Ukraine [merged]

robroy:
I don’t particularly care what your negative pro communist opinion of NATO is tbh mate, ‘‘proof’’ or no ‘‘proof’’.
I’m just thankful that it has acted as some kind of deterrent from attempted communist ■■■■■■■■■■ in my lifetime so far,…even if the threat is more prevalent at the moment.

As for you not wanting to live in a Communust state,.despite trying to inform us of the…benefits.

You sound like those radical Muslim fundamentalist pieces of [zb],.who slag off everything about our way of life…but continue to make us endure their infestation, instead of just [zb] off to hell away from here.

Unfortunately Rob that stinking ideology won’t take no for an answer.
At this point we’ve got to be prepared to nuke Moscow so that at least we get the satisfaction that it goes before London does.
As for the substitute of the army on Russia’s border they don’t even have the satisfaction of being able unload the mag of an FN rifle into the guts of a stinking Russian Commy POS.
Let alone Bozo having the bottle to tip a Trident sub load onto Moscow in a premptive attack after giving the Russian scum the chance of cease fire and go home right now or die.

NATOs conventional forces in Europe already rendered useless by Russia by the threat of strategic nuke attack on UK.
So the government thinks conventional war and weapons are the solution.

telegraph.co.uk/business/202 … onal-arms/

They couldn’t make it up.

I see those clowns in Washington have “Green lighted” any NATO country who supplies their aircraft to Ukraine to fight Russia as all of Ukraine’s airfields are now bomb sites. Since when do these tools speak for every NATO country?
If any NATO country supplies war planes to Ukraine those airfields that they flew from would become legitimate targets, Poland has already told them to get stuffed.
Russian forces also found a US biological weapons facility on the Russian border, Like the yanks saying there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq the Russians now have an excuse to go to town on Ukraine. republicworld.com/world-new … eshow.html

lancpudn:
I see those clowns in Washington have “Green lighted” any NATO country who supplies their aircraft to Ukraine to fight Russia as all of Ukraine’s airfields are now bomb sites. Since when do these tools speak for every NATO country?
If any NATO country supplies war planes to Ukraine those airfields that they flew from would become legitimate targets, Poland has already told them to get stuffed.
Russian forces also found a US biological weapons facility on the Russian border, Like the yanks saying there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq the Russians now have an excuse to go to town on Ukraine. republicworld.com/world-new … eshow.html

Obvious place for the US to set up labs, innit?
A non NATO country, near a recently invaded area, right by a potentially hostile country.
Why would the US ever think it a good idea to have a lab there?

The link says it is a Russian claim…the same Russia that said
“Oh, no its just an exercise". "Oh, no we wont invade Ukraine", "Oh, no we wont invade Crimea”
The same Russia that is telling it`s own citizens it is liberating Ukraine, and is today surrounding cities with artillery, setting up “humanitarian escape routes” and breaking them.

Russia hasn`t needed an excuse to go in so far, so what difference does yet another lie from them make?

Franglais:

lancpudn:
I see those clowns in Washington have “Green lighted” any NATO country who supplies their aircraft to Ukraine to fight Russia as all of Ukraine’s airfields are now bomb sites. Since when do these tools speak for every NATO country?
If any NATO country supplies war planes to Ukraine those airfields that they flew from would become legitimate targets, Poland has already told them to get stuffed.
Russian forces also found a US biological weapons facility on the Russian border, Like the yanks saying there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq the Russians now have an excuse to go to town on Ukraine. republicworld.com/world-new … eshow.html

Obvious place for the US to set up labs, innit?
A non NATO country, near a recently invaded area, right by a potentially hostile country.
Why would the US ever think it a good idea to have a lab there?

The link says it is a Russian claim…the same Russia that said
“Oh, no its just an exercise". "Oh, no we wont invade Ukraine", "Oh, no we wont invade Crimea”
The same Russia that is telling it`s own citizens it is liberating Ukraine, and is today surrounding cities with artillery, setting up “humanitarian escape routes” and breaking them.

Russia hasn`t needed an excuse to go in so far, so what difference does yet another lie from them make?

It will make it as legit to the world as it did when the yanks invaded Iraq on phoney weapons of mass destruction. The only people stopping the civilian population from using that humanitarian corridor are the Ukraine militia. youtube.com/watch?v=G7qXOm5Hsag

lancpudn:
It will make it as legit to the world as it did when the yanks invaded Iraq on phoney weapons of mass destruction. The only people stopping the civilian population from using that humanitarian corridor are the Ukraine militia. youtube.com/watch?v=G7qXOm5Hsag

George Galloway?
As trustworthy as Lord Haw-Haw.

