dieseldog999:
but…was it a spear and jackson number 4 with a double copper rivetted handle,or just some cheapo flipflop metric effort??
an interesting evening with Eric Olthwaite taking about shovels.
what a ripping yarn that was…though barnstoneworth united and escape from stalag luft 112b were my favourite other two… 
dieseldog999:
what a ripping yarn that was…though barnstoneworth united and escape from stalag luft 112b were my favourite other two…
Mine too.
Although Manchester police tweeted that they had located the vehicle there’s now a report on ITV website that the force have now said said the vehicle had in fact not been found, the plot thickens 
peterm:
dieseldog999:
what a ripping yarn that was…though barnstoneworth united and escape from stalag luft 112b were my favourite other two…Mine too.
I have always loved the car scene
tachograph:
Although Manchester police tweeted that they had located the vehicle there’s now a report on ITV website that the force have now said said the vehicle had in fact not been found, the plot thickens
I reckon that translates to “found suspect vehicle, it’s parked up in a local travellers’ camp. Case closed.”
Muckaway:
tachograph:
Although Manchester police tweeted that they had located the vehicle there’s now a report on ITV website that the force have now said said the vehicle had in fact not been found, the plot thickensI reckon that translates to “found suspect vehicle, it’s parked up in a local travellers’ camp. Case closed.”
More like a vehicle matching the general description was found there and only after the use of ethnic profiling was ruled out.On grounds that it wasn’t in the public interest to use it in such a sensitive case involving foreign national representation of two of our most important strategic allies.Meanwhile negotiations between Kahn and Orys to diffuse any resulting international tensions continue. 
BREXIT…Bring it on!!!..
And if the vehicle you own is caught on a speed camera, you don’t declare to driving yourself; don’t declare who was driving that vehicle, then it would all come out in the wash in court.
That motor I see in the video footage is a 7.5 tonner valid that should have Tacho head in it. Does’nt the VU not give a printout of the Operators status and the vehicle driver(s) status?
Muckaway:
tachograph:
Although Manchester police tweeted that they had located the vehicle there’s now a report on ITV website that the force have now said said the vehicle had in fact not been found, the plot thickensI reckon that translates to “found suspect vehicle, it’s parked up in a local travellers’ camp. Case closed.”
“Found suspect vehicle, but it’s registered to someone above the law, someone who thinks they are above the law - or ARE the law.”
simon1958:
BREXIT…Bring it on!!!..
We’ll all notice a massive drop in traffic in the South East of England in particular - when Brexit is finally on track for completion by any actual future date, such as Easter 2017. I reckon we’ll end up changing our government before we’ll get Brexit even started properly though.
The PM, Home Secretary, and Chancellor are all Remainers:-
All the PM need do is lie about Brexit’s progress,
All the Home Secretary need do is "take away the guys found in the backs of vehicles, give them an NI number, a council house, and access to our women looking to get knocked up for a life on benefits out of school - and Bingo - She need not actually deport anyone, which would be popular to the local population, but clearly goes against her own ethos.
All the Chancellor need do is keep on acting like “the future is going to be worse than today”, and if that looks like it’s not happening (as at the moment) then find some way to f— up the economy before the next election, so that Brexit can be blamed for all ills, despite the fact that it’s yet to actually be started let along implemented fully. 
Winseer:
I reckon we’ll end up changing our government before we’ll get Brexit even started properly though.The PM, Home Secretary, and Chancellor are all Remainers:-
We’ll probably get a new government but it will be a LibDemLab coalition not a UKIP one.Which going by the Richmond Park by election zb up is what the Cons actually want. 
Which believe it or not actually ended up in its pro EU electorate openly now supporting the idea of Heathrow expansion in the local media in order to de rail Brexit.
