Because the agency had lied about both what the job entailed, and about the reason I was asked to attend this morning.
The guy was understanding and clearly had experienced this before as his reaction was " we need to speak to them about misrepresenting the job".
So, why do they do it? It causes nothing but hassle for everyone. I guess they hope that plenty of folk will put up with it and bite the bullet and do it anyway…
Not I.
I wouldn’t have even applied if the description had been even half truthful. And then lying about it being an induction when in fact it was a full shift…
Been pulling this kind of crap since I can remember. Inductions that are paid turn out to be un-paid or, in some cases an actual shift that pretends to be an induction. Sometimes the company involved sets it up with the agency. This is the problem with self-regulation, it becomes a race to the bottom.
For my own part, I’ve walked from one induction and from two sites where the job described beforehand wasn’t the job when I got there.
You do right mate, ■■■■ 'em. They only get away with this kind of stuff because others take their crap.
Been pulling this kind of crap since I can remember. Inductions that are paid turn out to be un-paid or, in some cases an actual shift that pretends to be an induction. Sometimes the company involved sets it up with the agency. This is the problem with self-regulation, it becomes a race to the bottom.
For my own part, I’ve walked from one induction and from two sites where the job described beforehand wasn’t the job when I got there.
You do right mate, [zb] 'em. They only get away with this kind of stuff because others take their crap.
Cheers for that mate…
Frankly, I just cannot understand why anyone would buckle and do it when it was so completely different from the actual job and reason I was asked to attend…
I expect a bit of “embroidering” of the job, but this was on a spectacular scale… Makes some of the other agencies I’ve been with seem almost honest…!!!
There seems to still be a school of thought that goes
“Now we’ve tricked them into coming all this way, perhaps they’ll take the crappier-than-expected job, because they are utterly desperate for work, there’s no work around, and there’s no shortage.”
If you believe anything other than that - you walk, and curse them because they wasted your time.
If you’re really smart - you’ll ask for the assessor’s contact details the day before, and then get them to describe the job to you, withdrawing your entire application whilst on the phone - the moment the job is NOT what it said on the tin.
Winseer:
There seems to still be a school of thought that goes
“Now we’ve tricked them into coming all this way, perhaps they’ll take the crappier-than-expected job, because they are utterly desperate for work, there’s no work around, and there’s no shortage.”
If you believe anything other than that - you walk, and curse them because they wasted your time.
If you’re really smart - you’ll ask for the assessor’s contact details the day before, and then get them to describe the job to you, withdrawing your entire application whilst on the phone - the moment the job is NOT what it said on the tin.
The latter is a great idea but likely in most cases to be met with refusal on privacy grounds. Which then means that you either risk it or dont.
The guy I saw today wasnt an assessor. He was a driver, probably moved up a notch to having a slightly bigger cup in the canteen.
Having spoken to the agency their man did a spectacular job of pretending he didnt know it wasnt a trunking job - and that they’d got me there today under false pretences. .
I made it clear I still expect my 8 hours pay as I kept my side of the deal and it was their misinformation that caused the issue.
I’m not holding my breath, but I will be very, very persistent…[emoji108]
I’m noticing a trend with these agencies, my first angecy experience was last week, sent for assement at royal mail, after copying my licence and doing the assesment guy asks me have I drove class 1 on the last 6 months, I says no I’ve been driving class 2 the past 3 years, did you tell the agency this, yes, well they they shouldn’t have sent u, we require at class 1 experience in at least the past 12 months. So didn’t even get a drive lol.
Must they get paid for every applicant they send to these places?
DaveyW:
I’m noticing a trend with these agencies, my first angecy experience was last week, sent for assement at royal mail, after copying my licence and doing the assesment guy asks me have I drove class 1 on the last 6 months, I says no I’ve been driving class 2 the past 3 years, did you tell the agency this, yes, well they they shouldn’t have sent u, we require at class 1 experience in at least the past 12 months. So didn’t even get a drive lol.
Must they get paid for every applicant they send to these places?
That happened to me at Sainsburys just after I’d passed class 1. Found out half way through the induction…
If you go for a full time job to the same companies you get paid for induction on first day,.so it should be the same via an agency…especially when they are taking the ■■■■ by taking a full day to do it.