The new alleged safe routes lead to Russia and Belaruse!
Let`s walk to the safe haven of our invaders lands■■?

lancpudn:
I see those clowns in Washington have “Green lighted” any NATO country who supplies their aircraft to Ukraine to fight Russia as all of Ukraine’s airfields are now bomb sites. Since when do these tools speak for every NATO country?
If any NATO country supplies war planes to Ukraine those airfields that they flew from would become legitimate targets, Poland has already told them to get stuffed.
Russian forces also found a US biological weapons facility on the Russian border, Like the yanks saying there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq the Russians now have an excuse to go to town on Ukraine. republicworld.com/world-new … eshow.html

The way I interpreted it was that the US were sending new planes to the Polish Air force, and the Poles were sending their existing planes for the Ukranians to use.
Not sure about their military airfields or the geography of their civil airports, but I suppose there must be somewhere for them to operate from considering the size of the country.

As for Putin and his claims of finding bio weapons?..Aye right, how convenient eh? Some justification.
I would not believe him if he told me what day it was,.are you telling me that you sctually believe him with his record so far?

Franglais:

lancpudn:
It will make it as legit to the world as it did when the yanks invaded Iraq on phoney weapons of mass destruction. The only people stopping the civilian population from using that humanitarian corridor are the Ukraine militia. youtube.com/watch?v=G7qXOm5Hsag

George Galloway?
As trustworthy as Lord Haw-Haw.

The new alleged safe routes lead to Russia and Belaruse!
Let`s walk to the safe haven of our invaders lands■■?

And he’s any different from the west one sided biased reporting?

robroy:

lancpudn:
I see those clowns in Washington have “Green lighted” any NATO country who supplies their aircraft to Ukraine to fight Russia as all of Ukraine’s airfields are now bomb sites. Since when do these tools speak for every NATO country?
If any NATO country supplies war planes to Ukraine those airfields that they flew from would become legitimate targets, Poland has already told them to get stuffed.
Russian forces also found a US biological weapons facility on the Russian border, Like the yanks saying there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq the Russians now have an excuse to go to town on Ukraine. republicworld.com/world-new … eshow.html

The way I interpreted it was that the US were sending new planes to the Polish Air force, and the Poles were sending their existing planes for the Ukranians to use.
Not sure about their military airfields or the geography of their civil airports, but I suppose there must be somewhere for them to operate from considering the size of the country.

As for Putin and his claims of finding bio weapons?..Aye right, how convenient eh? Some justification.
I would not believe him if he told me what day it was,.are you telling me that you sctually believe him with his record so far?

Yeah I know what you’re saying whether it’s false or true the Russians have now done what the yanks did in Iraq. Made Ukraine a legitimate target.

robroy:
The way I interpreted it was that the US were sending new planes to the Polish Air force, and the Poles were sending their existing planes for the Ukranians to use.
Not sure about their military airfields or the geography of their civil airports, but I suppose there must be somewhere for them to operate from considering the size of the country.

Seems right, if it goes ahead.
Ukraine and Poland both have similar-ish MiG fighters. Pilots can move across relatively easily and quickly.
The US will supply F-16s to Poland and train up Polish pilots as the switch over is harder and longer.
F-16s won`t be readily usable for Ukranian pilots.

The MiGs are capable of “austere airfield” operations.
From when I went to some other ex Com-Blok countries there were sections of motorways with concrete pads designed specifically as emergency airstrips. Even if those are targeted a closed off m-way will be enough to refuel and re-arm a plane. It may not be getting its preferred level of maintenance for a long service life.....brave buggers sitting inside them arent either.

lancpudn:
I see those clowns in Washington have “Green lighted” any NATO country who supplies their aircraft to Ukraine to fight Russia as all of Ukraine’s airfields are now bomb sites. Since when do these tools speak for every NATO country?
If any NATO country supplies war planes to Ukraine those airfields that they flew from would become legitimate targets, Poland has already told them to get stuffed.
Russian forces also found a USbiological weapons facility on the Russian border, Like the yanks saying there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq the Russians now have an excuse to go to town on Ukraine. republicworld.com/world-new … eshow.html