Only on trucknet could a road rage incident turn into a brexit discussion
truckerjimbo:
Snudger:
To quote exactly, the R2 reporter said that the police said “… they have no concerns that it was illegally driven …” (in terms of tax and insurance) and “it wasn’t being driven illegally”. I presume those statements are true but who knows? They are certainly after him for something more than driving without due care and attention. If the police can’t ascertain the facts, the insurers will be able to determine who’s liable and it’s Mr Red Mist who will be paying in some way. I’m sure they know who it is by now anyway with all the publicity. I don’t believe there’s anything racially-motivated about this attack - it’s just OTT road rage. The guy should’ve been laid out when he got on the step (self-defence) but probably it’s for the best that’s as far as the escalation went.R2 reporter and police on talking bull.
6 points and £500 for truck owner for failing to supply details of driver. But alot cheaper fine than if they can ID the driver. Maybe £20K plus
Police cant be bothered to trace the driver!!!
Who gets the 6 points, if it is the yard that gets the fine? If it’s an owner driver of course, then the driver doesn’t need to be “refusing to give out driver’s details” - not if he’s got “Joe Bloggs Haulage” dotted in 200 christmas tree lights about his cab…
Carryfast:
Winseer:
I reckon we’ll end up changing our government before we’ll get Brexit even started properly though.The PM, Home Secretary, and Chancellor are all Remainers:-
We’ll probably get a new government but it will be a LibDemLab coalition not a UKIP one.Which going by the Richmond Park by election zb up is what the Cons actually want.
Which believe it or not actually ended up in its pro EU electorate openly now supporting the idea of Heathrow expansion in the local media in order to de rail Brexit.
No. Actually this might be quite a shrewd move by Theresa May in “standing aside” in Richmond. Here’s why:-
LibDems win a seat from the base of “Perceived outsider”. (NOT “No Hoper” though)
Tim not-nice but Farron gloats over the result, and misinterprets a measly 1900 majority as “Remain are going to take over the whole country”.
No. What’s happened here is that the ordinary voters whom have changed actually less than pundits think over the years - have booted their sitting MP as an individual that “dived the wrong way” when they voted Remain 69% and their MP with what he thought was a “safe” 23k majority - went for Brexit as an indivudual. You can’t get a ■■■ paper between them on “Heathrow Expansion”, so it’s gotta be about Brexit alright!
Thing is, if that trend is repeated in a general election, far from the Libdems winning Coalition in 2020 as Far-out-on thinks, I can see that 9 seat drop to 0 seats rather quickly on election night!
The Libdems, have 3 years to ■■■■ things up (by doing nothing at all actually!) in Richmond, thus disenchanting voters to carry on maintaining this woman’s small majority at the next election.
Meanwhile, the other seats of this nation up for grabs will be emboldened to vote against an incumbent with a stonking majority IF that incumbent “went Remain with the local population went for Brexit” - especially if by a decently big margin…
I estimate that’s over 100 seats changing hands then - previously SAFE seats. A dream result would be they ALL change hands, but that’s a bit far fetched I admit.
So… Those changing hands… Libdems wiped out to Zero,
Labour have slightly more Brexiteers keep their seats than Remainers. Result: Labour lose Net seats, maybe 30-40 range.
Tory have LOADS of Brexiteer-voting regions in Remainer MP incumbent seats: Net result: Tories lose net seats, maybe 50-60 range.
It’s unthinkable right now that Tory voting Brexiteers will countenance voting Remain-Labour in the south of England at least. Those Tory Brexiteers then, including in my own ward - will just switch straight to UKIP. 
Now move up north, and we have most Labour MPs for Remain, with a lot of Labour wards for Brexit. They won’t be voting Conservative!! They, too then, will switch straight to UKIP.
“Spoiling Ballot Papers” or “Voting Monster Raving Loony” doesn’t come into it. 
The Richmond result is a timely wake-up call to Brexiteers up and down the country: YES you CAN boot a “safe seat” incumbent who’s against their own constituents.
YES you WILL NEED to DO this - or the emboldened Libdems will start chipping away at Brexiteer “waverers” in short order, leading right up into the next election. 
Get out and vote! 
Boot your MP who doesn’t agree with the way YOUR ward voted in the referendum!
The only downside of Brexit so far has been the weaker pound for holiday purposes. Exports are booming, now that GB Ltd has become more competetive. 
