UK risks another HGV driver shortage

Carryfast:

Goff118:
This weekend just gone was the first since I started in February when there was no Tesco agency work available for me.

I don’t know if it may be full timers taking extra shifts, or less work due to a retail slowdown but not a good sign…

Bearing in mind that Tesco has shifted loads of truck journeys onto rail.Which obviously means less work for …truck drivers.
Meanwhile the local Tesco store here has loads of adverts in the entrance for warehouse staff and van delivery drivers.
While traffic on the road suggests massive growth in the light haulage/van sector of the industry including vans running distance work.Even to the point where trade use vans like plumbers etc are doing distance courier work with them instead.

I don’t think many stores in Wales & the South West are getting their deliveries by rail yet though?

Juddian:
I still say bring back real gearboxes because a good proportion of the chumps would self filter out, though i accept this is not a majority view :smiling_imp:

Do you want no power steering too?? Lol make it a real mans job again eh.

PaddyTheLorryDriver:

Juddian:
I still say bring back real gearboxes because a good proportion of the chumps would self filter out, though i accept this is not a majority view :smiling_imp:

Do you want no power steering too?? Lol make it a real mans job again eh.

To be fair you soon learned to sharpen up your maneuvering, no sitting there twiddling the wheel from lock to lock with your pinky :smiling_imp:

Juddian:

PaddyTheLorryDriver:

Juddian:
I still say bring back real gearboxes because a good proportion of the chumps would self filter out, though i accept this is not a majority view :smiling_imp:

Do you want no power steering too?? Lol make it a real mans job again eh.

To be fair you soon learned to sharpen up your maneuvering, no sitting there twiddling the wheel from lock to lock with your pinky :smiling_imp:

Every company should have a dedicated truck for all newbies` first week. No power steering.

:smiley:

Juddian:

PaddyTheLorryDriver:

Juddian:
I still say bring back real gearboxes because a good proportion of the chumps would self filter out, though i accept this is not a majority view :smiling_imp:

Do you want no power steering too?? Lol make it a real mans job again eh.

To be fair you soon learned to sharpen up your maneuvering, no sitting there twiddling the wheel from lock to lock with your pinky :smiling_imp:

Would love to see some of them now getting into a bay without PS. Jeez they would be knackered for the next week with all the oversteering they do. :laughing:

Challenge accepted, just get me an old unit and I’ll crack on

PaddyTheLorryDriver:

Juddian:
I still say bring back real gearboxes because a good proportion of the chumps would self filter out, though i accept this is not a majority view :smiling_imp:

Do you want no power steering too?? Lol make it a real mans job again eh.

Ironically a correctly driven constant mesh box is knife through butter finger tip light to shift.Get it wrong then trying to use brute force will just make it protest louder as it refuses to engage the gear.So no inconsistency with a liking for the lightest of power steering which from memory was the Foden S85 in my case.

Franglais:

tmcassett:
I don’t think it’s any coincidence that public services such as our NHS and schools have been decimated as well as a substantial housing shortage in the last 12 years. What could have possibly happened in that time to cause such a situation?

Yep…

Yeah, easy answer is to “solely” blame the Tories and only claim all this started 12 years ago while completely ignoring the fact that Blair and his labour government flooded the country with cheap labour from 2004 onwards that has had a knock on effect with my point above. By the way and for a little bit of balance, the Tories are far from blameless in this, along with incompetence within the NHS and education system from too much middle management. However, I am baffled how anyone cannot say that such large numbers entering this country in such a short space of time has not had a significant effect on the above.

Carryfast:
Bearing in mind that Tesco has shifted loads of truck journeys onto rail.Which obviously means less work for …truck drivers.
Meanwhile the local Tesco store here has loads of adverts in the entrance for warehouse staff and van delivery drivers.
While traffic on the road suggests massive growth in the light haulage/van sector of the industry including vans running distance work.Even to the point where trade use vans like plumbers etc are doing distance courier work with them instead.

Yet more fantasy and faff within your own head when you actually have no knowledge or experience of what you are talking about! :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:

tmcassett:

Carryfast:
Bearing in mind that Tesco has shifted loads of truck journeys onto rail.Which obviously means less work for …truck drivers.
Meanwhile the local Tesco store here has loads of adverts in the entrance for warehouse staff and van delivery drivers.
While traffic on the road suggests massive growth in the light haulage/van sector of the industry including vans running distance work.Even to the point where trade use vans like plumbers etc are doing distance courier work with them instead.

Yet more fantasy and faff within your own head when you actually have no knowledge or experience of what you are talking about! :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:

commercialmotor.com/news/tes … s-annually

It stricks to me that the consentration of people in the UK seems to be a narrow corridor stretching from Liverpool/Manchester down M6 and M1, while the might be lots of land in Scotland there isn’t so much land to build on where most people live. Compare it to France for example or Germany and the population is more spread out.

Maybe the solution is to send all the people arriving illegaly to Scotland.

The SNP are always attacking the UK government for trying to limit the number of imigrents whether legal or not and saying Scotland welcomes imigration.

They won’t go to Scotland, no one can understand what they’re saying (the Scots that is, not the Europeans)

Some Scottish politicians and a bought mainstream media might wax lyrical about wanting more immigrants, go out anf find people who work for a living and you’ll hear a different story, same as everywhere in Britain and both parts of Ireland.

tmcassett:

Franglais:

tmcassett:
I don’t think it’s any coincidence that public services such as our NHS and schools have been decimated as well as a substantial housing shortage in the last 12 years. What could have possibly happened in that time to cause such a situation?

