I predict 120 pages like the Van der Bosch thread.
Moose:
Think the o/p is now after a job as a traffic warden, should fit right in!
Definitely a role for him in H&S at Hansons.
■■■■■■_sarah:
I’ve got a degree in psychology. I might go back to university to do a PhD - maybe along the lines of “HGV drivers’ rationality towards legislation, health and safety, and working practices”…0I too study psychology and I have also run a business with 120+ staff (Not transport)) Are you aware of the cognitive pressures that drivers have to deal with i.e. Peer pressure from a whole range of stakeholders?
She sounds like she has a god complex,your a secutairy love.your job means you make tea and keep the boss man happy.he may allow you to look at cvs but as you aint a driver how the heck do you know if a applicant is any good.
Bet she goes like ■■■■ in the bedroom.
■■■■■■_sarah, hey you ever driven a truck, my bet is NO. So how in the hell would you know how a driver thinks and feels, you don’t. All yours is theory and what psychology definition is … a study of human and animal behavior. So which of these two did you get your degree in human or animal and if it was animal when was the last time you see a cow driving a truck unlkess it was a milk tanker. That’s the trouble with all these degree ppl think they know it all but don’t walk in the drivers shoes.
Are you lot for real 
Muckaway… seriously 
Flyer747, why do people have to drive a lorry to be able to work in transport
In certain areas it will be an advantage, but there are many jobs within transport where having been a driver will be a disadvantage 
Having spent time on both sides of the desk, I can honestly say that most problems start when drivers start “thinking” as they hardly ever know the bigger picture
So to counter that argument it makes more sense for drivers to have experience in the office, rather than the other way around, maybe that way there wouldn’t be so many ■■■■ ups 
Anybody with the ability to stand up can be a lorry driver, it doesn’t take a lot of intelligence, for proof of this look around the next time you’re in the company of fellow drivers, ypu are not likely to find many members of MENSA in the group
So far we have had a moany face wee pupwho is going to change the world
Then a dizzy burd wae a degree who thinks shes the alan sugar of haulage.why does she no employ the op and this can be put to bed
CMH:
Hi TrucknetUK,I started a job with a firm in December, I had to quit on Monday because I refused to break the law and went to war with the manager of the depot I worked at. Here is the problem, I could sink this firm with the illegal activity I have seen. But I genuinely fear for my ex-colleagues and their families if VOSA or Police shut then cowboys down. This firm cannot be named right now but I will announce them at some point, it’s a nationwide firm who serves two sets of supermarkets, one of which is huge.
Sorry haven’t read the whole 7 pages but have you named them yet or do you not have the evidence to back up your allegations.
I am now out of work due to quitting, and looking for a new firm, but I’d sooner be on my arse than break the law and put my licence at risk. I look forward to your replies, I have kept name of company secret for now due to respect for this site and don’t want to get it in trouble, just like my ex-colleagues.
Pleeeeease!! vindictive child has tantrum due to loss of job, truth is bet you where sacked and your allegations have no grounds.
Course I’m going to look pretty silly if the 6 pages I didn’t bother to read contain proof and the name of the firm in question.
newmercman:
Are you lot for realMuckaway… seriously
Flyer747, why do people have to drive a lorry to be able to work in transport
In certain areas it will be an advantage, but there are many jobs within transport where having been a driver will be a disadvantage
Having spent time on both sides of the desk, I can honestly say that most problems start when drivers start “thinking” as they hardly ever know the bigger picture
So to counter that argument it makes more sense for drivers to have experience in the office, rather than the other way around, maybe that way there wouldn’t be so many [zb] ups
Anybody with the ability to stand up can be a lorry driver, it doesn’t take a lot of intelligence, for proof of this look around the next time you’re in the company of fellow drivers, ypu are not likely to find many members of MENSA in the group
It is more complex than that. To enable a person or a group to work effectively describing them as " Anybody with the ability to stand up can be a lorry driver, it doesn’t take a lot of intelligence" is only confirming what the industry is trying to change. Driving is a profession. As far as not wanting drivers to “Think” next time you ever hear a person in authority say “What was he/she thinking?” or “Why did he/she not think” I am sure you can give them the wisdom you hold so dearly.