Surely that lying pretext would actually give Russia the excuse to attack the US.So what are they waiting for if they are saying that the US intends to attack Russia with Ukraine based bio WMDs.
Lying Communist Russian scum.Nothing new there.
While that also seems to be saying that Poland is getting cold feet over the containment strategy which by definition makes Poland a battle field.
If they aren’t up for that then they obviously aren’t up for mutually assured destruction.
The wheels really are falling off US containment strategy now.If the US wants to fight Russia they’ll have to do it properly the old way.Putin is obviously back to finish what Kruschev started and it’s going to take the same response to stop the lying Commy KGB POS and his Chinese mates.
If anyone used bioweapons it was obviously them using them against us.
This argument can only end one way and it’s time for America to cut to the chase by turning the clock back to 1962.Russia wants to play with nukes then let’s hit the scum first.

lancpudn:

robroy:

lancpudn:
I see those clowns in Washington have “Green lighted” any NATO country who supplies their aircraft to Ukraine to fight Russia as all of Ukraine’s airfields are now bomb sites. Since when do these tools speak for every NATO country?
If any NATO country supplies war planes to Ukraine those airfields that they flew from would become legitimate targets, Poland has already told them to get stuffed.
Russian forces also found a US biological weapons facility on the Russian border, Like the yanks saying there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq the Russians now have an excuse to go to town on Ukraine. republicworld.com/world-new … eshow.html

The way I interpreted it was that the US were sending new planes to the Polish Air force, and the Poles were sending their existing planes for the Ukranians to use.
Not sure about their military airfields or the geography of their civil airports, but I suppose there must be somewhere for them to operate from considering the size of the country.

As for Putin and his claims of finding bio weapons?..Aye right, how convenient eh? Some justification.
I would not believe him if he told me what day it was,.are you telling me that you sctually believe him with his record so far?

Yeah I know what you’re saying whether it’s false or true the Russians have now done what the yanks did in Iraq. Made Ukraine a legitimate target.

Does the existence of a biological weapons lab mean that a country is a legitimate target?
Well, that means Russia, China, USA, UK etc etc are all up for immediate air attack…
You are speaking nonsense, sir.

The thought that Ukraine was amassing arms to invade and menace Russia? Really■■?

Ukraine gave up those nuclear weapons the USSR left on its territory. It hasnt sent troops into foreign countries as Russia has.
Putin and his apologists are making weak attempts to somehow justify his war.

Free speech and bias?
Just say “war” in Russia, instead of “special military operation” and risk jail.

Anyone else hear World At One last week? Repeated in first few minutes here:
bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00153yr

@Franglais. Provide me with your proof/link then that there is no bio-weapons? You’re speaking as much bolloxs as the biased western press too. The yanks deemed it OK to invade Iraq on that pretext to legitimize war, what’s good for the goose eh!yada yada.

All this “eleven day war” by the news sites, It’s been going on since 2014 when the democratic president Yanukovych was ousted (rightly so) by a kangeroo court at gun point. He should have faced a proper court of law instead of being ousted at gunpoint & a puppet government installed by the west.
The Ukraine ■■■■ militia’s have been bombing Donbass & Lugansk for eight years with the death toll topping 15000. You don’t hear much about those statistics do you!! How ironic Germany is now arming the Ukraine ■■■■’s with military hardware.
As the west has banned Russian news outlets I can still can get both sides of the story from the good the bad & the ugly & somewhere in between will be the truth, Rumble, Odysee or any VPN is still open to Russian news thankfully…

Entertainment for Carryfast:
youtube.com/watch?v=dxJHecy … el=EcuaVoz

lancpudn:
@Franglais. Provide me with your proof/link then that there is no bio-weapons? You’re speaking as much bolloxs as the biased western press too. The yanks deemed it OK to invade Iraq on that pretext to legitimize war, what’s good for the goose eh!yada yada.

All this “eleven day war” by the news sites, It’s been going on since 2014 when the democratic president Yanukovych was ousted (rightly so) by a kangeroo court at gun point. He should have faced a proper court of law instead of being ousted at gunpoint & a puppet government installed by the west.
The Ukraine ■■■■ militia’s have been bombing Donbass & Lugansk for eight years with the death toll topping 15000. You don’t hear much about those statistics do you!! How ironic Germany is now arming the Ukraine ■■■■’s with military hardware.
As the west has banned Russian news outlets I can still can get both sides of the story from the good the bad & the ugly & somewhere in between will be the truth, Rumble, Odysee or any VPN is still open to Russian news thankfully…

No. I cant prove there are no bio-weapons. Possession of bio=weapons alone is not reason to invade another country. Whether or not there are bio-weapons doesnt seem relevant to me. Ukraine wasn`t about to launch an attack on Russia.

