Davey Driver:
pratts in Wanlon Trucks carrying new jeeps and decide their truck has shrunk to less than 6ft 6" in the road works south of Wetherby forcing other trucks into the concrete drains on the side of the hard shoulder
A gentle drift to the right narrowing that lane too would put a stop to that. You wouldn’t get all the hard looks from the tailback of cardrivers either because they would only see him causing a holdup. 
Salut, David.
i don’t really see a problem with this poll, this is the uk professional drivers forum (interactive) on trucknetuk so if we are all professionals then none of us are driving whilst falling asleep, we all know the dangers of this, nothing is more important than a life, especially our own so we all stop when we are tired and have a kip.
perhaps GRACE PRODUCTIONS should take a trip over to a tesco rdc and ask why they aren’t letting drivers have a sleep in their truck whilst they are stationary on one of the many tesco loading bays?
perhaps GRACE PRODUCTIONS should pop into an msa and ask why they charge truck drivers for overnight parking, provide zero security, often reheated food and have now started to wheel clamp those trucks that haven’t paid to park even when the driver has tried to pay but is unable to find someone to take the money and issue a parking paid permit when all the driver really wants to do is lay his head down on a pillow and slip into the land of nod for several hours.
perhaps GRACE PRODUCTIONS should question the government on why they introduced speed limiters on trucks as a road safety measure but failed to record any accident figures relating to the effects of the speed limiters and so cannot determine whether the fitment of speed limiters to trucks has increased truck related accidents or not.
my own theory is that speed limiters have increased the amount of accidents involving trucks running into the back of other vehicles as drivers spend so long looking into the rear view mirror for an opportunity to eother get out or pull back in after completing an overtaking manouvre.
perhaps GRACE PRODUCTIONS should ask why the drivers on britains worst drivers program were allowed to keep their driving licences, they are obviously not good enough to be allowed on the roads of the uk and should have had their licences withdrawn, those people were and probably still are road menaces, accidents waiting to happen.
Good points Johnny.
So Come on Grace Productions, there have been more than a few good points raised in this thread that urgently need coverage and debate in public, and a good few of the points we know full well contribute to tiredness, I was taught prevention is better than cure, and it is, so what about it?
I will not complete this poll. I will not co-operate with a company out to sell another SHOCK HORROR truckers story. Our image is bad enough and this will not help improve it. They’re out to make a pound note off our backs and they will TELL WHAT SELLS they’re not ■■■■■■■ social workers interested in our welfare so don’t let them kid you
Are Grace productions going to make any more comments ?.
jammymutt:
Are Grace productions going to make any more comments ?.
I would probably hazard a guess that that is unlikely considering the amount of negative posts on this thread to their cause.
It is unfortunate, but that’s probably how it will be.
No doubt TPTB could tell us if they have logged back in since the thread started… But I expect that they were hoping that the original post would just “drop” all the work straight onto the laps rather than going out and doing the hard research work etc.
Then again, they’d probably find that they’re on the wrong track anyway… 
Grace Productions:
We are making a BBC1 Real Story documentary
Hmm. Would these be the same “Real Story” documentaries that anyone with half a clue about the subject or an ounce of common sense can see is no more than alot of uninformed sensationalist rubbish?
If Grace Productions are responsible for a considerable amount of the “Real Story” series, the entire staff should be fired. Never in my entire life have I seen such codswallop peddled as fact. How the hell that presenter keeps a straight face with some of the stuff she has to “report”, I don’t know.
Grace Productions:
We are making a BBC1 Real Story documentary looking at sleepiness and sleep apnoea amongst Britain’s lorry drivers. We know there are many lorry drivers out there who may have this problem, but DON’T want to go to their doctor or their employer, because they are afraid of losing their jobs.[/i]
Well you woke this lot up if they where sleepy !!
wessexmediagroup.co.uk/member_page.php?id=75
Not really much about them on the web, but chances are they’re just another company trying to get business out of the TV channels as the money is there.
So they like to try and hit out at “soft targets”. Hmm. That’d be us then!!! 
Wheel Nut:
Oddsod, the poll has been done, the answer is that no-one trusts the BBC or any other TV programmeTV is just utter sensationalism and reality TV. Im with James Whale and refuse to buy a licence. If Mrs Whale wants to waste her money that is fine.
How about reality TV and the new consumer programmes?
Does Rogue Traders really serve a need? If someone is stupid enough to buy a service from a rogue, why do they need help?
Can anyone tell me why Matt Allright needs to wear ferkin knee sliders as a pillion on a Blackbird?
do i trust the bbc ? about as much as everybody else on here,but i do trust myself in telling the truth,and yes i do have sleep apnea,over night when i am asleep my heart stops 3/4 times only for one or two seconds,i constantly feel tired at the wheel to the point of nodding off,my eyes drop for a split second,long enough to travel 100 yards.Its not about trusting the bbc to tell the truth,its all about being honest with yourselfs…how many of you pull over to have a nap during the day? and do you feel refreshed after?
I gave up my licence earlier this year because of sleep apnea,i didnt wont to run into the back of another vehicle or drift into the crash barrier,or take some innocent person with me,sleep apnea is a killer believe me
jimbo
Employer’s can be killer’s also …
Started work at 2000hrs , completed the first sector of my run and once i had had break i was ready to pick up the second sector of my run at 0200hrs .
