I understand that it seems i’m taking the ■■■■ and i’ve bee a bit of a push over and I admit could have and should have stuck it out instead of letting something not so drastic stop me from working. As for not being able to handle a job while being at college, I’d give anyone a couple months t keep up with the work I was set with the subjects i was doing and then hold down a job afterwards, it seems like I’m dramatising the whole I couldn’t get a job while in college but the fact is I couldn’t. Yes I chose the subjects and I enjoyed them to an extent but i just wasnt enjoying it as much as I thought I would do. I kept up with the work but was struggling in doing so, I’ve no shame in admitting it. Getting a part time job while being at college would have been way too much for me personally to someone else they could probably cope but everybody is different. Don’t get me wrong I’m looking forward to going back to work and the day I’m having off is for a job where I’m being trained properly to do something that will leave me in a better position then I am in now and closer to where I want to be. Yes it was a risk me leaving college like it’s a risk me going for an interview that could put me in a better place than I am in now. But I’d rather take the risk and fail than leave it and wonder ‘what if’
It’s not as if im saying I hate the job, and it’s not as if I’m saying I’m going to pack it all in because it’s a load of whatever and I’m not interested. The job is ok, not the best but it’s good for what it is and other aspects of the job that I wouldn’t have gotten in college. And I won’t be packing the job in any time soon, but while there are better opportunities it’s about looking for them and striking while the iron is hot.
JTF…You are owed money in return for work. Contracts matter not, you supplied your work under the understanding that you would get paid for it, fair exchange is no robbery. On this occasion you have been robbed of 6 hours of your life, the payment may well be low, but nonetheless it is a payment that you are entitled to.
Principle stands out here and how you conduct yourself in the future, allow yourself to be ‘turned over’ now and it will happen again. Start as you mean to go on
I myself, have an issue with non payment right now…I have never had a problem getting the money in the past…Ever
The guys who owe me the money dont know me, I am new to the area.....But I have a feeling they will become very aware of who I am, as soon as I show them photos of things they think I dont know about and possibly of things that they love I can back up my thinly veiled threats though…I have had to in the past…All part of lifes rich learning curve I enjoy it to be honest…Being a ■■■■■ helps though
jonnytruckfest:
There’s no point going anywhere if you’re going to give up at the first hurdle.
True, but on the flip side, you’re young free and single so if it’s not working, [zb] it off. I know I’ve said it before but it sounds like a [zb] hole where you’re working.
Do what OTSS said and go back to college for a bit, you really don’t seem ready for work.
That’s true and the place I’m working is okay, just the people who employ me to do the job could handle things better in my opinion. Like I could have handled a few things better but we learn from our mistakes. I wouldn’t have said leaving college to start work was a mistake, just the job I am doing was a mistake to leave college for. But I’m going to ride it out as long as I can until something better comes along. It’s too late to get back to college, but as I have said I’ve got an interview on Wednesday for another job hopefully I will get it if not I’m still in a job earning ‘enough’ money. It isn’t the best money but it’s better then what I was on at college. And with the hours I was working at college, there was no time to get a part time job even for the weekends
I really don’t understand how I am not seeming like I am ready to work? I am still getting used to the working life coming from a long stint in the education part of things. I understand I come off a bit childish at times something I doubt will never get better with age But on the most side I can hack the work side of things just circumstances could have been better as such
Cheers
Jonny
Please dont give that one I did hours at college/6th form and did hours in work aswell as other work. Shop work is good for short shifts. My GF goes to uni, volunteers in a school and gets in quite a few hours in work.
I also know of a few people who have done full time work and pub work in the evenings to get in more money.
Have a read through your post Jonny, you mention management have handled things wrong, how many managers have you had to put up with? How much experience do you have compared to them?
Just things to think about
You’ve no idea the work load I had in college, I’m not saying I had the biggest work load going but to me it was more than enough to keep me going and a part time job would have been too much for me. Someone else could probably manage it, But I couldn’t again. No shame in admitting that, some people can hack that some people can’t I’m of the percentage who can’t.