Doubtless there are some very nasty people in Ukraine as there are in most countries. I don`t accept Ukraine is a ■■■■ Government.

The Donbas war? Starting the same time as Russia invaded Crimea, and with the separatists backed by…guess who? Russia.
How many of those thousands would be alive if it wasn`t for Russian interference?

There is one dictator in the region who has been in power for decades, and has altered the constitution to remain in power.
He has closed the free press in his own country and invaded a smaller neighbour. He has ordered his troops to take civilian targets.
Putin is the nearest to a ■■■■ here.

lancpudn:
@Franglais. Provide me with your proof/link then that there is no bio-weapons? You’re speaking as much bolloxs as the biased western press too. The yanks deemed it OK to invade Iraq on that pretext to legitimize war, what’s good for the goose eh!yada yada.

All this “eleven day war” by the news sites, It’s been going on since 2014 when the democratic president Yanukovych was ousted (rightly so) by a kangeroo court at gun point. He should have faced a proper court of law instead of being ousted at gunpoint & a puppet government installed by the west.
The Ukraine ■■■■ militia’s have been bombing Donbass & Lugansk for eight years with the death toll topping 15000. You don’t hear much about those statistics do you!! How ironic Germany is now arming the Ukraine ■■■■’s with military hardware.
As the west has banned Russian news outlets I can still can get both sides of the story from the good the bad & the ugly & somewhere in between will be the truth, Rumble, Odysee or any VPN is still open to Russian news thankfully…

I’m at a disadvantage here as you obviously know more about Ukraine, it’s history,.and it’s politics than I do.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but did I hear somewhere that both the President and the PM are both of Jewish descent,?
If in fact true., how does that correlate with your opinion of the Ukraine being a ■■■■ state and organisation,. when one of the fundamental policies of Naziism is/was, anti everything Jewish.

Buckstones:
Entertainment for Carryfast:
youtube.com/watch?v=dxJHecy … el=EcuaVoz

Here is the man himself…
expert in all things that go “Bang”
youtube.com/watch?v=gjo-lHXlp7k

Franglais:

Buckstones:
Entertainment for Carryfast:
youtube.com/watch?v=dxJHecy … el=EcuaVoz

Here is the man himself…
expert in all things that go “Bang”
youtube.com/watch?v=gjo-lHXlp7k

As opposed to kicking off WW3 with Russia but you’re scared of facing mutually assured destruction.
That’s working out well so far for Ukraine.

robroy:

lancpudn:
@Franglais. Provide me with your proof/link then that there is no bio-weapons? You’re speaking as much bolloxs as the biased western press too. The yanks deemed it OK to invade Iraq on that pretext to legitimize war, what’s good for the goose eh!yada yada.

All this “eleven day war” by the news sites, It’s been going on since 2014 when the democratic president Yanukovych was ousted (rightly so) by a kangeroo court at gun point. He should have faced a proper court of law instead of being ousted at gunpoint & a puppet government installed by the west.
The Ukraine ■■■■ militia’s have been bombing Donbass & Lugansk for eight years with the death toll topping 15000. You don’t hear much about those statistics do you!! How ironic Germany is now arming the Ukraine ■■■■’s with military hardware.
As the west has banned Russian news outlets I can still can get both sides of the story from the good the bad & the ugly & somewhere in between will be the truth, Rumble, Odysee or any VPN is still open to Russian news thankfully…

I’m at a disadvantage here as you obviously know more about Ukraine, it’s history,.and it’s politics than I do.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but did I hear somewhere that both the President and the PM are both of Jewish descent,?
If in fact true., how does that correlate with your opinion of the Ukraine being a ■■■■ state and organisation,. when one of the fundamental policies of Naziism is/was, anti everything Jewish.

They’re a puppet government installed by the the west & bankrolled by the USA & ex Russian oligarchs for their own geopolitical benefits & to use the Ukraine people as cannon fodder. Ukraine is split into different camps since the puppet government was installed in 2014 & one side has been poking the bear to get exactly this reaction, Playing stupid games wins you stupid prizes & they won the top prize. The AZOV militia regiment still to this day has ■■■■ insignia embroidered in their uniforms.