Javiatrix:
M25 a couple of Friday’s ago, about 5 pm, going past Heathrow. Need I say more…
I was in lane 1, passing a slip road joining the main carriageway. I let two or three cars in and by that point we were at the end of the slip road and the start of the chevrons, so I decided that was enough. One prick decided he’d reserved the space in front of me and was adamant he was going to get into it. There was no gap left, but I could see him hovering around my nearside on the chevrons. I carried on as everyone moved away, we were only moving around 3-4 mph, and presumed he’d have dropped back, as there was literally no more space.
I kid you not, the next thing I knew of was the squeaky crunch of plastic on plastic. This pleb actually decided to continue drifting into me as opposed to stopping and waiting for a gap! If that doesn’t illustrate the kinds of people we share the road with, I don’t know what does!
Wait for it, you’ll have em telling you how “unprofessional” you were for not making allowances for all the muppet car drivers!
You really should have shown more professionalism by letting them all in.
You called…
See my earlier post, this is basic stuff. No doubt your muppetry may make you a better driver. I even think i saw this as you stood on the hard shoulder exchanging details.
In future create space and you will find how easier life becomes, closing the gap to block someone off is what everyone does, backing off and making allowances for others in heaby traffic avoids tea spillage and looking like a pratt on the hard shoulder.
Ive done much worse though, put a car in a ditch once and left the bugger.
Anttoeknee:
Personally I think signs should be up on the slip roads " Adjust your speed when joining carriageway. Many drivers seem to think motorway traffic has to give way to slip road vehicles.
it states it already in the Highway Code! motorists who pass a test, can suddenly drive on a motorway! killer juggernaut drivers, tut tut
I didn’t get the chance to exchange details, 'cos he promptly drove off with half his bumper hanging off
Plus, I don’t think you read my post properly… There was a good three metres in front of me; if he really wanted to squeeze in, he could have accelerated and got in, but continued converging into me at about a 5 degree relative angle, as though he didn’t even know I was there. Hence the driving off, I guess!
There’s a balance to strike between making space and making progress, and I try to keep it centred as best as I can, but at sliproads like that, if you left the usual amount of tarmac between yourself and the vehicle in front, you would quite literally remain stationary as others continue to join ahead of you like sheep.
Bluey Circles:
If folk wernt tailgating each other and instead leaving the recommended 2 second gap, at 56mph that is 45m (or 5 white lines) then there would never be any conflict joining or leaving busy roads.
What dream world do you live in. I’m a night driver. It’s rather difficult to tailgate people at night when you don’t see other vehicles for miles on end. You can be on the quietest motorway in the world and a car will come down the slip road and sit at the side of you at 50mph expecting you to move over even though the slip road is half a mile long and they’re in a high powered Merc or BMW or whatever. When they realise you’re not going to move they’ll slam the brakes and flash/blast their horn at you like it’s your fault. The highway code says different and any professional driver should know this.
I will only come off the limiter in certain situations. Mainly, if a queue of cars are trying to join and the ■■■■■■■ at the front is doing 40 I will back off because it’s not fair on those behind trying to join. If a mongtard tries to join on their own at 50mph I will happily run them into the hard shoulder. I call it free education.
Bluey Circles:
If folk wernt tailgating each other and instead leaving the recommended 2 second gap, at 56mph that is 45m (or 5 white lines) then there would never be any conflict joining or leaving busy roads.
What dream world do you live in. I’m a night driver. It’s rather difficult to tailgate people at night when you don’t see other vehicles for miles on end. You can be on the quietest motorway in the world and a car will come down the slip road and sit at the side of you at 50mph expecting you to move over even though the slip road is half a mile long and they’re in a high powered Merc or BMW or whatever. When they realise you’re not going to move they’ll slam the brakes and flash/blast their horn at you like it’s your fault. The highway code says different and any professional driver should know this.
Ah but you forget, this the truck net judge & jury not the highway code.
Funny though that I got flamed for saying similar above.
Apparently ‘we’ are supposed to back off, move over, blah blah blah.
Must be a nice place in the perfect world some seem to live in.
Gembo:
Ah but you forget, this the truck net judge & jury not the highway code.
Funny though that I got flamed for saying similar above.
Apparently ‘we’ are supposed to back off, move over, blah blah blah.
Must be a nice place in the perfect world some seem to live in.
Hey Gembo … I have just expanded my repertoire into forensic evaluation of traffic videos … your going to love my soon to be published “tailgating brake test” vid analysis … LOL
seriously though, it’s good to look at stuff from different angles and explore different points of view, I undoubtedly do or have done some of the stuff I may appear to argue against.
I’ve not seen anyone else say it so I will, that lorry driver is a fupping idiot. How the hell did he manage to create such a disaster out of an easily avoided situation?
Did he have his feet up upon the dashboard there?
I couldn’t work out why the whole thing was done apparently on the limiter with no even “coming off the accelerator pedal” evident…?
Gembo:
Funnily enough, I thought that hitting her up the arse would have been far more preferable!
Heat of the moment and everything else though and it turns out differently.
Speaking from experience my automatic reaction was to turn the wheel a tad.- vid110.photobucket.com/albums/n9 … bkh0e6.mp4
I’m thinking that driver had been expecting a slip road, they were very lucky. It’s a bit of an odd junction?