The people who employ me who ask me to go in on a monday morning to be told to go home because there is no work to be called up in the afternoon to be told to come in. Work for 3 hours be paid for 6 as a means to compensate me. And be told I wont be working on the thursday because they didn’t order enough lids for the tubs nor did they have the delivery in on time the next day. I believe that’s managements job to ensure all of that is taken care of, Like I have highlighted I could have handled things better also, it isn’t just one sided. I did things wrong also voicing my opinion at the warehouse manager when I should have just got on with my job and kept my mouth shut also going home over a few stomach pains.
Maybe I’ve just gotten soft over the past year with letting things get on top of me. I’m getting back to where I need to be, I’m better off then I was at college for the time being and I feel better in myself for working rather being in college. This is the first bad experience properly I’ve had, I’ve moaned a bit about the days I was mucked about with but that’s it. Mostly it’s been positives on my end, then again I try to look on the positive side of things all the time. But I don’t see the funny side in having my wage docked for hours that I have worked because I went home 2 and a half hours before the end. And it’s not like I went straight home, I went to the doctors and got told straight up it was food poisoning along with a dicky stomach I’ve had for a while now. Fair enough dock two hours if they must but that would still leave me with more of a wage than I got this morning. The only positive I’ve got is I’ve learnt not to get off work if you’re feeling a bit funny.
jonnytruckfest:
I understand that it seems i’m taking the ■■■■ and i’ve bee a bit of a push over and I admit could have and should have stuck it out instead of letting something not so drastic stop me from working.
When I was a captain of industry, I used to put ■■■■■ in the career paths of promising young prospects. Their reaction to the ■■■■■ was what I needed to know. It was very important to discover how they handled it.
I don’t think you can handle what your ambitions seek.
Ambition is dangerous unless it can be qualified with success.
Drop the education to a lower level mate, aim to be happy & let your life finds its own level.
Don’t, even for one minute, consider a change of heart as a failure.
I could’ve been so much more than you could ever dream of, our differance is that I actually chose the way I have gone.
scottie0011:
You’ve been there 2 weeks and already had a sore back necessitating a change of job, a dose of the squirts necessitating an early finish and now you are expecting a days paid holiday…
This made me laugh out loud, ■■■■■■■ my self laughing, rolling around on the floor laughing and all that.
Jonnyboy, you sound like my lazy little brothers, never done a days work in their life. At my last job if you could still walk at the end of the shift you hadn’t been working hard enough.
Man up before the real world comes and bites you on the ■■■.
jonnytruckfest:
I understand that it seems i’m taking the ■■■■ and i’ve bee a bit of a push over and I admit could have and should have stuck it out instead of letting something not so drastic stop me from working.
When I was a captain of industry, I used to put [zb] in the career paths of promising young prospects. Their reaction to the [zb] was what I needed to know. It was very important to discover how they handled it.
I don’t think you can handle what your ambitions seek.
Ambition is dangerous unless it can be qualified with success.
Drop the education to a lower level mate, aim to be happy & let your life finds its own level.
Don’t, even for one minute, consider a change of heart as a failure.
I could’ve been so much more than you could ever dream of, our differance is that I actually chose the way I have gone.
That’s what I’ve always tried to do, but the past year being at college doing A-levels were purely to please everybody else but myself. Trying to explain to my dad about me leaving college to start work was probably one of the hardest things I’ve ever had to do, I understand peoples concerns about it being the ‘wrong’ decision, but unless you are that person and you understand the situation how are you to know whats right or wrong? You can generalize it to everybody but there is always going to be that minority that are different, maybe I am, maybe I’m not but I wasn’t going to be stuck in college asking myself that very question.
If you’re stuck somewhere you really don’t want to be and really don’t like you won’t do well regardless of how hard you try. Having my ex in college wasn’t the most enjoyable of things either, the past year and a half I went through a lot of ■■■■ because of her which led to me going a bit mad a few months back. I’d be ■■■■■■ if I was letting that happen again
My aim in life has always been to be happy, but I’ve always found myself pleasing other people. It’s alright and all making other people happy in the short term but they aren’t the ones who pay my way. It’s a nice change doing something that makes me happy, the job I’m doing may not be the best but i’m certainly a lot happier now than I was this time last month! I am looking into things that can get me trained up into something so I’m not stuck in jobs like I’m doing now but they’re okay to see the time over. Which I think is a better way of going around things. I maybe wrong but I won’t know unless I find out
Jonny! Warehouse work takes a little time to get used to! Especially if you haven’t done it before! You have said you’ve been there only 2 weeks! And looking for a job elsewhere already!
