All overnight trunk runs cancelled tonight (Friday 9th June} and all day drivers were recalled to their depots at dinner and told to make no more deliveries and to make no collections.
Announcement 12 noon on Monday.
Does not look good similar situation as to how City Link packed in at short notice. 
Here’s a few customers posts off Facebook.
telegraph.co.uk/business/20 … tion-jobs/
Tuffnells is understood to have told its 2,300-strong workforce to go home on Friday afternoon as it prepares for administration.
All drivers were called back to their depots on Friday and a national meeting of staff has been scheduled for Monday at 12pm, with the expectation that an administration will be formally announced.
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The same article and others also talk about former tuffnels staff allegedly taking confidential information to DX. Seems there was an ongoing court battle over that with DX.
Sold to Palm Bidco for just £15m in 2020 to be paid over 3 years. Smiths news bought tuffnels in 2014 for near enough £115m so a cool £100m loss on the deal after buying them.
Palm Bidco is a specialist purpose vehicle backed by investors brought together by the specialist restructuring advisory firm Broad Oak Support Services (BOSS) to support an extended Tuffnells management team, which is set to be led by new chief executive Ignacio Garat
Didn’t they do well in turning around it’s fortunes?
Operating loss of £14.4m in 2020 when it was sold to Palm Bidco.
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With tuffnells and cross transport going plus maybe numerous others . Who’s going to pick up the work they did then. As the works obviously still there.
Who’s going take on all the drops that tuffnells some company maybe mad enough to
Looking forward to TruckNet parcels correspondent CF to tell us exactly what went wrong
switchlogic:
Looking forward to TruckNet parcels correspondent CF to tell us exactly what went wrong
Nah too much manual handling involved typing on a keyboard to reply to this thread [emoji23]
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edd1974:
With tuffnells and cross transport going plus maybe numerous others . Who’s going to pick up the work they did then. As the works obviously still there.
Who’s going take on all the drops that tuffnells some company maybe mad enough to
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blue estate:
edd1974:
With tuffnells and cross transport going plus maybe numerous others . Who’s going to pick up the work they did then. As the works obviously still there.
Who’s going take on all the drops that tuffnells some company maybe mad enough toArrow Xl
Fed up/dynamite, parcel Pete drop it hide it lose it. DX, evri thing lost plus all the numerous others. One man’s loss is always another means gain.
They all will be picking at the Carcass before it’s even dead and most likely are already doing so.
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simcor:
The same article and others also talk about former tuffnels staff allegedly taking confidential information to DX. Seems there was an ongoing court battle over that with DX.Sold to Palm Bidco for just £15m in 2020 to be paid over 3 years. Smiths news bought tuffnels in 2014 for near enough £115m so a cool £100m loss on the deal after buying them.
Palm Bidco is a specialist purpose vehicle backed by investors brought together by the specialist restructuring advisory firm Broad Oak Support Services (BOSS) to support an extended Tuffnells management team, which is set to be led by new chief executive Ignacio Garat
Didn’t they do well in turning around it’s fortunes?
Operating loss of £14.4m in 2020 when it was sold to Palm Bidco.
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They are not there to “turn around its fortunes”. They are there to asset strip the company, ie. strip the meat from the bone, cherry-picking the juicy contracts and offloading them, then what remains is the worthless carcass that nobody wants, which is the point where the administrators are brought in to wind up the company and hand the staff their P45s.
Much of their cargo was oversized, heavy and odd-shaped stuff that none of the other couriers want because it’s too time-intensive handling it vs. the avalanche of damage claims they have to deal with. TNT used to do a lot of this type of cargo, but once FedEx took over they’ve been gradually sacking it off through exorbitant pricing as they only want cargo in nice and easy square boxes to get maximum volume per cube.
DCPCFML:
simcor:
The same article and others also talk about former tuffnels staff allegedly taking confidential information to DX. Seems there was an ongoing court battle over that with DX.Sold to Palm Bidco for just £15m in 2020 to be paid over 3 years. Smiths news bought tuffnels in 2014 for near enough £115m so a cool £100m loss on the deal after buying them.
Palm Bidco is a specialist purpose vehicle backed by investors brought together by the specialist restructuring advisory firm Broad Oak Support Services (BOSS) to support an extended Tuffnells management team, which is set to be led by new chief executive Ignacio Garat
Didn’t they do well in turning around it’s fortunes?
Operating loss of £14.4m in 2020 when it was sold to Palm Bidco.
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They are not there to “turn around its fortunes”. They are there to asset strip the company, ie. strip the meat from the bone, cherry-picking the juicy contracts and offloading them, then what remains is the worthless carcass that nobody wants, which is the point where the administrators are brought in to wind up the company and hand the staff their P45s.
Much of their cargo was oversized, heavy and odd-shaped stuff that none of the other couriers want because it’s too time-intensive handling it vs. the avalanche of damage claims they have to deal with. TNT used to do a lot of this type of cargo, but once FedEx took over they’ve been gradually sacking it off through exorbitant pricing as they only want cargo in nice and easy square boxes to get maximum volume per cube.
Good point tbh and I did say that to my mum earlier when talking about it, most likely reason was buying it for peanuts and asset strip it of anything worthwhile and let it go to the wall as always.