Don’t believe all that trash about GB Energy going bust because of Brexit - They just played the punters and energy futures market wrong - and lost big time.
I nearly switched to them a year ago, but got cold feet after they tried to take money out of my bank account the day after I gave them my details, but before they had actually switched me over to them for supply! Bloody cheek! Cashflow poor eh? - NO custom for YOU then sonny! I charged it back, and if a few million others did as well - that, alone would be enough to floor them - but then they bought energy forward on the futures markets as well, just before the price collapsed after the Brexit vote… THAT is the extent of “It’s Brexit’s Fault”, like saying “I lost all my money because of Brexit” when you bet your bloody house on Remain at crappy odds to boot! DOH!
Carryfast:
Winseer:
I reckon we’ll end up changing our government before we’ll get Brexit even started properly though.The PM, Home Secretary, and Chancellor are all Remainers:-
We’ll probably get a new government but it will be a LibDemLab coalition not a UKIP one.Which going by the Richmond Park by election zb up is what the Cons actually want.
Which believe it or not actually ended up in its pro EU electorate openly now supporting the idea of Heathrow expansion in the local media in order to de rail Brexit.
I did love the expression on the winning Libdems candidates face when she was asked if the bye-election could be re-run on the grounds that people who voted for her were possibly sub educated and misinformed and may well of changed their minds since the result.
The-Snowman:
Only on trucknet could a road rage incident turn into a brexit discussion
I’m bemused by the confusion of some trucknet members in whether to discriminate on the grounds of him being Asian or that he could be from the travelling community.
Bluey Circles:
I’m bemused by the confusion of some trucknet members in whether to discriminate on the grounds of him being Asian or that he could be from the travelling community.
A dozen travellers would hide the driver…
…A dozen Asians would claim whiplash.
Winseer:
Carryfast:
We’ll probably get a new government but it will be a LibDemLab coalition not a UKIP one.Which going by the Richmond Park by election zb up is what the Cons actually want.Which believe it or not actually ended up in its pro EU electorate openly now supporting the idea of Heathrow expansion in the local media in order to de rail Brexit.
No. Actually this might be quite a shrewd move by Theresa May in “standing aside” in Richmond. Here’s why:-
LibDems win a seat from the base of “Perceived outsider”. (NOT “No Hoper” though)
Tim not-nice but Farron gloats over the result, and misinterprets a measly 1900 majority as “Remain are going to take over the whole country”.
The way I see it is May delays Brexit while the Europhile LibLabCon alliance get their act together in neutering the Con ‘Eurosceptics’.Zac Goldsmith being the first casualty in that.Probably at least our MP being next among others at some point if not the next election.In this case it was the swing and the collapse in the Conservative vote in an obviously deliberate Conservative remain vote alliance with the LibDems which was the point not the LibDem majority.Which if reflected across the Conservative vote will put the LibDems and Labour into power.On that note don’t underestimate the Conservative Europhile vote or over estimate the Labour UKIP vote on a parliamentary boundary basis as opposed to a national referendum one.The fact is Brexit was probably doomed from the start as soon as the referendum result was counted and Cameron put the already decided May plan B into action.Which explains why she’s happy to go along with the remainer court case sham when she’s actually got a parliamentary majority to over rule the opposition now in compliance with the court ruling if she had any intention of leaving.
The fact is the Europhile Cons outweigh Eurosceptics and would rather go into opposition if that’s what it takes to remain in the EU and there’s a lot more Europhile Cons than Eurosceptics.Which is exactly what happened in Richmond/Kingston.
Bluey Circles:
I’m bemused by the confusion of some trucknet members in whether to discriminate on the grounds of him being Asian or that he could be from the travelling community.
No you’ve missed the point we know what he is he’s from the Asian part of Southern Ireland the question is what do the Polish think about it all.Bearing in mind we’re just neutral outsiders who just happen to live here.
Maybe the spade man overdosed on Red Bull or a triple espresso and had a caffeinated fit, happens to us all .
Where is Ronnie Pickering, he would have sorted all this out ?