desypete:
so no more chances to either labour or the cons in my book its time for a real change and what is the worst that could happen if ukip turn out to be like all the rest ? we will never know until ukip are given that chance
+1
Especially in our case being that UKIP’s policy,regarding development v the rest,would probably be the difference between this remaining an area worth staying in,as opposed to yet another extension of ‘Greater London’ meaning its time to have to move. 
desypete:
what a load of bollox billy as per normali can not get into Australia for a driving job but anyone can come here for a driving job as our system is nothing like the aussie one, even in that report you just shown, it states that the goverment changed the laws for anyone unskilled coming into the country but only for people outside of the eu anyone in eu is welcome to come with nothing stopping them, this is the problem people are up in arms about
just face it if any of us want to live out in Australia the answer would be no, unless we have a skill they need, like drs or nurses, hence our nhs is in such a mess as our own people get trained up and then leave the country to be replaced by you know who ? English is not there native tongue. is a clue
I voted for Nige
desypete:
what a load of bollox billy as per normali can not get into Australia for a driving job but anyone can come here for a driving job as our system is nothing like the aussie one, even in that report you just shown, it states that the goverment changed the laws for anyone unskilled coming into the country but only for people outside of the eu anyone in eu is welcome to come with nothing stopping them, this is the problem people are up in arms about
yet again billy you ignore what is real and come up with slanted rubbish which is nothing more that bollox as per normal
just face it if any of us want to live out in Australia the answer would be no, unless we have a skill they need, like drs or nurses, hence our nhs is in such a mess as our own people get trained up and then leave the country to be replaced by you know who ? English is not there native tongue. is a clue
It might well be bollox in your eyes but it’s fact, but then again anything you don’t agree with seems to be bollox so at least you’re consistent. You do realise I didn’t write that piece don’t you? It’s a piece by the BBC, yes I know those haters of, well anyone you like really, I do love a good conspiracy.
So, why all the interest in Australia? As I’ve said I’ve been and tbh didn’t see anything to keep me there, have a look at the thread about someone coming back just so you know I haven’t put a slant on things. Besides I’m sure if you tried you could get there, they’ve got to be gagging for ex drivers, unqualified to European standard, haven’t they?
Simple question for you, what happens to ukip after a referendum and the vote is to stay in? Pretty much urinates on their bonfire doesn’t it. Roll on Friday.
BillyHunt:
Simple question for you, what happens to ukip after a referendum and the vote is to stay in? Pretty much urinates on their bonfire doesn’t it. Roll on Friday.
Firstly the stay in vote didn’t seem to do the SNP any harm. 
Meanwhile the obvious answer is that there would be a lot more chance of an out vote with a strong out campaign in the form of UKIP than just leaving it to the same old LabLibdemCon and now also SNP whitewash and propaganda coup which we had in 1975.But from UKIP’s point of view the probably inevitable hostile SNP/Labour ‘co alition’ and takeover of the country in which a few Scots and bunch of Northern and Welsh Socialists all run the place for their own benefit,by holding the resulting hung government to ransom,can only make UKIP’s position stronger in England.
Hopefully to the point,by then,where it doesn’t just get enough support to push the resulting mess into an EU referendum but also just as importantly an English independence one too.Assuming that is UKIP has the sense to ditch the UK angle and they can do it while there is still anyone left in the South East to vote for them,before Labour and the SNP,with some Con party help,have finished turning it into an urbanised immigrants paradise.
Carryfast:
BillyHunt:
Simple question for you, what happens to ukip after a referendum and the vote is to stay in? Pretty much urinates on their bonfire doesn’t it. Roll on Friday.Firstly the stay in vote didn’t seem to do the SNP any harm.
Meanwhile the obvious answer is that there would be a lot more chance of an out vote with a strong out campaign in the form of UKIP than just leaving it to the same old LabLibdemCon and now also SNP whitewash and propaganda coup which we had in 1975.But from UKIP’s point of view the probably inevitable hostile SNP/Labour ‘co alition’ and takeover of the country in which a few Scots and bunch of Northern and Welsh Socialists all run the place for their own benefit,by holding the resulting hung government to ransom,can only make UKIP’s position stronger in England.
Hopefully to the point,by then,where it doesn’t just get enough support to push the resulting mess into an EU referendum but also just as importantly an English independence one too.Assuming that is UKIP has the sense to ditch the UK angle and they can do it while there is still anyone left in the South East to vote for them,before Labour and the SNP,with some Con party help,have finished turning it into an urbanised immigrants paradise.
That’s not an answer, it’s your version of how other parties might gang up on ukip to prevent an out vote, as usual a figment of your imagination. Again, where would it leave ukip if the referendum went against them?
BillyHunt:
That’s not an answer, it’s your version of how other parties might gang up on ukip to prevent an out vote, as usual a figment of your imagination. Again, where would it leave ukip if the referendum went against them?
As I said the fact that the usual suspects will go into propaganda over drive to get an in vote is a given based on previous example.The difference is just in the strength of the opposition to that which is obviously stronger with UKIP than we had last time around with a few LabCon rebels.