Yep…

Yeah, easy answer is to “solely” blame the Tories and only claim all this started 12 years ago while completely ignoring the fact that Blair and his labour government flooded the country with cheap labour from 2004 onwards that has had a knock on effect with my point above. By the way and for a little bit of balance, the Tories are far from blameless in this, along with incompetence within the NHS and education system from too much middle management. However, I am baffled how anyone cannot say that such large numbers entering this country in such a short space of time has not had a significant effect on the above.

Who said Blair`s idea of the free access in 2004 was without effect? Not me.

“Cheap labour”? Labour supply does affect pay. The cheapest labour was ended by the Minimum Wage Act.
If it is too cheap today, it could be raised by the Gov.
Since some working full time get Gov aid, what do you reckon? Is it right that tax payers subsidise private profit making companies? Or do you follow the cries of “the free market decides”? When we are not in a free market!

Show us systematic incompetence in education and NHS.
NOT the Tory rags searching for odd cases of stupidity which are inevitable in any and all large organisations.
And WTF would anyone look at a Doctors surgery and assume that it is a good idea to have a qualified Medic spend their time arranging a cleaners hours or buying office supplies. Madness.
Pointing at “middle management” is as sensible as talking about “efficiencies need to be made”. The same old mantra needing no further thought.

switchlogic:

robroy:
do you think that …
A.Corbyn and his gang of prominently clowns would have made a much better PM
B.That he would still be in power today.
Just wondering.

To wade into this debate- there is literally no way he could have been worse. I’ve actually come to conclusion that he might have made a very decent PM but alas like so many the media hit job convinced me to be anti Corbyn, which I’m sort of ashamed of now. Whatever you can say about Corbyn the fact is he cares deeply about people, his career hasn’t been a desperate climb to the top dumping principles as and when required.

Yep.
(I wasnt going to reply as the thread was going back to its original track, but since tmcassett has started off again.)

Tory supporting rags knocking Labour leaders? Of course.
But I guess we agree that too many take it too seriously. The background noise is such that no-one needs to actually point out what is so bad about him! Just say Corbyn and everyone groans. But few will actually have give it any thought.

I guess you also noticed the silly dress sense pieces in the rags?
Michael Foot dresses in donkey jacket. > Sinner. Disrespectful. Not suitable.
Corbyn wears no tie.> Fool, no sense.
Johnson looks like a poorly dressed scarecrow.> Character, individualistic.

The fear with Corbyn was he was fiscally irresponsible, having john mcdonnell shadow chancellor didnt help.
In retrospect… Even I do not think Jeremy would of spent as much as this Tory government has lol.

Remember all the fear mongering? ‘JEREMY WILL BANKRUPT US’ LOL

adam277:
The fear with Corbyn was he was fiscally irresponsible, having john mcdonnell shadow chancellor didnt help.
In retrospect… Even I do not think Jeremy would of spent as much as this Tory government has lol.

Remember all the fear mongering? ‘JEREMY WILL BANKRUPT US’ LOL

I think he’s sympathies within terrorist organisations in the Middle East and Ireland as well as the perceived anti Semitism kinda disqualified him from credibility tbh if what we were led to believe was true, …then of course we had the Diane Abbot as deputy pm scenario. :open_mouth:

adam277:
The fear with Corbyn was he was fiscally irresponsible, having john mcdonnell shadow chancellor didnt help.
In retrospect… Even I do not think Jeremy would of spent as much as this Tory government has lol.

Remember all the fear mongering? ‘JEREMY WILL BANKRUPT US’ LOL

Indeed Adam, the most profligate labour govt would have been hard pressed to ■■■■ as much borrowed money up the wall as the tories.

robroy:

adam277:
The fear with Corbyn was he was fiscally irresponsible, having john mcdonnell shadow chancellor didnt help.
In retrospect… Even I do not think Jeremy would of spent as much as this Tory government has lol.

Remember all the fear mongering? ‘JEREMY WILL BANKRUPT US’ LOL

I think he’s sympathies within terrorist organisations in the Middle East and Ireland as well as the perceived anti Semitism kinda disqualified him from credibility tbh if what we were led to believe was true, …then of course we had the Diane Abbot as deputy pm scenario. :open_mouth:

The truth is Corbyn is a brainwashed Bolshevik.Hiding under the false flag that Socialism means something different to Communism.He lives by the ideology of the collective and by definition, like the Arabs’ Soviet backers, he finds the idea of Israeli self determination a threat.
It also explains his veering between anti EU and pro EU as it suits him.When push came to shove he couldn’t hide his collectivist ideology.He obviously doesn’t back Sinn Feinn because he thinks they are Nationalists in that regard.

robroy:

adam277:
The fear with Corbyn was he was fiscally irresponsible, having john mcdonnell shadow chancellor didnt help.
In retrospect… Even I do not think Jeremy would of spent as much as this Tory government has lol.

Remember all the fear mongering? ‘JEREMY WILL BANKRUPT US’ LOL

I think he’s sympathies within terrorist organisations in the Middle East and Ireland as well as the perceived anti Semitism kinda disqualified him from credibility tbh if what we were led to believe was true, …then of course we had the Diane Abbot as deputy pm scenario. :open_mouth:

As opposed to this startlingly competent Deputy PM.

indy100.com/amp/therese-cof … 2658423442