Winseer:
There seems to still be a school of thought that goes
“Now we’ve tricked them into coming all this way, perhaps they’ll take the crappier-than-expected job, because they are utterly desperate for work, there’s no work around, and there’s no shortage.”
If you believe anything other than that - you walk, and curse them because they wasted your time.
If you’re really smart - you’ll ask for the assessor’s contact details the day before, and then get them to describe the job to you, withdrawing your entire application whilst on the phone - the moment the job is NOT what it said on the tin.
How the hell do you all seem to find agencies like this? I’ve been doing agency work since the early 90s, have worked for quite a few and never come across any of the stuff that you lot post about. Is it just that we get a better standard of agency in Hull area? Or is it you have some unrealistic expectations of what agency work is going to be like?
Conor:
How the hell do you all seem to find agencies like this? I’ve been doing agency work since the early 90s, have worked for quite a few and never come across any of the stuff that you lot post about. Is it just that we get a better standard of agency in Hull area? Or is it you have some unrealistic expectations of what agency work is going to be like?
Agency advertise a role as long distance one/two drop trunking.
Book me in for a driver assessment and site induction.
Turn up to a multi drop local shift.
Hardly unrealistic to expect the former when it has been advertised as such and has been confirmed via text and on the phone.
Maybe you’re just easy to please and happy to be lied to - and still dig in and do as you’re told… [emoji108]
DaveyW:
I’m noticing a trend with these agencies, my first angecy experience was last week, sent for assement at royal mail, after copying my licence and doing the assesment guy asks me have I drove class 1 on the last 6 months, I says no I’ve been driving class 2 the past 3 years, did you tell the agency this, yes, well they they shouldn’t have sent u, we require at class 1 experience in at least the past 12 months. So didn’t even get a drive lol.
Must they get paid for every applicant they send to these places?
That happened to me at Sainsburys just after I’d passed class 1. Found out half way through the induction…
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Not sure how you managed to pass class1 without driving a class1?
Conor:
How the hell do you all seem to find agencies like this? I’ve been doing agency work since the early 90s, have worked for quite a few and never come across any of the stuff that you lot post about. Is it just that we get a better standard of agency in Hull area? Or is it you have some unrealistic expectations of what agency work is going to be like?
Agency advertise a role as long distance one/two drop trunking.
Book me in for a driver assessment and site induction.
Turn up to a multi drop local shift.
Hardly unrealistic to expect the former when it has been advertised as such and has been confirmed via text and on the phone.
My wife went for a job interview at a sign company in Hull last week, advertised by the company as 8am-4.30pm. When she got to the interview she was told it was 6am-6pm. It isn’t just agencies who advertise one thing and when you get there it’s something else.
Maybe you’re just easy to please and happy to be lied to - and still dig in and do as you’re told… [emoji108]
Or maybe I’ve been driving lorries long enough to know that there’s no guarantees of anything in this job at all other than very few plans survive first contact.
You’re new to lorry driving aren’t you, first ever experience? The only thing you can ever guarantee in this job is the earliest you can start the following day and that’s only because of the rules on minimum daily and weekly rest but even your start time can change by hours within minutes of your shift starting even if you’re employed.
It’s agency work which makes that even more likely it’s going to change on a dime often because between the time the company contacts the agency and the time the driver turns up the situation has changed if it’s anything more than a few hours.
If you’re not prepared to accept that things change on a dime and often quite considerably then you really should be questioning whether you should be driving lorries at all.
Conor:
How the hell do you all seem to find agencies like this? I’ve been doing agency work since the early 90s, have worked for quite a few and never come across any of the stuff that you lot post about. Is it just that we get a better standard of agency in Hull area? Or is it you have some unrealistic expectations of what agency work is going to be like?
Agency advertise a role as long distance one/two drop trunking.
Book me in for a driver assessment and site induction.
Turn up to a multi drop local shift.
Hardly unrealistic to expect the former when it has been advertised as such and has been confirmed via text and on the phone.