The loading was late , very late . I left the depot i was collecting the load from at 0430 hrs argueing as to why i was running it back to the yard ( 5 minutes away ) … Maybe it was the fact i had already done nearly 9 hour’s and was being expected to do another 5 hours , and on salary , who are you kidding …
Yes Paul, som bosses have no idea. Also, you are the driver, you are the one on the road, not them. I once offered one of my former bosses to come out here and do the job. He pointed out he was a 7.5 driver, to which my point was that he obviously hadn’t driven for a while, ie the last 20 years… Turns out he says this to all the drivers, but the bloke was barely 20 and had ONLY ever worked in the office 
Will BBC1 bring Life a driver falling asleep?
I think you all have gone far of the topic,so it’s pointless carrying on with it,I will say one thing more on this perhaps its nothing to do with sleep apnea,a few years ago i had just come of the train at folkestone heading up the M20 nearing ashford a truck volvo fh 12 three hundred yards in front of me litrely went over the crash barrier crossed the south bound and threw the fence,did he do it on purpose?or was he suffering from sleep apnea,
There has already been one post on here about a lads dad dieing of sleep apnea…Sleep apnea is bought on by lack of excercise, over wieght, not overwork,with sleep apnea you do not get a full nights sleep,you dont now this but you are constanly waking up and going back to sleep,before you have a go at me,please do a little bit of researching,you dont have to do the poll,by refusing and criticising the company for trying to get results you could be falling into there hands? it is a known fact that drivers get sleep apnea (well the fat muckers like me) your doctor should check you for this at your medical but with most of you under 45 you should be ok,but if you are on blood pressure pills and are over wieght your doctor will check you for it at 45.
NO JOKE SLEEP APNEA IS A KILLER
Ok so how do you know if you fell asleep if you dont know you fell asleep because you dont know you have sleep apnea but you might have fell asleep because you do have sleep apnea but didnt know you had itand still fell asleep■■?.
No this wasnt posted by Fred but by me.
jammymutt:
No this wasnt posted by Fred but by me.
You’re right, because I can understand Fred’s posts .
Salut, David.
Sleep apnoea…is not only caused by lack of exercise and being overweight…there are other symptoms as well…and i do know cos i`m having an operation for it on the 28th of this month…and its to do with the throat…A lot of drivers get tired by the type of work they do…the amount of hours they work…and not a long enough rest period…the know it alls at the eurohub in brussels…didnt think to give a driver a minimum 11 hours off…but listened instead to the employers point of view…and decided that drivers can reduce their daily rest to 9 hours 3 times a week…what good is that…then you have the drivers who park in laybys through no fault of their own…and gets very little rest because of the wind and sway from passing vehicles…it may be ok for a night or so…but towards the end of the week…that driver is going to be shagged… then you have the driver (like myself) who parks up during the day which is quite noisy…and then when its time for bed…has gotta drive…so all this adds to a very tired driver…because the body is built for a days work and a nights rest…but that is my choice to work those kind of hours…
oddsodz:
There has already been one post on here about a lads dad dieing of sleep apnea…Sleep apnea is bought on by lack of excercise, over wieght, not overwork,with sleep apnea you do not get a full nights sleep,you dont now this but you are constanly waking up and going back to sleep,before you have a go at me,please do a little bit of researching,you dont have to do the poll,by refusing and criticising the company for trying to get results you could be falling into there hands? it is a known fact that drivers get sleep apnea (well the fat muckers like me) your doctor should check you for this at your medical but with most of you under 45 you should be ok,but if you are on blood pressure pills and are over wieght your doctor will check you for it at 45.NO JOKE SLEEP APNEA IS A KILLER
Oddz, yes it is a killer M8, and a serious problem, and you are right to point it out and explain the particulars. But it is not the only reason drivers fall asleep at the wheel. But I think you know this well enough though, you aught to, youve been in the game long enough.
truckyboy:
Sleep apnoea…is not only caused by lack of exercise and being overweight…there are other symptoms as well…and i do know cos i`m having an operation for it on the 28th of this month…and its to do with the throat…A lot of drivers get tired by the type of work they do…the amount of hours they work…and not a long enough rest period…the know it alls at the eurohub in brussels…didnt think to give a driver a minimum 11 hours off…but listened instead to the employers point of view…and decided that drivers can reduce their daily rest to 9 hours 3 times a week…what good is that…then you have the drivers who park in laybys through no fault of their own…and gets very little rest because of the wind and sway from passing vehicles…it may be ok for a night or so…but towards the end of the week…that driver is going to be [zb]… then you have the driver (like myself) who parks up during the day which is quite noisy…and then when its time for bed…has gotta drive…so all this adds to a very tired driver…because the body is built for a days work and a nights rest…but that is my choice to work those kind of hours…
Well said that man!
Personally I can’t see the relevance or the need for this poll.
Truck drivers have a relatively easy and stress free life and falling asleep at the wheel is very unlikely considering the short hours that they work.
Now if you really want a cause to take up, you would be hard pressed to find a less worthy cause than workers at Burger King.
We have an extremely stressful and dangerous job, constantly having to listen to moans from truckers especially over our opening times.
Can you imagine the problems it causes when we fall asleep at the till?
One person last week ended up having to pay for a go large when they only wanted small. One time I even forgot to ask if they, “wanted fries with that”
Only yesterday our burger fryer fell asleep whilst frying a bacon double cheese, luckily the customer never noticed the eyebrows stuck to the cheese.
So if you would like to discuss sleep problems further and really campaign for a worthy cause, please call me at Corley Motorway Service Area, Burger King. Just ask for Nathan.
Oh and please any of you passing this way please remember to ask for your free fries.