Vosa reckon

Got back to the yard this afternoon, and one of the blokes had a pull from Vosa, everything fine, but they did tell him, that the law has now changed, and anything over half a ton must be stropped, palletised or not. Anyone else heard it? I strop most things anyway, but if this is new, there could be a few fines handed out

degsy4wheels:
Got back to the yard this afternoon, and one of the blokes had a pull from Vosa, everything fine, but they did tell him, that the law has now changed, and anything over half a ton must be stropped, palletised or not. Anyone else heard it? I strop most things anyway, but if this is new, there could be a few fines handed out

if you get the strop with most things, as you say, then driving is really not for you :wink: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Yeah heard the same thing, same rules apply in Germany, and it’s a €200 fine for every strap that’s missing or not used…

Yes I have heard this and also that regardless of weight, a box-van/trailer should have a bar across the last pallets.

shuttlespanker, you really are in the wrong job, you could write Bruce Forsyths jokes mate. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

neil1024:
Yes I have heard this and also that regardless of weight, a box-van/trailer should have a bar across the last pallets.

can’t see that somehow, the idea of strapping is to stop the load coming out of or off of the trailer, ie through the curtains, that can’t happen on a box. mine doesn’t even have a place to lock a back bar in, mind you not carried any pallets now for 2 years on my walking floor, even when I did there was no where for them to go :sunglasses: :sunglasses: :sunglasses: :sunglasses:

wildfire:

neil1024:
Yes I have heard this and also that regardless of weight, a box-van/trailer should have a bar across the last pallets.

can’t see that somehow, the idea of strapping is to stop the load coming out of or off of the trailer, ie through the curtains, that can’t happen on a box. mine doesn’t even have a place to lock a back bar in, mind you not carried any pallets now for 2 years on my walking floor, even when I did there was no where for them to go :sunglasses: :sunglasses: :sunglasses: :sunglasses:

What about pallets falling backwards and resting onto doors and injuring the person that opens them?

neil1024:
Yes I have heard this and also that regardless of weight, a box-van/trailer should have a bar across the last pallets.

Can’t see that besides bars at our place are like gold dust.

years ago they used to say “think” bike …cant say I ever opened the door without thinking if something came out that door it would hurt …so guess what only ever opened em a bit and and had a little look still not dead or had anything fall on me …

cliffystephens:
years ago they used to say “think” bike …cant say I ever opened the door without thinking if something came out that door it would hurt …so guess what only ever opened em a bit and and had a little look still not dead or had anything fall on me …

you really want to try doing containers :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

we deliver man hole covers, have to reverse down a ramp, when they cut the seal off, they put the forklift up to the doors, about a foot gap, then open the doors, the forklift stops everything falling out and squashing you :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

The bars in box bodies are a restraint that’s needed to be in place to prevent injury to the driver or anybody else opening the back doors if the load has shifted towards the rear under acceleration.

shuttlespanker:

cliffystephens:
years ago they used to say “think” bike …cant say I ever opened the door without thinking if something came out that door it would hurt …so guess what only ever opened em a bit and and had a little look still not dead or had anything fall on me …

you really want to try doing containers :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

we deliver man hole covers, have to reverse down a ramp, when they cut the seal off, they put the forklift up to the doors, about a foot gap, then open the doors, the forklift stops everything falling out and squashing you :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

no thanks … will just go to Falmouth tomoz with son… one pipe 50ft long 9ft wide "… 4 straps…

Retro rob:

wildfire:

neil1024:
Yes I have heard this and also that regardless of weight, a box-van/trailer should have a bar across the last pallets.

can’t see that somehow, the idea of strapping is to stop the load coming out of or off of the trailer, ie through the curtains, that can’t happen on a box. mine doesn’t even have a place to lock a back bar in, mind you not carried any pallets now for 2 years on my walking floor, even when I did there was no where for them to go :sunglasses: :sunglasses: :sunglasses: :sunglasses:

What about pallets falling backwards and resting onto doors and injuring the person that opens them?

when I loaded 26 pallets they were touching the back doors, you want to open the doors up on mine when I have a full load of broken wood, it release one handle and hold the outer till your ready then run like hell when you let go, because its going to chase you :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

degsy4wheels:
Got back to the yard this afternoon, and one of the blokes had a pull from Vosa, everything fine, but they did tell him, that the law has now changed, and anything over half a ton must be stropped, palletised or not. Anyone else heard it? I strop most things anyway, but if this is new, there could be a few fines handed out

Who is going to decide if it’s over or under half a ton? Is it Tonnes for european hauliers and tons for UK ones? Are they going to unload it and weigh it?

Something not right about this.

Straps are for noobs. Professional don’t need or use them. :sunglasses:

Rob K:
Straps are for noobs. Professional don’t need or use them. :sunglasses:

correct, I’ve never strapped owt on :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing:

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Who is going to decide if it’s over or under half a ton? Is it Tonnes for european hauliers and tons for UK ones? Are they going to unload it and weigh .
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any pallets we pick up have a label giving description and weight , the paperwork also states the description and weights of individual pallets with a total weight at the bottom . not suggesting all pallets are like this ,but the ones we collect are.

syramax:
Who is going to decide if it’s over or under half a ton? Is it Tonnes for european hauliers and tons for UK ones? Are they going to unload it and weigh .

any pallets we pick up have a label giving description and weight , the paperwork also states the description and weights of individual pallets with a total weight at the bottom . not suggesting all pallets are like this ,but the ones we collect are.

From experience I’d advise taking such details with a large pinch of salt. BGP at Bicester have been caught many times fiddling the pallet weights to make the load appear lighter than it actually is so they can load you with 52 pallets on a decker each saying 500kg. Oddly when you ask for them to be weighed, supervisor Lynne (who is actually a bloke :open_mouth: ) claims that their scales are always broken or “unavailable” so you’re not left with much other choice but to take his/her word for it. No scales are open at 2 in the morning anywhere so what else are you meant to do? Last guy who took a load out of there managed to get one of these 500kg pallets weighed up north somewhere and the actual weight was 1050kg :open_mouth: and he’d pulled 50 of them 100 miles up the road :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: .

What about folks carrying livestock? Cows can weigh over 500kg. Are you gonna have to strap them down? :wink::wink:

BluBeard:
What about folks carrying livestock? Cows can weigh over 500kg. Are you gonna have to strap them down? :wink::wink:

yes.