I mean if the assessor/driver agreed with him it’s kind of obvious that the agency lied about…cough…misrepresented the job
I also walked out from an induction at DPD. Guy goes - No stop policy so if you have an unexpected stop (ie you need a ■■■■) you’d have to ring the office and get a stop number. Can’t find your own way, you can only use the routes we provide [emoji2357] Can only take breaks in certain locations but not at services or lay-bys.
I said, that’s enough for me mate [emoji16] Grand a week or not you need robots, not drivers
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Conor:
Truckulent:
Conor:
How the hell do you all seem to find agencies like this? I’ve been doing agency work since the early 90s, have worked for quite a few and never come across any of the stuff that you lot post about. Is it just that we get a better standard of agency in Hull area? Or is it you have some unrealistic expectations of what agency work is going to be like?Agency advertise a role as long distance one/two drop trunking.
Book me in for a driver assessment and site induction.Turn up to a multi drop local shift.
Hardly unrealistic to expect the former when it has been advertised as such and has been confirmed via text and on the phone.
My wife went for a job interview at a sign company in Hull last week, advertised by the company as 8am-4.30pm. When she got to the interview she was told it was 6am-6pm. It isn’t just agencies who advertise one thing and when you get there it’s something else.
Maybe you’re just easy to please and happy to be lied to - and still dig in and do as you’re told… [emoji108]
Or maybe I’ve been driving lorries long enough to know that there’s no guarantees of anything in this job at all other than very few plans survive first contact.
You’re new to lorry driving aren’t you, first ever experience? The only thing you can ever guarantee in this job is the earliest you can start the following day and that’s only because of the rules on minimum daily and weekly rest but even your start time can change by hours within minutes of your shift starting even if you’re employed.
It’s agency work which makes that even more likely it’s going to change on a dime often because between the time the company contacts the agency and the time the driver turns up the situation has changed if it’s anything more than a few hours.
If you’re not prepared to accept that things change on a dime and often quite considerably then you really should be questioning whether you should be driving lorries at all.
It’s a ‘change’ that went from a trunking run to multi drop what a surprise.
Fine so the client and the agency will have no problem with paying for travel time and travel costs for the misrepresented job.But I wouldn’t bother with trying to get 8 hours fo a shift I hadn’t worked.
Bearing in mind the OP would have turned it down if he’d been told before leaving.
Class 1 driver specifically wants trunking not multi drop and you think that’s good reason to push someone out of the job in a supposed class 1 driver shortage environment.
A similar situation happened to me when a supposed class 1 trunk, which I knew was likely to be dodgy on days, turned into a 7.5t multi drop run on arrival.
I got an apology from the client for being stitched up, after I did 8 drops and brought the rest back what wasn’t left on the warehouse floor when I left the depot.Forget about the collections.But with hindsight I would/should have walked away on arrival.
The truth is there is a driver shortage of drivers prepared to do zb work and the industry is turning into one that’s full of too much of it.
DSMRookie:
I also walked out from an induction at DPD. Guy goes - No stop policy so if you have an unexpected stop (ie you need a ■■■■) you’d have to ring the office and get a stop number. Can’t find your own way, you can only use the routes we provide [emoji2357] Can only take breaks in certain locations but not at services or lay-bys.I said, that’s enough for me mate [emoji16] Grand a week or not you need robots, not drivers
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Mate, you are aware of what DPD transport aren’t you? If you’re struggling, it’ll be the same at Royal Mail, Hermes, UPS and all other parcel delivery firms. These are generally the sort of things thieves most want. Easily disposable small items. Did you know DPD cannot use the A5 after 10pm as they have been hijacked previously. If your bladder is so weak that you need to ■■■■ in between depots, driving will definitely be a challenge. A bit of cop on would have saved you a wasted journey there bud.
LazyDriver:
DSMRookie:
I also walked out from an induction at DPD. Guy goes - No stop policy so if you have an unexpected stop (ie you need a ■■■■) you’d have to ring the office and get a stop number. Can’t find your own way, you can only use the routes we provide [emoji2357] Can only take breaks in certain locations but not at services or lay-bys.I said, that’s enough for me mate [emoji16] Grand a week or not you need robots, not drivers
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Mate, you are aware of what DPD transport aren’t you? If you’re struggling, it’ll be the same at Royal Mail, Hermes, UPS and all other parcel delivery firms. These are generally the sort of things thieves most want. Easily disposable small items. Did you know DPD cannot use the A5 after 10pm as they have been hijacked previously. If your bladder is so weak that you need to ■■■■ in between depots, driving will definitely be a challenge. A bit of cop on would have saved you a wasted journey there bud.
