In my opinion(which, let’s face it, isn’t worth much!) the Volvo F88 was a better motor than the Scania. But I didn’t have to pay the bills!
ramone:
Bewick:
I can congratulate anyone who has both the time,patience and finance to rebuild any old motor of whatever make and best of luck Phil with your endeavours! However, as far as the venerable F86 goes I can say that I did consider,very seriously,buying a few in the early 70’s as I was offered a more than generous deal by our local dealer.But my decision not to take up their very tempting offer proved to be the correct one,I thought they were underpowered for 32 ton operation and the cab was not really a sleeper although Volvo maintained it was,well it was termed a “rest cab” ?IIRC.I did eventually buy a number of F88’s which were a totally different proposition,although not quite a Scania they did us a fair job!! Cheers Bewick.They did earn money for quite a few hauliers though Dennis ,A One ran them and so did ACL in Leeds to name a couple.I suppose its horses for courses,what suits 1 may not suit another
Fair comment “ramone”,I held a similar opinion about the Scania 80 so the first Scanias into the fleet were 111’s although we did run a number of 81’s from the later 70’s which were a lot different “go to work” than the 80’s.I then went down the Scania route for many years with the odd Volvo sprinkled in amongst !! Cheers Dennis.
Retired Old ■■■■:
In my opinion(which, let’s face it, isn’t worth much!) the Volvo F88 was a better motor than the Scania. But I didn’t have to pay the bills!
Each to his own ROF,and the argument will rage on for years no doubt!! We ran both marques at Bewick Transport,albeit many more Scanny’s than Volvos and while the Volvos gave us decent service,IMHO,the Scanias were a superior motor in all respects,but that is only my opinion which,of course,is somewhat worthless to-day !!Cheers Bewick.
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I believe I saw that one not far from my home in the mid-80s!
Bewick:
ramone:
Bewick:
I can congratulate anyone who has both the time,patience and finance to rebuild any old motor of whatever make and best of luck Phil with your endeavours! However, as far as the venerable F86 goes I can say that I did consider,very seriously,buying a few in the early 70’s as I was offered a more than generous deal by our local dealer.But my decision not to take up their very tempting offer proved to be the correct one,I thought they were underpowered for 32 ton operation and the cab was not really a sleeper although Volvo maintained it was,well it was termed a “rest cab” ?IIRC.I did eventually buy a number of F88’s which were a totally different proposition,although not quite a Scania they did us a fair job!! Cheers Bewick.They did earn money for quite a few hauliers though Dennis ,A One ran them and so did ACL in Leeds to name a couple.I suppose its horses for courses,what suits 1 may not suit another
Fair comment “ramone”,I held a similar opinion about the Scania 80 so the first Scanias into the fleet were 111’s although we did run a number of 81’s from the later 70’s which were a lot different “go to work” than the 80’s.I then went down the Scania route for many years with the odd Volvo sprinkled in amongst !! Cheers Dennis.
I think the F86 was aimed at the bread and butter market ,in a way a fleet motor, much in the way that the CF Daf is today
They were underpowered but that was typical of the majority of the market in 67 when they arrived with i suppose Volvo and Scania introducing a new market with the F88 and the 110 .AEC had started developing the V8 in the early 60s and we all know where that ended up so really the F86 with its small turbocharged engine and 8 speed box could compete against the likes of 180 Gardners and AV760s, 680 Leylands and the likes head on .The F88s and 110s were a step up ,and just for the record i too prefered the Scanias to Volvos … just sayin 
Hi a bit belgian history. for us over here; The 86 was a very good lorry and was plated for 38/40 gross weight,as did the 85/86 scania’s.
Which were underpowered too of course,but the F86 was very very good motor.they were not much used over here for the 38/40tons but were strong enough to do it, and stand up above other makes.They were a bit fleet ( bread and butter )trucks.On the other hand the Scania’s 85/86 in the turbo 200HP class were not very good motors,head gaskets, not reliable a bit like the first F2200 Daf’s so the Scania’s 76/110 without turbo were more bought as a low priced max weight motor,in the 200HP class.
Cheers Eric,
At last had a dry day and got the sand blasting started most of the cab donr then he ran out of sand,but it’s a start so the gave it a coat of etch primer. the blasting has shown up a few more holes but not as many as thought it would. so this weekend am going to try and get all the hole plated and the front panel back on. the blaster says he will be back on the next dry day,fingers crossed
Hey philip, It begins to look more and more nice after all the work you did,skilled labour. And hands up for the sandblaster’s job he did, which is one of the hardest and dirtiest works of restauration.
Cheers Eric,
Hi all I have been doing a bit more at the cab, The front panel at the drivers side and rear of the cab have been filled and flatted back,I have had the mudguards and dashboard blasted,the dash has been painted also thr inside of the front panel
I have started to put a few things back in the cab also.
Phil
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keith 2:
Philip Allanby:
Evening all I’ve been doing a bit more to the cab,I removed the panel under the cab floor and step as the panel had some holes in it.
Also the the lower door hinge has had to be remade. I have then refitted the door to see if it fits before I make the new door skin.
I hope to get some shot blasting done (if it ever stops bloody raining) to the inside of the cab and the inner front panel.
So here are some more photos Phil
wot a brilliant job you are doing there,start work in 1976/77 when the last ones came out ,i worked for a one transport leeds,and saw meny got repanaled due to rust,sill working on volvos to this day at a dealership,keith
Proper Craftsmanship going on here!
I love that feeling where everybody now sees what you did in the begining. I used to hate the comments of why has he bought that old nail for.Well done it looks great
I ain’t no expert but what you’ve done and where you’re going looks fantastic Phil. I hope to see some shots of your wagon on the show circuit (if that’s where you’re headed). Much as I like shots of the more famous ‘glamour girls’ (F88-290/ F89 F12/F16 Globetrotters, 141/ 142 etc.) I think the workhorses are under-represented, I’d like to see more F86s, its F7 successor or a Scania 81.
Yes I agree its nice too see the humble F86 being restored . I like the F88/89 s of course but yes its nice to see them .
I think I have shown this picture before but I’ m sending it again ! Tony
Two more . Tony
Sorry the pictures are crap my camera was ! Well that’s my excuse !
Have you had any opportunities to do any more work on the Volvo Phillip ? Enjoy looking at your progress of restoration. 
Hi I’ve been doing a bit more work getting the cab ready for paint, I am going to prime it and paint the inside but leave the top coat to a man that can
Phil
Philip Allanby:
Hi I’ve been doing a bit more work getting the cab ready for paint, I am going to prime it and paint the inside but leave the top coat to a man that can
Phil
After seeing the photos of your sheet-metal work, I am surprised you do not want to do the bit that everyone sees yourself. Compared with the skill required to do what you have already done, spraying is a doddle. Still, each to his own, and 100% respect to you for a truly excellent restoration.
Looking good so far, Phil, but I would have thought that you would have been out in the yard with a dustpan & brush recycling all that sand 
After all the rust had been blasted off the sand was more like talc than sand so it just blue away