Assuming UKIP loses the referendum as I said it seems obvious that the EU federalists here and on the continent would take full advantage of that in seeing it as carte blanche to stitch us up as part of the full on federal Europe ( USE ).At which point UKIP’s cause can only get stronger not weaker in that even most of the naive mugs who have followed the pro EU LabLibdemCon agenda, up to that point,will probably be shouting to get us out.
In just the same way as a large scale success for the SNP in this election will massively strengthen the case for English independence.
All I can say to everyone is, whatever you do, please don’t vote labour. They will need propping up by the snp, and Jimmy Krankee will have her hand right up Eds kilt. And we’ll all be ■■■■■■
amamdada:
Going to vote UKIP this time around,have never voted conservative and never would ,still remember what they did to the miners and then proceeded to prostitute the utility companies to the highest bidders(all foreign incidentally) whilst spunking north sea gas and oil revenues to the point where the UK is now a nett gas importer. Cant do the Lib Dems after Mr.Cleggs dramatic u turn over students tuition fees still amazed how the man manages to stand erect as he has no backbone what so ever. Mr Milliband has gone up in my estimation over this campaign although the danger with them is lurking in the shadows in the form of Mr Balls quite an apt surname as that is what he talks most of the time. I watched an interesting documentary on how he handled the baby P case and basically hung out Sharon Shoesmith to dry with almost indecent haste (she subsequently had her day in court and won damages). It was pandering to the media in its worst possible way and Sharon Shoesmith’s life was not the only one he ruined, how could we even begin to think that a man who has so little idea of due diligence can run the countries finances.
So its Nigel for me this time around.
Sorry to say it but you really are suffering with whats called Labour Blindness, You state that it was Tories who spunked the North sea Gas And Oil, Not Fact at all and how short a memory you have. Quote the letter left by Labour at the treasury when they left the Building, " Im afraid there is no money left " good luck ,You fail to mention that Labour Bankrupt this country led by Brown and his sidekicks Milliband and Balls, And if you want a real Fact about Spunking our assets, then look no further than LABOUR who sold all of our Gold Reserves at a massive loss just to hide up there gross overspending. I will vote Conservative for the first time as they have taken over a bankrupt Country and turned around our economy this is not a fairy tail but actual fact. Labour took over a Growing economy when they came into power But SPUNKED the lot and put us into massive DEBT I will never ever trust then again…
OVLOV JAY:
All I can say to everyone is, whatever you do, please don’t vote labour. They will need propping up by the snp, and Jimmy Krankee will have her hand right up Eds kilt. And we’ll all be [zb]
Have to agree, Labour/SNP would be a complete disaster for the country. Problem is where I am, it was Conservative but it’s now expected to go to Labour, that’s not because of increased support for Labour but because the UKIP support will take votes away from Conservative and put them in a minority and I think that’s going to happen all over the country, so I predict we’ll get Labour/SNP whether we vote for them or not. Just hope I’m wrong.
I watched the final leaders debate last week, where red edsaid on live TV, he’s not interested in a coalition of any kind, he didn’t want to be prime minister without a majority. Now today he’s saying he won’t lead a coalition without a deal. When he gets in, you can all witness his first lie unravel within 12 hours, as he scuttles off up the A1, cap in hand
wing-nut:
OVLOV JAY:
All I can say to everyone is, whatever you do, please don’t vote labour. They will need propping up by the snp, and Jimmy Krankee will have her hand right up Eds kilt. And we’ll all be [zb]Have to agree, Labour/SNP would be a complete disaster for the country. Problem is where I am, it was Conservative but it’s now expected to go to Labour, that’s not because of increased support for Labour but because the UKIP support will take votes away from Conservative and put them in a minority and I think that’s going to happen all over the country, so I predict we’ll get Labour/SNP whether we vote for them or not. Just hope I’m wrong.
Exactly why people shouldn’t vote labour. Better off to have a con/dem or con/ukip coalition than risk Alex Salmond pulling the strings
amamdada:
have never voted conservative and never would ,still remember what they did to the miners
I always had the impression the miners did it to themselves
amamdada:
Mr Milliband has gone up in my estimation over this campaign although the danger with them is lurking in the shadows in the form of Mr Balls quite an apt surname as that is what he talks most of the time.
A very apt surname indeed after paying for his windows with not one, but two rubber cheques.
just before you all go to vote lads, google how much is ed miliband worth, you will get an almighty shock hes a multi millionaire, the richest man in the house of commons is a labour man, even my local mp sorry I mean to**er is a millionaire Yvette cooper and her husband eddy balls up, just have a look , so why is labour always calling the toffs with money, I thought lefties were supposed to be commies. 
and if this poll is anything to go by the show aint over yet. 
wing-nut:
Have to agree, Labour/SNP would be a complete disaster for the country. Problem is where I am, it was Conservative but it’s now expected to go to Labour, that’s not because of increased support for Labour but because the UKIP support will take votes away from Conservative and put them in a minority and I think that’s going to happen all over the country, so I predict we’ll get Labour/SNP whether we vote for them or not. Just hope I’m wrong.