It was definitely a waste of time. The guy who contacted me from them was telling me all these good stories and it sounded too good to be true. Oh and after your shift you have to walk through a full on airport body heat scanner machine- again I understand why, but no thanks [emoji16]
I understand why they do it to be honest, it’s just not for me.
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Truckulent:
Each to their own.
Yep and you will be sat there earning £0 heating your home with the warm feeling of smugness you get for “standing by your principles” whilst someone else who has a full understanding of how transport and agencies work will be going down the road earning the several hundred quid a week you could have been doing.
Conor:
Truckulent:
Each to their own.Yep and you will be sat there earning £0 heating your home with the warm feeling of smugness you get for “standing by your principles” whilst someone else who has a full understanding of how transport and agencies work will be going down the road earning the several hundred quid a week you could have been doing.
Not so far mate. I’m not struggling to heat my 5 bedroom home thanks. Nor to run my rather nice motorcycle. And my principles are all in tact - at least I have some rather than prostituting myself out of desperation to fit in as many drivers do…
Stop trying to justify your view by demeaning my experience. You just hope I will because you do as you’re told. [emoji2357]
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I don’t necessarily have an issue with an unpaid induction if it is a couple of hours, a short drive and a reverse. The issue I have is when the assessor says, right now put your card in.
I think, hang on, I’m not working, not being paid and I’m not delivering anything, therefore I am out of scope.
Putting your card in could easily see you lose a day of work later in the week or whatever because you haven’t had enough rest.
Another nark is when the assessor says “give me your cards and write your NI number on a piece of paper”. You know fine well he is going to go on the interweb and effectively pretend to be you accessing your licence details. Completely illegal and a random driver pretending to be an assessor has no business knowing your NI number. It is like asking for your bank details ffs. This sort of information can be used for identity theft or fraud.
Another slightly annoying one (although usually I don’t have infringements) is when the assessor comes back having photocopied my cards and announces that he has downloaded and had a look at my driver card information. Hang on, you’re not my employer yet and you didn’t ask for permission to download my card!
Anybody else think the same, or just me?
I got a induction at every place I was sent to on agency from there/company drivers on how long the job should take , took no notice .
Noremac:
I don’t necessarily have an issue with an unpaid induction if it is a couple of hours, a short drive and a reverse. The issue I have is when the assessor says, right now put your card in.I think, hang on, I’m not working, not being paid and I’m not delivering anything, therefore I am out of scope.
Putting your card in could easily see you lose a day of work later in the week or whatever because you haven’t had enough rest.
Another nark is when the assessor says “give me your cards and write your NI number on a piece of paper”. You know fine well he is going to go on the interweb and effectively pretend to be you accessing your licence details. Completely illegal and a random driver pretending to be an assessor has no business knowing your NI number. It is like asking for your bank details ffs. This sort of information can be used for identity theft or fraud.
Another slightly annoying one (although usually I don’t have infringements) is when the assessor comes back having photocopied my cards and announces that he has downloaded and had a look at my driver card information. Hang on, you’re not my employer yet and you didn’t ask for permission to download my card!
Anybody else think the same, or just me?
It’s a bit of both. They usually want a share code don’t they? To access the share code they need you NI anyway. But if he is asking it on behalf of the company surely you’re protected under GDPR [emoji2369]
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You get the share code yourself and pass it on.
They do not need your NI number.
DSMRookie:
LazyDriver:
DSMRookie:
I also walked out from an induction at DPD. Guy goes - No stop policy so if you have an unexpected stop (ie you need a ■■■■) you’d have to ring the office and get a stop number. Can’t find your own way, you can only use the routes we provide [emoji2357] Can only take breaks in certain locations but not at services or lay-bys.I said, that’s enough for me mate [emoji16] Grand a week or not you need robots, not drivers
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Mate, you are aware of what DPD transport aren’t you? If you’re struggling, it’ll be the same at Royal Mail, Hermes, UPS and all other parcel delivery firms. These are generally the sort of things thieves most want. Easily disposable small items. Did you know DPD cannot use the A5 after 10pm as they have been hijacked previously. If your bladder is so weak that you need to ■■■■ in between depots, driving will definitely be a challenge. A bit of cop on would have saved you a wasted journey there bud.