Your gonna have to learn to stick a job out mate!
If you ever get to be a wagon driver! You will have to stick it out for experience first,and later to
stay in a job while you find a better one!
As others have already said, welcome to the real world!
From what I have read from you it does seem that you are definatly not suited to the world of manual labour, biting the bullet and trying to get back into college, even if you have a bit to catch up on, would be the best option I reckon!
dessy:
Jonny! Warehouse work takes a little time to get used to! Especially if you haven’t done it before! You have said you’ve been there only 2 weeks! And looking for a job elsewhere already!
Your gonna have to learn to stick a job out mate!
If you ever get to be a wagon driver! You will have to stick it out for experience first,and later to
stay in a job while you find a better one!
I am sticking the job out, I said I was looking for other work that would benefit me more than what I am doing now. It doesn’t mean I’m going to be jacking this job in willy nilly. Like I’ve said before the manual labour stuff doesn’t even bother me, I enjoy the work for what it is. Yes my back was killing me after the second day but I still stuck it out. The third day I asked if i could go onto something else for a short while because of my back aching. I am a big lad and being bent at an angle most of the time packing the boxes with the tubs (stack of 2 boxes) and lifting them putting them onto the table. It doesn’t sound difficult but do it for a full day and you’ll know what I mean. The job in itself has helped me lose weight in a sense and is a better work out then going to the gym and I have a laugh doing it as well. I’m sticking the job out for as long as it lasts.
For the time being I start back on Tuesday, I have an interview on the Wednesday for an apprenticeship working in a logistics office (something I already have a bit of experience in) Which in my opinion is a good opportunity one I think I would be mad not to go to. You never know unless you find out! I’m not work shy, which is what ■■■■■■ me off when people think of me as. 2 weeks in yes, doesn’t mean i’ve given up. ffs I don’t give up that easy
Chas:
Unpaid wages & unlawfull deduction of wages can be differant things !
IIRC, you need to raise a formal grievance under your employers grievance proceedure. If this doesn’t get you what you think you are owed then you can either (1) sue them in the small claims court, or (2) take them to an employment tribunal.
The way I interpret your original post, you cannot fail to recover your 6hrs of pay.
Google “unlawfull deduction of wages” & there’s lots of respected websites to give information.
No win no fee lawyers love this kind of stuff.
This quote and others !! Load of ■■■■■■■■.
You sound to soft for transport to me !!
Transport is not an easy industry ! FACT.
The people that run trucks are not easy people to deal with FACT.
If you do any amount of hours work for them then you are entitled to get paid for the hours that you have worked. FACT.
So, go into the bosses office and sit there and wait until you get paid for the hours that you worked. Go in on your day off if you have to to make a point. !!
Dont come on TN and cry about it, no one on here can help you. 30 Quid is 30 Quid.
I used to sit for hours when I was due money and I used to get it eventually. It got to the point that the boss would storm out and go for a drive thinking that I would be gone when he got back. But Oh no, I was still there…
There are some blokes on here that know which boss I’m talking about. When it got really nasty after being turned round four or five times at Zeebrugge or Boulogne with more trailers, I had to resort to the hessian sack with a pickaxe handle in it. Crash that on the desk and you will soon get paid. You may not be employed there afterwards but atleast you let them know that you aint a mug… Surely though, to be in a transport office you need to understand the job from the road up !! Best place to start is in the yard, helping the drivers and the loaders etc do some shunting and generally mucking in, that way you will definately gain respect and knowledge. not sitting in some poncy office listening to people that dont have a clue !! Maybe I’m too old.
Dont forget though, you need experience and the only way to get it is to get work, but dont let them take the ■■■■ out of you. A fair days work = a fair days pay.
Good Luck!! and Happy New Year.
When do the colleges re-open ■■
GS OVERLAND.
Chas:
Unpaid wages & unlawfull deduction of wages can be differant things !
IIRC, you need to raise a formal grievance under your employers grievance proceedure. If this doesn’t get you what you think you are owed then you can either (1) sue them in the small claims court, or (2) take them to an employment tribunal.
