A week past Friday I was in C.J.Langs (SPAR) Dundee. VOSA were also in there checking trucks as they came off the bay after unloading.
They did not come near me, presumably because I had a new vehicle.
As well as checking Tacho’s they inspected vehicles & trailers.
This is a new one on me, I am aware that if you are stopped in a public place, they can inspect, similary, if they get a police officer to stop trucks, ditto. (In Scotland. I have never seen the cars they use to stop trucks, that I have seen in England)
Since when can they enter private premises such as Lang’s and make checks on outsiders?
I have also heard that they have done this in Bookers / Iceland Livingstone, West Lothian.
Anyone know anything?
Alex
i was in tossco livingston about 2 weeks ago and they was in there checking a foreign plated truck whilst he was on a bay 
couldn’t believe my eyes,nor could the driver i was sat next to in the waiting room talking about it,unreal!!
Something ain’t right there. They have no right to stop you on private property. Also if I was on a bay and having to wait in a waiting room then I would be on tacho break, I would be resting in the room.
VOSA have probably given themselves the rights to do whatever they want and no doubt the forum ■■■ kissers will be along soon to tell us how lucky we are and inform us of verse and chapter that we are honoured to obey.
vosa can only carry out checks on private property with the owners consent
But if the owner runs trucks, he’d be putting himself in the firing line of the VOSA gestapo if he said no wouldn’t he and these folk have too much power for them that try to work within the rules, but none for those who totally disregard them.
scotstrucker:
vosa can only carry out checks on private property with the owners consent
i thought that too,and “apparently they got it” in there!!
every little helps and all that bollox
tossers!!
A mate of mine was at Iceland Livingston & VOSA were round checking on what modes’ drivers were on whilst tipping.
vosa have always been sniffing around livingstone tesco, fyffes, lidl,iceland, and there the same in dundee when tesco was there and at langs it aint new it just is there now doing it inside instead of outside the gate.
scotstrucker:
vosa have always been sniffing around livingstone tesco, fyffes, lidl,iceland, and there the same in dundee when tesco was there and at langs it aint new it just is there now doing it inside instead of outside the gate.
its not right though??if your sat in a ■■■■■■ waiting area they take the ■■■■ at tapping your wheels and ■■■■ whilst on a bay,shocking behaviour it really is,is it right they are now self funded and keep most of the fines and give a percentage to the muppets who run this “■■■■■■■
What would happen if you walked back to your truck unaware they were checking it over and pulled off the bay injuring one, or belted him when you see someone messing about with your truck while you are away from it?
the problem with some vosa officals (not all of them) is that they think they are the law and can do what they want and where they want. i watched two vosa enforcement officers get escorted out of cairn lodge services one night by the owner of the said premisis, i asked the man how he was able to do that and he told me the law on private property(thats how i know they got to ask for permission to check trucks) and he said he dosent want them on his property harrasing drivers who have done there days work and are relaxing + they affect his trade as drivers will either see them in there or be told on cb and wont stop there
DoYouMeanMe?:
What would happen if you walked back to your truck unaware they were checking it over and pulled off the bay injuring one, or belted him when you see someone messing about with your truck while you are away from it?
i would think there would be very serious repercussions if you were to slap a vosa offical, was there not a forgien driver jailed for punching a vosa offical last year?
if you injured one could be diffrent as when they are tapping underneath they usaly have some one beside you to make sure you dont do that
DoYouMeanMe?:
But if the owner runs trucks, he’d be putting himself in the firing line of the VOSA gestapo if he said no wouldn’t he and these folk have too much power for them that try to work within the rules, but none for those who totally disregard them.
Funny enough Birkenhead docks would not allow VOSA inside. Neither did Liverpool docks, then for some reason Liverpool docks recently allowed them inside to check over vehicles in there. To the best of my knowledge not one tug was pulled whilst pulling trailers along with no lights or lenses on, but plenty of trucks where pulled that came off the same boats with all the lights working !! There is now a report out that suggests that the Inspection points may be sited in the wrong areas !! I think they make it up as they go along.
VOSA can only check on private property those trucks O licensed on that properrty, UNLESS the owner has given permission for VOSA to make checks on all vehicles under their remit,
If the owner has given them permission to enter their property to carry out checks then VOSA can check visiting vehicles
Scotstrucker
Only if you knew who he was.
If I walked back to my truck and saw a pair of legs sticking out from underneath, it would be an open invitation to his groin to feel my size 12’s. I’m all for having trucks roadworthy and safe, but I really think that too many people are being given too much power against the ones who play the game properly.
By that I mean that you shouldn’t be able to tax a truck unless you have an O licence or some class of exemption (Hire company, etc).
Maybe trucks from Southern Ireland shouldn’t be allowed to work full-time in the UK with absolutely no control on hours, some with no maintenance for 18 months (not hear-say. I actually went to buy them and I have never seen trucks so bad even as shunters).
Simple thing like this would get rid of some of the most dangerous vehicles on the road and then start on the rest, but surely, they should get rid of the real cowboys first.
at the end of the day if you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear regardless of where they check you out, best of it is though i was once old that they know the ones that are really tearing the ■■■ out the rule book and are just giving them enough rope to hang themselves and the ones who are doing it by the book
DoYouMeanMe?:
Scotstrucker
Only if you knew who he was.
If I walked back to my truck and saw a pair of legs sticking out from underneath, it would be an open invitation to his groin to feel my size 12’s. I’m all for having trucks roadworthy and safe, but I really think that too many people are being given too much power against the ones who play the game properly.By that I mean that you shouldn’t be able to tax a truck unless you have an O licence or some class of exemption (Hire company, etc).
Maybe trucks from Southern Ireland shouldn’t be allowed to work full-time in the UK with absolutely no control on hours, some with no maintenance for 18 months (not hear-say. I actually went to buy them and I have never seen trucks so bad as shunters).
Simple thing like this would get rid of some of the most dangerous vehicles on the road and then start on the rest, but surely, they should get rid of the real cowboys first.
lol yes the temptation might be too much and you would maybe think you were rooney takin a spot kick lol what an eyewatering thought
Very odd place Liverpool docks:
Entrance is barriered & police patrolled, so you might say the general public do not have access. But speed limits apply & motoring law applies on the assumption the public has access. Speed guns are also used.
So whilst you as a truck driver can get nicked for speeding or a moving traffic offence, tugs are flying up and down running on red with knackered tyres pulling trailers with no lenses on, something they can ONLY be permitted to do on a PRIVATE road!
i quite ofton load off a firm that are in based in liverpool docks and last time i was there ( november last year) the owner of the firm said that they had recived a letter that vosa were now allowed to do checks within the harbour.