in Lutterworth, they have a bar that comes round the trailer wheel as you reverse on the bay, it locks into position when the loading ramp is in place, so you couldn’t move even if you wanted too. they still take your keys off you though

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Norberts in Nuneaton lock your red line take your keys and make you wait in the canteen now that’s a bit ott. I think it’s just health and safety men trying to justify their jobs.

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selby newcomer:
at Costco in Lutterworth, they have a bar that comes round the trailer wheel as you reverse on the bay, it locks into position when the loading ramp is in place, so you couldn’t move even if you wanted too. they still take your keys off you though

Gefco in Rennes used to have a system that clamped around the rear bumper bar, if it wouldn’t clamp, they fed a chain around or through the underrun bar.

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sammy:
Norberts in Nuneaton lock your red line take your keys and make you wait in the canteen now that’s a bit ott. I think it’s just health and safety men trying to justify their jobs.

Same as Amazon in Hemel Hempstead. In their nice new waiting room there is tape on the floor with pictures of the items. The Coffee machine has tape around it with a picture of the Coffee Machine on the floor, same as the water dispenser, bin etc. that ■■■■ hole is full of idiots.

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On the subject of h&s gone mad try Heinz at Wigan they have the lock that goes in front of trailer rear axle then a bay specific lock to go on trailers red line which when locks releases the key which you then take to a switch/ lock adjacent to the loading bay which you have to insert key in and turn so they can open the dock door and energise the dock leveller then you have to lock your cab hand in the keys at office and wait in drivers room until loaded