It was definitely a waste of time. The guy who contacted me from them was telling me all these good stories and it sounded too good to be true. Oh and after your shift you have to walk through a full on airport body heat scanner machine- again I understand why, but no thanks [emoji16]
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Unfortunately due to the ageing driver population and various illnesses, if all drivers with a weak bladder gave up driving there really would be a crisis. I also will not work somewhere where I need permission to use the loo. That doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be driving, it just means finding a role where I can decide where and when to stop. If that means no parcel companies, I can live with that.
LazyDriver:
DSMRookie:
I also walked out from an induction at DPD. Guy goes - No stop policy so if you have an unexpected stop (ie you need a ■■■■) you’d have to ring the office and get a stop number. Can’t find your own way, you can only use the routes we provide [emoji2357] Can only take breaks in certain locations but not at services or lay-bys.I said, that’s enough for me mate [emoji16] Grand a week or not you need robots, not drivers
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Mate, you are aware of what DPD transport aren’t you? If you’re struggling, it’ll be the same at Royal Mail, Hermes, UPS and all other parcel delivery firms. These are generally the sort of things thieves most want. Easily disposable small items. Did you know DPD cannot use the A5 after 10pm as they have been hijacked previously. If your bladder is so weak that you need to ■■■■ in between depots, driving will definitely be a challenge. A bit of cop on would have saved you a wasted journey there bud.
Sorry to be boringly pedantic, but Royal Mail is not a parcel delivery firm. It’s the Universal service provider and is required to provide a universal postal service 6 days a week.
Conor:
Roymondo:
Regular trunk driver leaves, agency is asked to provide another one and recruits suitable candidate(s) . Meanwhile, unbeknown to agency one of the regular multi-drop drivers asks to be moved over to the trunking role. This sort of thing happens quite often.This. Where I’m at it used to be night trunk drivers queuing up to get onto days but after a year of fantastic traffic conditions during the days because of lockdown and traffic now returning to normal the day drivers are all wanting to get onto nights because they can’t handle the crap on the roads on days anymore so are jumping onto any night work they can get.
Not sure about easier traffic conditions on days, at night they now seem to shut most of the trunk road down for roadworks.
I’ve a funny feeling that Truckulent hasn’t been doing the job very long and expects the industry works the same as whatever mind numbing 9-5 non-logistics sector job they came from.
grumpybum:
DSMRookie:
LazyDriver:
DSMRookie:
I also walked out from an induction at DPD. Guy goes - No stop policy so if you have an unexpected stop (ie you need a ■■■■) you’d have to ring the office and get a stop number. Can’t find your own way, you can only use the routes we provide [emoji2357] Can only take breaks in certain locations but not at services or lay-bys.I said, that’s enough for me mate [emoji16] Grand a week or not you need robots, not drivers
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Mate, you are aware of what DPD transport aren’t you? If you’re struggling, it’ll be the same at Royal Mail, Hermes, UPS and all other parcel delivery firms. These are generally the sort of things thieves most want. Easily disposable small items. Did you know DPD cannot use the A5 after 10pm as they have been hijacked previously. If your bladder is so weak that you need to ■■■■ in between depots, driving will definitely be a challenge. A bit of cop on would have saved you a wasted journey there bud.
It was definitely a waste of time. The guy who contacted me from them was telling me all these good stories and it sounded too good to be true. Oh and after your shift you have to walk through a full on airport body heat scanner machine- again I understand why, but no thanks [emoji16]
I understand why they do it to be honest, it’s just not for me.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Unfortunately due to the ageing driver population and various illnesses, if all drivers with a weak bladder gave up driving there really would be a crisis. I also will not work somewhere where I need permission to use the loo. That doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be driving, it just means finding a role where I can decide where and when to stop. If that means no parcel companies, I can live with that.
