Under Pressure?

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Obviously not an inexperienced driver. Makes you wonder why he did it. Was it the stress/ pressure on his family life. Has proved very costly indeed.

Goes to show people do strange things in unfamiliar situations.

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‘His employer gave a character reference and said he was keeping his job.’ I’m sure his boss loved him for doing all that extra.

Is the firms boss going to cop for it too?

Bit silly to pull the card out in this day and age, but I doubt there’s anyone on multi drop in urban areas that’ve never done a delivery whilst on break. Before anyone complains about “working for free” you can always get your break time in with the tacho on working time later on.

His employer should of been more understanding of his home situation. Give him.more local runs shorter hours or even some time off.

Thing is employers don’t care no more. I remeber not long ago one my parents died out the blue was totally unexpected was.given 3 days leave I had sort funeral out and everything then they also complained about me wanting day off for funeral.
I soon left said company after that.

Yes he should asked his employees for local runs or even time off ,if he was under that much pressure from his wife to get home then surely the company would understand ?

I use to work with a driver who had to get home to peel the spuds before the wife got home :open_mouth: !!! ,the firm who he worked for , took advantage of this and gave him all the long runs ! he carved the lot up! HE IS DEAD NOW ! died of a heart attack ! true .

IS IT BLOODY WORTH IT .

He’s clearly kept his job because of the shortage of drivers…or he is in a union and firing would have been unfair in some far fetched world…or he just an honest hard working man who deserves a second chance ( keep his job for him so he won’t spill the beans )…

If any one wants any worms, I have a few going spare,along with some empty tins. :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing:

I personally don’t believe a word, sounds like a load of excuses and ■■■■■■■■ to me.
There are many drivers who work like this as a matter of routine, spineless idiots who can not say no, and/or those who look upon breaks as something you ‘‘need to get in’’ and just show false breaks on their tacho.
He got caught eventually that is all, so he deserves all he gets.
His employer kept him on… as.employers just lurrrve these type of d/heads :unamused: .
If his claim was genuine he should have told his employer to give him runs for a couple of weeks that would suit his situation, if he would not play ball join an agency.

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Plenty of idiots do this all the time. He got caught and brought out the sob stories

Alternatively, for those that do have RL issues, don’t be put off by those who only see things negatively.

Talk to your TM (not supervisors or foremen, although they also should be made aware) and make at least the general issue known, these days they have a ‘duty of care’ and cannot ignore your RL issues, especially if you put them in writing (you know how your firm works as to whether its necessary or not). By doing so you are covering your arse for any refusal to do certain runs and for taking time off with little/ no notice. Unfair/ constructive dismissal will always work in your favour if you have made your issues known. We’re in the 21st century now, not the 19th!

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Alternatively, for those that do have RL issues, don’t be put off by those who only see things negatively.

Talk to your TM (not supervisors or foremen, although they also should be made aware) and make at least the general issue known, these days they have a ‘duty of care’ and cannot ignore your RL issues, especially if you put them in writing (you know how your firm works as to whether its necessary or not). By doing so you are covering your arse for any refusal to do certain runs and for taking time off with little/ no notice. Unfair/ constructive dismissal will always work in your favour if you have made your issues known. We’re in the 21st century now, not the 19th!

“Duty of care” ffs. You take a job as a driver. If there are too many drops to do in a days work, take what’s left back! It’s chumps that do all the rushing around like maniacs that are not only bloody dangerous, but also b******s the job up for everyone else. That’s called duty of care for yourself.

Well I agree with robroy it’s ■■■■■■■■.

edd1974:
His employer should of been more understanding of his home situation. Give him.more local runs shorter hours or even some time off.

Thing is employers don’t care no more. I remeber not long ago one my parents died out the blue was totally unexpected was.given 3 days leave I had sort funeral out and everything then they also complained about me wanting day off for funeral.
I soon left said company after that.

Firstly we don’t know if his employer knew or not, though he should have been aware once his card was downloaded. We don’t know if normally his hours are squeaky clean and this all happened in the space of a few weeks. I certainly don’t look at mine and keep and monitor them, generally all I do is download the card every two weeks and see if it spews out an infringement or not.

Just because you have one bad experience with an employer, doesn’t mean that all employers don’t care.

I’m not buying it either.

Sounds like a bloke I worked with once who raced around like a blue arsed fly all day, carving the job up because he ‘needed’ to be done by 3pm everyday to pick his kids up from school. He used to phone the stores (whilst driving) 5 mins before he got there so they were waiting upon his arrival, then have sweat pouring off him as he frantically offloaded the gear like some sort of lunatic. The tacho was always on break. You could have made a comedy sketch out of the way he went on, always looked totally frantic.

rob22888:
I’m not buying it either.

Sounds like a bloke I worked with once who raced around like a blue arsed fly all day, carving the job up because he ‘needed’ to be done by 3pm everyday to pick his kids up from school. He used to phone the stores (whilst driving) 5 mins before he got there so they were waiting upon his arrival, then have sweat pouring off him as he frantically offloaded the gear like some sort of lunatic. The tacho was always on break. You could have made a comedy sketch out of the way he went on, always looked totally frantic.