If you have a wish to understand how to enable better practises try Johari Window businessballs.com/johariwindowmodel.htm
Going back to phyco_sarah’s methodology, that’s if I understand it correctly, my cv would be in file 13
I will get back to eating my Banana
newmercman, my point was that one might have a degree but that does not make them know it from drivers perspective. Also first words on said post
■■■■■■_sarah:
I’ve got a degree in psychology. I might go back to university to do a PhD - maybe along the lines of “HGV drivers’ rationality towards legislation, health and safety, and working practices”… and it did come across as miss high and mighty. I dare say that there maybe truckers on here who may have a degree too. Agreed newmercman one doesn,t have to drive a lorry in transport to work in transport imo those that know how to drive a truck sometimes understand drivers probs better than colledge grads do . By the same token you have good drivers and lets say the not so good drivers.
It is of course more than possible that ■■■■■■_Sarah not only has a psychology degree, but also drives a truck for a living. Her post didn’t come across as high and mighty to me, I saw it more as a comment on the attitudes of some of the posters in this thread.
Fly747.The cow driving the milktanker is funny.
But how would it turn the tank taps on with hooves.
miketaurus:
newmercman:
Are you lot for realMuckaway… seriously
Flyer747, why do people have to drive a lorry to be able to work in transport
In certain areas it will be an advantage, but there are many jobs within transport where having been a driver will be a disadvantage
Having spent time on both sides of the desk, I can honestly say that most problems start when drivers start “thinking” as they hardly ever know the bigger picture
So to counter that argument it makes more sense for drivers to have experience in the office, rather than the other way around, maybe that way there wouldn’t be so many [zb] ups
Anybody with the ability to stand up can be a lorry driver, it doesn’t take a lot of intelligence, for proof of this look around the next time you’re in the company of fellow drivers, ypu are not likely to find many members of MENSA in the group
It is more complex than that. To enable a person or a group to work effectively describing them as " Anybody with the ability to stand up can be a lorry driver, it doesn’t take a lot of intelligence" is only confirming what the industry is trying to change. Driving is a profession. As far as not wanting drivers to “Think” next time you ever hear a person in authority say “What was he/she thinking?” or “Why did he/she not think” I am sure you can give them the wisdom you hold so dearly.
If you have a wish to understand how to enable better practises try Johari Window businessballs.com/johariwindowmodel.htm
Going back to phyco_sarah’s methodology, that’s if I understand it correctly, my cv would be in file 13
I will get back to eating my Banana
My comments were tongue in cheek…to a point.
Yes lorry driving is a profession, yes it does require a qualification to enable you to do the job, but it is very much a blue collar job and it doesn’t take much skill or intelligence to gain the qualifications necessary to be a lorry driver.
There are some very good lorry drivers out there, I hope that I can include myself in that (but self praise…) but unfortunately that can only see them get a slightly better job. Now compare that to a singer, a bottom of the rung singer doing the pubs and clubs will hardly earn a living, whereas someone at the top will earn mega millions, not just for themselves, but the whole team, the same applies to sportsmen and business, the little guy in an office in a small town will not earn the same money or have the same importance as the bloke doing the same job in a big city.
However as lorry drivers there is none of that, we are in the scheme of things, just part of the machine, an essential part, no doubt about that, but still only a part.
Many times we’ve heard ‘Without lorries the country grinds to a halt’ and it is true, but if the RDC goods in staff all went on strike it would have exactly the same effect. Yet you don’t hear that lot banging on about how important they are.
So let’s not kid ourselves, we are at the bottom of the food chain and quite a lot of us are here because we have a passion for the industry, we love our jobs/lifestyle, we even spend our time off on the internet talking about it and looking at pictures of lorries.