It gets a bit tiring to hear the same old biased vote Farage get Miliband Con propaganda.The fact is from a UKIP vote point of view the Cons are as bad as the Libdems and if too many Conservative voters would still prefer to vote for that than UKIP then that’s their problem,on the basis of vote Cameron get LabLibdemConSNP who all have more in common with each other than with UKIP.While whatever happens,assuming a large SNP gain, the idea of the UK is,hopefully,toast in the long term and then we can at least move forward towards a more locally accountable form of government.In which UKIP,being anti federalist in nature,would be the most suited Party at least in looking after the interests of the South East.
Carryfast:
BillyHunt:
Here you go, instead of making stuff up have a read.
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29594642The way I read it is just yet more biased Socialist cheap labour alliance agenda bs.Which no surprise selectively concentrates on so called ‘legal’ immigration.
While conveniently ignoring the issue of illegal and/or so called ‘asylum’ seekers.The successful deportation of which stands at around 33%.In addition to EU immigration which is effectively an open door to anyone who can show ‘EU citizenship’.Hopefully at least the latter two issues obviously being what UKIP intends to sort out as part of ‘its’ immigration policy which at least makes it worth the UKIP vote.Although as I said UKIP’s excessive concentration on the Australian model doesn’t look good in that regard.
As opposed to the LabLibdemConSNP alliance.Bearing in mind the obvious media softening up exercise,especially by the usual BBC and Channel 4 suspects,that is already under way,regarding acceptance here of illegal African/Asian immigrants who can manage to make it to Italy or Spain.
I’ve just had a look at the bbc link there - and I agree with you for what a load of ■■■■■■■■ is is - mis-representing statistics as to tell it all as an outright lie.
Consider this: They are counting people coming to this country full stop.
The Chinese “coming to this country” are primarily tourists and university students. They are not staying.
The Indians will be joining family members already here. As and when they do their stereotypical thing and run more taxis and open more corner shops - that doesn’t represent sponging off the state.
The Polish are here to work. My local dentist is Polish rather than the plumber being so, and many of the warehouse staff at the depots I work out of have Poles & Lithuanians in particular. Got no problem with any of them.
The Americans? Has anyone met an American in this country living on benefits? I can’t say I have. Tourism and perhaps the higher-paid jobs, and a smattering of University students.
Then the piece de la resistance: THE BRITISH… How TF can a British citizen be considered to be an immigrant? This was the stunt they tried to pull with the gurkas I believe. If you are a British citizen (ie hold a British passport) then NO ONE is MORE entitled to live in this country, job or not.
The figures given as “most popular immigrant nations” miss out all the criminals/terroists, all those not paying any taxes, and of course all those on benefits - the three main groups that we see as a threat to our nation, economy, and public services/finances respectively.
A sorry attempt by auntie beeb to make us think that truth is bull and vice-versa. If it is possible to be to the left of the Labour party - The BBC acting as “Fourth Estate” when they are not required to be - has seemingly managed it.
It’s about time this country woke up and distilled the “trouble” immigrants from the benign ones. Every attempt made by Farage so far seems to merely result in howls of “Racist Party” however. We’ll find out within 24 hours now - are the public going to buy the “Broken Britain Con” which surely must be what the BBC stands for these days. Farge even knows this - he wants to scrap it, and turn it into a private pay TV channel like the rest. Without that cashcow funding from licence payers - the BBC would be forced to clean up it’s act. Even with this the Daily Wail talked about “Banning Dr Who” when it was the biased public-manupulating lie shows that were meaning to be scrapped… Dr Who with it’s flights of fancy was never meant to be part of the “lie show” line-up I think you’ll find. 
Muckaway:
How many people who complain about cheap immigrant workers will still pay them to wash their cars in a supermarket car park?
I don’t let them anywhere near my car - don’t want to encourage them to stay… My partner does though, as she has no concept of using a bucket and sponge… 
No way on god’s earth will I be voting Labour, as its those pillocks that rubber stamped this country into becoming a dumping ground to begin with.
Time to forget political correctness and go for plain speaking this time around. Britain for the British…
Lib Dem. Only way to make sure the Tories don’t win, as Labour aren’t making any effort in my area. Pretty gutted as they sold out on almost everything.
just cast my vote this morning and its ukip all the way for me
the only other option i would vote for these days is the monster raving loony party, i dont have a clue what they stand for but any party has to be better than the cons,lab, or libs the greens make sense on things to me but there stance on immigration put me off them also that leader of theres, with her aussie accent put me off,i love the aussies but there accent is worse than a brummie one. how can they have a leader who isn’t from this country born and bread, she looks like the bride of Frankenstein and sounds worse than a dummy brummie.
so its ukip for me all the way, fingers crossed they get a good few mps and are able to cause the upper class twits some real headaches over the next 5 years