Maybe you’re just easy to please and happy to be lied to - and still dig in and do as you’re told… [emoji108]
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Regular trunk driver leaves, agency is asked to provide another one and recruits suitable candidate(s) . Meanwhile, unbeknown to agency one of the regular multi-drop drivers asks to be moved over to the trunking role. This sort of thing happens quite often.
Roymondo:
Regular trunk driver leaves, agency is asked to provide another one and recruits suitable candidate(s) . Meanwhile, unbeknown to agency one of the regular multi-drop drivers asks to be moved over to the trunking role. This sort of thing happens quite often.
This. Where I’m at it used to be night trunk drivers queuing up to get onto days but after a year of fantastic traffic conditions during the days because of lockdown and traffic now returning to normal the day drivers are all wanting to get onto nights because they can’t handle the crap on the roads on days anymore so are jumping onto any night work they can get.
I’ve a funny feeling that Truckulent hasn’t been doing the job very long and expects the industry works the same as whatever mind numbing 9-5 non-logistics sector job they came from.
Winseer:
There seems to still be a school of thought that goes
“Now we’ve tricked them into coming all this way, perhaps they’ll take the crappier-than-expected job, because they are utterly desperate for work, there’s no work around, and there’s no shortage.”
If you believe anything other than that - you walk, and curse them because they wasted your time.
If you’re really smart - you’ll ask for the assessor’s contact details the day before, and then get them to describe the job to you, withdrawing your entire application whilst on the phone - the moment the job is NOT what it said on the tin.
In general the alarm bells should ring if the words trunking and ‘‘drop/s’’ are combined unless the word ‘‘drop’’ is immediately followed by the words ‘‘a trailer’’.
This is all about an industry going down the local distribution service tubes because the government doesn’t want trucks being driven far but few drivers want to do local/distribution work.
DaveyW:
I’m noticing a trend with these agencies, my first angecy experience was last week, sent for assement at royal mail, after copying my licence and doing the assesment guy asks me have I drove class 1 on the last 6 months, I says no I’ve been driving class 2 the past 3 years, did you tell the agency this, yes, well they they shouldn’t have sent u, we require at class 1 experience in at least the past 12 months. So didn’t even get a drive lol.
Says everything about the ‘driver shortage’.
I’m guessing it was a real deal trunking job for which of course there’s no ‘driver shortage’.
Roymondo:
Regular trunk driver leaves, agency is asked to provide another one and recruits suitable candidate(s) . Meanwhile, unbeknown to agency one of the regular multi-drop drivers asks to be moved over to the trunking role. This sort of thing happens quite often.
This. Where I’m at it used to be night trunk drivers queuing up to get onto days but after a year of fantastic traffic conditions during the days because of lockdown and traffic now returning to normal the day drivers are all wanting to get onto nights because they can’t handle the crap on the roads on days anymore so are jumping onto any night work they can get.
I’ve a funny feeling that Truckulent hasn’t been doing the job very long and expects the industry works the same as whatever mind numbing 9-5 non-logistics sector job they came from.
Hahahahaha… Only 12 years in the job so yep completely new. All that time I’ve worked on agency or direct. I’ve driven every sort of tractor unit and pulled almost every type of trailer at some point. I’ve done city centre multi drop in artics as well as trunking. I’ve done everything from removals to containers on days and on nights.
It’s not a lack of experience, it’s a case of not being prepared to be walked all over and standing up for what is right.
The upshot of my experience today will be 8 hours pay for doing nothing but turn up. They were wrong and they know it. I’m not interested in their mismanagement of staff, I just expect not to be lied to. It isnt and inevitability as you have pointed out elsewhere Conor.
If you’re prepared to accept being lied to with a shrug and say “that’s how it is” then that is of course your prerogative.
Personally, I am not - and as a result won’t be the bloke that gets metaphorically trampled on.
You have not a clue what background I am from - 9-5 couldn’t be more wrong.
My situation at the moment. I spent the last two months at Stobie, what a ■■■■■■■■ [emoji23]
Anyway ad pops up on Facebook. Trunking easy fridge work no handball, new trucks bla bla bla. I knew who they advertise for and the only lie was the no handball bit. I went with it cuz I know the company and apparently they were busy. Well they are, already pumped in 40 hrs in 3 days [emoji2357][emoji2357]