Gembo:
Funnily enough, I thought that hitting her up the arse would have been far more preferable!
Heat of the moment and everything else though and it turns out differently.
Speaking from experience my automatic reaction was to turn the wheel a tad.- vid110.photobucket.com/albums/n9 … bkh0e6.mp4
I’m thinking that driver had been expecting a slip road, they were very lucky. It’s a bit of an odd junction?
That’s one of 2 very similar on that stretch and I tend to watch them like a hawk and plan any escape before I get to them for that very reason, especially after that incident. If a truck had been along side me though, he’d have been stuffed. As it was when I looked in my NS mirror, his bumper corner was just a few inches from my 2 rear axles!
He could have been unfamiliar with the area, possibly.
Or he may just have been an arrogant dangerous prick.
We’ll probably never know. He did certainly pass me very slowly and sheepishly a minute later, no looks or anything else exchanged.
Just to add another motorway annoyance i come across all the time without starting a new thread. When I am in lane 1 & need to overtake traffic in lane 1 i check my mirrors & see a car coming up in lane 2 & see that lane 3 is free so I indicate very early so the car in lane 2 has plenty of time to move over into lane 3 or increase speed to let me overtake but a lot of times the car will either not move over or increase speed & more often than not I have to slow down & lose momentum & have to come down the gearbox & have to abort the overtaking. When I am driving in my car on the motorways I am constantly watching the road ahead for situations like the above & move over in plenty of time or speed up as in a car it is no problem at all.
Alf you seem to forget most car drivers are not aware about your overtaking problems.
You might also find the ones that will not move over are the same ones blocked by a truck when trying to join from a slip road.
You know the sort that will not move no matter what!
Bluey Circles:
If folk wernt tailgating each other and instead leaving the recommended 2 second gap, at 56mph that is 45m (or 5 white lines) then there would never be any conflict joining or leaving busy roads.
What dream world do you live in. I’m a night driver. It’s rather difficult to tailgate people at night when you don’t see other vehicles for miles on end. You can be on the quietest motorway in the world and a car will come down the slip road and sit at the side of you at 50mph expecting you to move over even though the slip road is half a mile long and they’re in a high powered Merc or BMW or whatever. When they realise you’re not going to move they’ll slam the brakes and flash/blast their horn at you like it’s your fault. The highway code says different and any professional driver should know this.
I will only come off the limiter in certain situations. Mainly, if a queue of cars are trying to join and the ■■■■■■■ at the front is doing 40 I will back off because it’s not fair on those behind trying to join. If a mongtard tries to join on their own at 50mph I will happily run them into the hard shoulder. I call it free education.
I love this example … deserted motorway in the middle of the night, no other vehicles seen for many miles, truck and a car battling it out on the hard shoulder cause neither would give an inch … its a mad mad world out there.
I’ve not seen anyone else say it so I will, that lorry driver is a fupping idiot. How the hell did he manage to create such a disaster out of an easily avoided situation?
Personally I think the lorry driver should also have been done, even with minimal attention to that on-slip he should have seen what was going to happen with plenty enough time to react and slow down, the fact that he didn’t even react in the slightest till a nanosecond before suggests to me that whatever he was doing it certainly wasn’t driving the truck!
My thoughts for many years on motorway driving are that every learner driver should have some form of tuition on motorway driving as it is a totally different scenario to driving on normal roads & then maybe we would not have a lot of the problems that are listed in this topic. The top & bottom of it is that drivers who have recently passed their driving test can drive on a motorway where it is a scary nerve racking experience to be along side a 44 ton lorry & not really know what to do.
I have given up worrying about the idiots who cant use a slip road. I’ll move to the next lane if there is room and I will even ease off if I cant move over but that’s it. If they cant accelerate to get in front of me they can wait until I’m passed. It happened a couple of times in the past where I have slowed right down to let them in and they still don’t pull out. Its bl**dy dangerous and I aint risking it again, having something hit me up the chuff.
The problem here is that nowadays the highway code actually tells people " move over to allow cars to join if it is safe to do so".
My son recently practiced for his theory test and based upon my teachings of “its up to the car joining the motorway to give way” he opted for that answer on one of the online tests. HE GOT IT WRONG!
I’m sure he showed me the latest version of the highway code in which it did indeed tell people to move over if safe to do so. So there we have it, every new driver thinks the cars on the carriageway SHOULD be moving over to allow them to join. Somebody want slapping for allowing this text to be added to the highway code.
Truckbling:
The problem here is that nowadays the highway code actually tells people " move over to allow cars to join if it is safe to do so".
My son recently practiced for his theory test and based upon my teachings of “its up to the car joining the motorway to give way” he opted for that answer on one of the online tests. HE GOT IT WRONG!
I’m sure he showed me the latest version of the highway code in which it did indeed tell people to move over if safe to do so. So there we have it, every new driver thinks the cars on the carriageway SHOULD be moving over to allow them to join. Somebody want slapping for allowing this text to be added to the highway code.
No it doesn’t. In fact it specifically says give way to traffic already on the motorway.
motorists who pass a test, can suddenly drive on a motorway! 