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Push bikes & wheelbarrows step ladders etc who will deliver these items now the likes of Asprey & Tuffnells have gone
DCPCFML:
Much of their cargo was oversized, heavy and odd-shaped stuff that none of the other couriers want because it’s too time-intensive handling it vs. the avalanche of damage claims they have to deal with. TNT used to do a lot of this type of cargo, but once FedEx took over they’ve been gradually sacking it off through exorbitant pricing as they only want cargo in nice and easy square boxes to get maximum volume per cube.
This is where the pallet system companies take over. “oversized, heavy and odd-shaped stuff” is exactly what they do best.
Santa:
DCPCFML:
Much of their cargo was oversized, heavy and odd-shaped stuff that none of the other couriers want because it’s too time-intensive handling it vs. the avalanche of damage claims they have to deal with. TNT used to do a lot of this type of cargo, but once FedEx took over they’ve been gradually sacking it off through exorbitant pricing as they only want cargo in nice and easy square boxes to get maximum volume per cube.This is where the pallet system companies take over. “oversized, heavy and odd-shaped stuff” is exactly what they do best.
Yep. Just about anything is deliverable, one way or t`other, of course it is.
But as in all businesses you need to make a profit doing it. Understand all of your costs, charge the correct amount and the rest is easy.
I know much easier said than done, but the principle is simple.
Santa:
DCPCFML:
Much of their cargo was oversized, heavy and odd-shaped stuff that none of the other couriers want because it’s too time-intensive handling it vs. the avalanche of damage claims they have to deal with. TNT used to do a lot of this type of cargo, but once FedEx took over they’ve been gradually sacking it off through exorbitant pricing as they only want cargo in nice and easy square boxes to get maximum volume per cube.This is where the pallet system companies take over. “oversized, heavy and odd-shaped stuff” is exactly what they do best.
Not in my experience! Oversized and odd-shaped stuff that goes via a pallet network very often arrives at its destination damaged or in bits after being butchered by 5 different FLT drivers in the transportation process.
simcor:
The same article and others also talk about former tuffnels staff allegedly taking confidential information to DX. Seems there was an ongoing court battle over that with DX.Sold to Palm Bidco for just £15m in 2020 to be paid over 3 years. Smiths news bought tuffnels in 2014 for near enough £115m so a cool £100m loss on the deal after buying them.
I didn’t know Smiths News owned Tuffnels for for a while. Reminded me of a time then DX and Menzies were trying to tie something together but it fell by the wayside.
SHYTOT:
Push bikes & wheelbarrows step ladders etc who will deliver these items now the likes of Asprey & Tuffnells have gone
DX, I worked for them for about a year. They will deliver anything anywhere - usually inappropriate locations in an artic. As was mentioned somewhere else on this thread they take on all the big bulky stuff most other courier firms won’t touch.
One regular collection I used to go to would continually alternate between DX and Tuffnells, both provided crap service and used to cause horrific amounts of damage to their products but were the only 2 willing to transport their stuff.
DX Freight and Tuffnells always had managers leaving one to go to another. No doubt there was a lot of client poaching going on.
Tuffnells had an interesting trunking set up though. They still mainly used A-frame trailers. No central hub so night trunk drivers would visit up to 2-5 depots at night doing trailer swaps. Maybe that is in part the issue I am pretty sure every other parcel firm has a central hub.
IDW business has always been pretty tough though.
Yea, stuff with DX and Tuffnells got damaged a lot. But the majority of parcel firms will refuse to take a industrial cooker, lamposts, mobility scooters etc. Tuffnells /DX will take anything.
adam277:
DX Freight and Tuffnells always had managers leaving one to go to another. No doubt there was a lot of client poaching going on.Tuffnells had an interesting trunking set up though. They still mainly used A-frame trailers. No central hub so night trunk drivers would visit up to 2-5 depots at night doing trailer swaps. Maybe that is in part the issue I am pretty sure every other parcel firm has a central hub.
IDW business has always been pretty tough though.
Yea, stuff with DX and Tuffnells got damaged a lot. But the majority of parcel firms will refuse to take a industrial cooker, lamposts, mobility scooters etc. Tuffnells /DX will take anything.
Going off on a slight tangent. A lot of the customers don’t help themselves when it comes to suitable packaging for their stuff. I bought a king size latex mattress (65kg) a couple of years ago and was expecting it to arrive in the shape you’d expect, enclosed in thick polythene, along with meaty carry handles. Nope! It arrived rolled up in a normal thickness cardboard box (no reinforced base or edges), with no hand holes to use to move it. So due to the size of the box, the only way to move it on your own was to drag it on its edge along the floor. Predictably, when the young girl arrived in her TNT 7.5 tonner at my house, the box was pretty much in tatters, with the mattress half hanging out of it, polythene ripped and the mattress marked with dirt and scuffs. And she wasn’t able to lift it (neither could I) so had to get help from my neighbour to carry it to my house.
You would think from the inevitable long list of damage claims that the company would use something more suitable, which would be to do away with the box entirely and simply use mattress straps with an integrated carrying handle which would enable quick and easy handling of a rolled up mattress. They sell them on Amazon for about a fiver each. You’d obviously get them a lot of cheaper B2B if you’re buying them in bulk and when you’re charging over a grand for latex mattress you can easily ‘lose’ the cost of the strap, plus it would be FAR cheaper overall when the factor in the much reduced list of damage claims.
once sent a motorbike to Scotland with Tuffnells ,had to drain the fuel first, at their depot,a guy there gave me a newspaper to make a funnel!
Tuffnells has gone to the wall insolvent everyone made redundant with immediate effect.
What a sorry sad situation.
DX must be rubbing their hands.