So he worked hard, to get home to pick his kids up, and you have a problem with that, O I see it now, he was doing the job faster and better than you and your mates,making you look like slackers.

We’ve a couple of blokes excatlly the same, crack on. Doesn’t affect me, why bother…

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rob22888:
I’m not buying it either.

Sounds like a bloke I worked with once who raced around like a blue arsed fly all day, carving the job up because he ‘needed’ to be done by 3pm everyday to pick his kids up from school. He used to phone the stores (whilst driving) 5 mins before he got there so they were waiting upon his arrival, then have sweat pouring off him as he frantically offloaded the gear like some sort of lunatic. The tacho was always on break. You could have made a comedy sketch out of the way he went on, always looked totally frantic.

So he worked hard, to get home to pick his kids up, and you have a problem with that, O I see it now, he was doing the job faster and better than you and your mates,making you look like slackers.

We’ve a couple of blokes excatlly the same, crack on. Doesn’t affect me, why bother…

Sort of agree but I’d argue it’s lack of understanding from the company.

My lot know I’ll do whatever, whenever, but they also know that it’s on the condition I can finish by 5pm on a Tuesday as it’s the one say a week where there’s nobody around to get my lad before his after school closes so they plan me accordingly. I don’t even remind them, likewise they don’t need to worry that I’ll go the extra bit for them when they need it.

Give and take and all that.

peterm:
“Duty of care” ffs.

Yes, duty of care. Employers have a duty of care to make sure that they don’t put undue pressure on employees. When it comes to lorries there’s an even higher duty of care which is a requirement of holding an O licence. Transport managers have to plan runs so they don’t put undue pressure on a driver to break the law or break the rules to complete the journey.

Can you check which calendar you use? It should say 2019 for the year, not 1819.

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We’ve a couple of blokes excatlly the same, crack on. Doesn’t affect me, why bother…

Because it will bother you at some point. It’ll bother you if DVSA do an investigation and catch your odd infringements and decide to lump you in with the other drivers. It’ll bother you when you end up sat at home with no job because the Traffic Commissioner either restricted or cancelled the operators licence of your employer. It’ll bother you if the news got out, the company got a bad enough reputation and wasn’t exactly looked upon favourably by other companies in the area and you applied for a job to find that when you put your last employer down that who you applied to looked at your application and went “oh you were one of that lot who rant bent all the time, not bloody likely”.

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O I see it now, he was doing the job faster and better than you and your mates,making you look like slackers.

Yea, you got me. :unamused:

Never said it bothered me anyway, just giving an example of the sort of bloke the driver in the article probably was. Flash Gordon, always rushing, always speeding, got caught so came up with some story as an excuse.

robroy:
There are many drivers who work like this as a matter of routine, spineless idiots who can not say no, and/or those who look upon breaks as something you ‘‘need to get in’’ and just show false breaks on their tacho.

I used to work at a place that was infested with these halfwits, but their presence was most welcome from my point of view. It was weekly guaranteed hours with overtime after, all day work that was planned to the minute using whatever system they had that can do such things.

Almost every week, the idiot element thought they were being clever by rushing round and getting back as early as possible. No walk-round check, tipping on break, all that. Then, because they had cut the job up so badly, they would find themselves owing plenty of hours on a Friday and ending up with a run that didn’t get them back until 1900hrs. Meanwhile, those few drivers who used their head, took their time all week and made sure that all breaks were taken ended up ‘owing’ only a few hours and were usually given a short run and finished for dinnertime or thereabouts on a Friday.

Week after week, this would happen almost without fail. And still, the idiots did not twig. Occasionally I would consider them stuck in a motorway queue somewhere while I was shooting the breeze in the pub.

The more knobheads in the industry the better, I say. It means that the minority of drivers who have a clue what they are doing will never be short of work.

We get an allocated time to do our job. If you go over that time you write down why. Some drivers see it as a competition, can you do a 12 hour job in 10. Anything that cuts time out is done.
I’ve never understood why, we’re hourly bloody paid.

toonsy:
I don’t even remind them, likewise they don’t need to worry that I’ll go the extra bit for them when they need it.

Give and take and all that.

Thats the way it should be.
Too many drivers see any give from them as equalling being a bend over merchant and cant find the line between doing the extra when required to get the benefit when they need it.

My lot know I’ll do whatever, whenever, but they also know that it’s on the condition I can finish by 5pm on a Tuesday as it’s the one say a week where there’s nobody around to get my lad before his after school closes so they plan me accordingly. I don’t even remind them, likewise they don’t need to worry that I’ll go the extra bit for them when they need it.

Give and take and all that.
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thats the way it should be.
this dude bent it for a cpl of days and got ott crucified for doing so plus got hammered to cover costs.
his company should have sacked him for a week so he was on the dole when getting fined,then started him again the next day when paying it up at £10 a week would have made no difference to him.