But just because we like it and some of us take pride in what we do, it doesn’t automatically mean we will be given the credit that we ‘think’ we are due
Rhythm Thief, she don’t sound she drives a truck for a living by her own words of her job description or should we say perks.
good points and post newmercman
newmercman:
miketaurus:
newmercman:
Are you lot for realMuckaway… seriously
Flyer747, why do people have to drive a lorry to be able to work in transport
In certain areas it will be an advantage, but there are many jobs within transport where having been a driver will be a disadvantage
Having spent time on both sides of the desk, I can honestly say that most problems start when drivers start “thinking” as they hardly ever know the bigger picture
So to counter that argument it makes more sense for drivers to have experience in the office, rather than the other way around, maybe that way there wouldn’t be so many [zb] ups
Anybody with the ability to stand up can be a lorry driver, it doesn’t take a lot of intelligence, for proof of this look around the next time you’re in the company of fellow drivers, ypu are not likely to find many members of MENSA in the group
It is more complex than that. To enable a person or a group to work effectively describing them as " Anybody with the ability to stand up can be a lorry driver, it doesn’t take a lot of intelligence" is only confirming what the industry is trying to change. Driving is a profession. As far as not wanting drivers to “Think” next time you ever hear a person in authority say “What was he/she thinking?” or “Why did he/she not think” I am sure you can give them the wisdom you hold so dearly.
If you have a wish to understand how to enable better practises try Johari Window businessballs.com/johariwindowmodel.htm
Going back to phyco_sarah’s methodology, that’s if I understand it correctly, my cv would be in file 13
I will get back to eating my Banana
My comments were tongue in cheek…to a point.
Yes lorry driving is a profession, yes it does require a qualification to enable you to do the job, but it is very much a blue collar job and it doesn’t take much skill or intelligence to gain the qualifications necessary to be a lorry driver.
There are some very good lorry drivers out there, I hope that I can include myself in that (but self praise…) but unfortunately that can only see them get a slightly better job. Now compare that to a singer, a bottom of the rung singer doing the pubs and clubs will hardly earn a living, whereas someone at the top will earn mega millions, not just for themselves, but the whole team, the same applies to sportsmen and business, the little guy in an office in a small town will not earn the same money or have the same importance as the bloke doing the same job in a big city.
However as lorry drivers there is none of that, we are in the scheme of things, just part of the machine, an essential part, no doubt about that, but still only a part.
Many times we’ve heard ‘Without lorries the country grinds to a halt’ and it is true, but if the RDC goods in staff all went on strike it would have exactly the same effect. Yet you don’t hear that lot banging on about how important they are.
So let’s not kid ourselves, we are at the bottom of the food chain and quite a lot of us are here because we have a passion for the industry, we love our jobs/lifestyle, we even spend our time off on the internet talking about it and looking at pictures of lorries.
But just because we like it and some of us take pride in what we do, it doesn’t automatically mean we will be given the credit that we ‘think’ we are due
Pretty accurate summation by newmercman as usual…
Hi-ho, Monday tomorrow…
flyer747:
Rhythm Thief, she don’t sound she drives a truck for a living by her own words of her job description or should we say perks.
Perhaps she does, perhaps she doesn’t … all I was trying to say was that it’s entirely possible to have a degree and an HGV licence. I have an M.Sc. myself, if it comes to it, and I drive a truck every single night.
RT maybe, maybe not. like I said there,s ppl on here who are smarter than the average bear so to speak and you being one of them, congrats on getting a Masters I do believe.
Oh, it doesn’t mean I’m smarter than anyone else! Just that I happen to have the sort of mind that can “do” exams, that’s all. I know a good few highly intelligent people who have no common sense whatever … 
Sometimes all that is required to pass an exam is a good memory, as flyer747’s comment about common sense proves, most real geniuses have very little academic qualifications.
That’s not making light of anybody’s exam results, a lot of hard work is necessary to get a degree of whatever and a fair bit of intelligence is required.