No mate! You can’t drive now!!! Let me know how the job search is going and what you went with [emoji16]
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sweepster:
LazyDriver:
DSMRookie:
I also walked out from an induction at DPD. Guy goes - No stop policy so if you have an unexpected stop (ie you need a ■■■■) you’d have to ring the office and get a stop number. Can’t find your own way, you can only use the routes we provide [emoji2357] Can only take breaks in certain locations but not at services or lay-bys.I said, that’s enough for me mate [emoji16] Grand a week or not you need robots, not drivers
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Mate, you are aware of what DPD transport aren’t you? If you’re struggling, it’ll be the same at Royal Mail, Hermes, UPS and all other parcel delivery firms. These are generally the sort of things thieves most want. Easily disposable small items. Did you know DPD cannot use the A5 after 10pm as they have been hijacked previously. If your bladder is so weak that you need to ■■■■ in between depots, driving will definitely be a challenge. A bit of cop on would have saved you a wasted journey there bud.
Sorry to be boringly pedantic, but Royal Mail is not a parcel delivery firm. It’s the Universal service provider and is required to provide a universal postal service 6 days a week.
If we’re going down the pedantic route, Royal mail parcelforce is indeed a parcel service, offering 12, 24 & 48hr delivery as well as the regular parcel delivery service. But the Royal mail group admittedly encompasses many different strings to their bow!
There’s a post or two on here that complained that they were denied an assessment due to being asked if they had driven class 1 in the last year. Followed by vilification of the agency. Here’s some free advice;
Question - have you driven class 1 in the ladt year?
Answer - Yes.
Try it next time and see what happens, (if you’re confident in your abilities) 
LazyDriver:
There’s a post or two on here that complained that they were denied an assessment due to being asked if they had driven class 1 in the last year. Followed by vilification of the agency. Here’s some free advice;
Question - have you driven class 1 in the ladt year?
Answer - Yes.
Try it next time and see what happens, (if you’re confident in your abilities)
There’s not much point in them calling for it if they didn’t include the requirement must be checkable assuming it’s an insurance requirement.Even an ex owner driver can be asked to provide details of their former insurer for checking.
While a false insurance declaration to the employer could mean bankruptcy if the insurer then refused a claim based on that excuse.
My answer would be there’s a ‘driver shortage’ so why impose the condition even if it means a higher insurance premium.
LazyDriver:
There’s a post or two on here that complained that they were denied an assessment due to being asked if they had driven class 1 in the last year. Followed by vilification of the agency. Here’s some free advice;
Question - have you driven class 1 in the ladt year?
Answer - Yes.
Try it next time and see what happens, (if you’re confident in your abilities)
That’s excellent advice, it’s a case of once you get to first base your in the door, so just tell them what they want to hear
LazyDriver:
sweepster:
LazyDriver:
DSMRookie:
I also walked out from an induction at DPD. Guy goes - No stop policy so if you have an unexpected stop (ie you need a ■■■■) you’d have to ring the office and get a stop number. Can’t find your own way, you can only use the routes we provide [emoji2357] Can only take breaks in certain locations but not at services or lay-bys.I said, that’s enough for me mate [emoji16] Grand a week or not you need robots, not drivers
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Mate, you are aware of what DPD transport aren’t you? If you’re struggling, it’ll be the same at Royal Mail, Hermes, UPS and all other parcel delivery firms. These are generally the sort of things thieves most want. Easily disposable small items. Did you know DPD cannot use the A5 after 10pm as they have been hijacked previously. If your bladder is so weak that you need to ■■■■ in between depots, driving will definitely be a challenge. A bit of cop on would have saved you a wasted journey there bud.
Sorry to be boringly pedantic, but Royal Mail is not a parcel delivery firm. It’s the Universal service provider and is required to provide a universal postal service 6 days a week.
If we’re going down the pedantic route, Royal mail parcelforce is indeed a parcel service, offering 12, 24 & 48hr delivery as well as the regular parcel delivery service. But the Royal mail group admittedly encompasses many different strings to their bow!
As you said, Parcelforce is the dedicated parcel arm of Royal Mail. Royal Mail itself, is the Universal service provider, with a commitment to deliver letters 6 days a week. It is not a parcel company. The Royal Mail Group, again as you said, owns a lot of companies worldwide including parcel companies.