The way I interpret your original post, you cannot fail to recover your 6hrs of pay.
Google “unlawfull deduction of wages” & there’s lots of respected websites to give information.
No win no fee lawyers love this kind of stuff.
This quote and others !! Load of ■■■■■■■■.
You sound to soft for transport to me !! That’s your opinion like many others I have proved wrong, so thanks for adding fuel to my fire
Transport is not an easy industry ! FACT. I gathered that when I was a child, I like a challenge but people will think what they want to think. This point in time I’m beyond caring
The people that run trucks are not easy people to deal with FACT. I’ve dealt with difficult people in different environments not just transport so not something that faces me
If you do any amount of hours work for them then you are entitled to get paid for the hours that you have worked. FACT. I gathered this, I was just clarifying my answer so I don’t land in any ■■■■ that I don’t really want or need to be in
So, go into the bosses office and sit there and wait until you get paid for the hours that you worked. Go in on your day off if you have to to make a point. !!
Dont come on TN and cry about it, no one on here can help you. I asked for advice, as I’ve seen similar things on the forum and needed the information to be exact, yes to many just a bunch of truck drivers but I tend to listen to truck drivers (Who talk some sense which the number of those is declining by the hour) dont ask me why I just do30 Quid is 30 Quid. It is but to me money isn’t everything, doesn’t mean I won’t be saying something about it
I used to sit for hours when I was due money and I used to get it eventually. It got to the point that the boss would storm out and go for a drive thinking that I would be gone when he got back. But Oh no, I was still there…
There are some blokes on here that know which boss I’m talking about. When it got really nasty after being turned round four or five times at Zeebrugge or Boulogne with more trailers, I had to resort to the hessian sack with a pickaxe handle in it. Crash that on the desk and you will soon get paid. You may not be employed there afterwards but atleast you let them know that you aint a mug… I tried to prove that by telling the warehouse manager where to shove his snide remarks to himself in nicer words than I’d usually say them, but like any older adult I was a stupid little ■■■■ who threw his teddies out the pram yet if I was 20 years older it probably would have been ‘good on you’ again not really caring, I stood my ground and I’ve not had bother from him sinceSurely though, to be in a transport office you need to understand the job from the road up !! Indeed that’s true, but in a sense I’m doing what would make my dad happy and getting in the office before getting behind the wheel of a truck, I suppose that’s a good way of thinking of it I supposeBest place to start is in the yard, helping the drivers and the loaders etc do some shunting and generally mucking in, that way you will definately gain respect and knowledge. Tell me a company who will hire me to do this I’ll put my name down, until then it’s the only option I have. And don’t think I’ve knocked on every door because I have and not one will bat an eye lid. But you earn respect to gain it, I’d treat a driver like I would anyone else, if i’m spoke to in a not so nice manner I would react like i would anyone else. Makes no difference to menot sitting in some poncy office listening to people that dont have a clue !! Maybe I’m too old.
Dont forget though, you need experience and the only way to get it is to get work, but dont let them take the ■■■■ out of you. A fair days work = a fair days pay. That’s what I’m doing, like you say a fair days work for a fair days pay, and being docked money that i’ve rightfully earnt I believe would ■■■■ off the calmest of people. And after years of having the ■■■■ taken out of me, my attitude is probably the one thing that stops people taking the ■■■■ out of me. I work hard, so long as they’re honest with me i’ll be honest with them. It’s as simple as that
Good Luck!! and Happy New Year. Thank you kind sir, And i hope you don’t think I’m trying to be a smart arse or trying to be a ■■■■■ as these are the types of comments I like to see in a sense because it gives me the drive to want to do better also its a good kick up the arse as well! So thank you for the kind wishes and your opinion on things and a happy new year to yourself!
When do the colleges re-open ■■ I think they open the week after I start work so I think the 9th, but I can’t be certain! All I know is I won’t be going back, but from here onwards I will be moving forwards!
GS OVERLAND.
I enjoy it to be honest…Being a ■■■■■ helps though 
I did hours at college/6th form and did hours in work aswell as other work. Shop work is good for short shifts. My GF goes to uni, volunteers in a school and gets in quite a few hours in work.
