limeyphil:
It’s just annoying when people can’t win an argument, So they resort to the “what if it was your wife and kids” scenario.
It’s like when the counrty went all politically correct. “How to get off with this? I know, i’ll play the race card”.
Same tune, different lyrics.
There’s no proof he was stoned. They found some joints and some weed. It would be more worrying if he’d smoked the joints and the weed.
He could have been ill.
I’m just thankful that idiots like yourself only make up the minority of the population.
Had you bothered to read the link, you’ll have read that the police had received numerous calls about the manner that the truck was being driven. Once stopped, the driver failed a roadside impairment test. How does that make your theory look now?
An idiot like me?
Look at the facts. He failed an impairment test, This would have been conducted by a police officer, Not a Doctor.
He had five UNSMOKED joints in his cab.
Was he ill?
Did he suffer from positional vertigo? Sleep apnea? Diabetes? Bee sting? peanut allergy?
We don’t know.
But i’m obviously the idiot because i’m not so quick to judge.
I very much doubt the above medical conditions would render you unable to pass a roadside impairment test?
Which medical conditions above would cause a driver to (presumably) swerve in and out of his lane for several miles?
All of them. Positional vertigo is very common amongst lorry drivers.
So a driver suffering from one of the conditions you list would continue driving despite being unwell? Really?
How would these medical conditions result in someone failing a roadside test?
The five tests being:
The Pupil Measure Test. Examination of the driver’s eye pupil size, condition and reaction to light.
The Romberg Test. This test assesses the subject’s balance and judgement of time. The subject is asked to tilt their head back slightly, close their eyes and estimate the passage of thirty seconds.
The Walk and Turn Test. The subject must walk heel to toe along a straight line, counting their steps out loud and looking at their feet while doing so.
The One Leg Stand Test. The subject must stand on one leg while counting out loud.
The Finger to Nose Test. With the head tilted slightly backwards and eyes closed, the subject must touch the tip of their nose with the tip of their finger with the hand indicated by the officer.
Thetaff2:
Diabetes would have similar effects as I seem to remember watching one of those cop reality shows in the USA that they pursued a car for several miles thinking she was ■■■■■■ and it turned out her blood sugar levels were extremely low causing her to swerve in and out of traffic.
And my bro in law is a diabetic and I’ve witnessed first hand the symptoms of having a low blood sugar count.Not whilst driving though.
That’s exactly my point. The fact that he had joints in the cab is purely circumstantial until blood tests are carried out.
CSI trucknet however will have someone hung drawn and quatered.
God help anyone who’s found to blink more times than the national average.
Thetaff2:
Diabetes would have similar effects as I seem to remember watching one of those cop reality shows in the USA that they pursued a car for several miles thinking she was ■■■■■■ and it turned out her blood sugar levels were extremely low causing her to swerve in and out of traffic.
And my bro in law is a diabetic and I’ve witnessed first hand the symptoms of having a low blood sugar count.Not whilst driving though.
I would have thought that any decent truck driver who falls ill at the wheel would pull over immediately?
Besides, if your diabetes were that severe, you probably wouldn’t be driving a truck?
Good point,but be aware that I read that there is a lot of people who don’t realise they have diabetes until they get diagnosed,my brother in law certainly didn’t.
Until he collapsed one day,considering that it’s very common in people who are overweight and you know as well as me many a truck driver has relaxed muscles so to speak.
I get your point. But, again if you felt unwell while driving, you’d stop immediately and not carry on driving for several miles?
RoadsRat:
Possible but tiredness wouldn’t cause you to fail a roadside impairment test.
The five tests are:
The Pupil Measure Test. Examination of the driver’s eye pupil size, condition and reaction to light.
The Romberg Test. This test assesses the subject’s balance and judgement of time. The subject is asked to tilt their head back slightly, close their eyes and estimate the passage of thirty seconds.
The Walk and Turn Test. The subject must walk heel to toe along a straight line, counting their steps out loud and looking at their feet while doing so.
The One Leg Stand Test. The subject must stand on one leg while counting out loud.
The Finger to Nose Test. With the head tilted slightly backwards and eyes closed, the subject must touch the tip of their nose with the tip of their finger with the hand indicated by the officer.
You don’t fail these tests (especially pupil measurement test) due to “tiredness”.
And you do all of these tests on the hard shoulder of the M25 while traffic is passing at 70 mph?
How long do they take to do? Ten or fifteen minutes?
Do you not consider that this might be dangerous? Or are you so “highly trained” that you can stop a truck on the hard shoulder of a motorway in such a way that there is no possibility of a passing vehicle colliding with it?
Thetaff2:
Diabetes would have similar effects as I seem to remember watching one of those cop reality shows in the USA that they pursued a car for several miles thinking she was ■■■■■■ and it turned out her blood sugar levels were extremely low causing her to swerve in and out of traffic.
And my bro in law is a diabetic and I’ve witnessed first hand the symptoms of having a low blood sugar count.Not whilst driving though.
That’s exactly my point. The fact that he had joints in the cab is purely circumstantial until blood tests are carried out.
CSI trucknet however will have someone hung drawn and quatered.
God help anyone who’s found to blink more times than the national average.
But his behaviour was such that it worried other road users enough to call the police. He failed an impairment test (most medical conditions and tiredness would not) and a subsequent tweet not posted here did say that he was going to have his blood tested.
Shockingly the attitude some here seem to have towards drink/drug driving is quite worrying.
Thetaff2:
Diabetes would have similar effects as I seem to remember watching one of those cop reality shows in the USA that they pursued a car for several miles thinking she was ■■■■■■ and it turned out her blood sugar levels were extremely low causing her to swerve in and out of traffic.
And my bro in law is a diabetic and I’ve witnessed first hand the symptoms of having a low blood sugar count.Not whilst driving though.
That’s exactly my point. The fact that he had joints in the cab is purely circumstantial until blood tests are carried out.
CSI trucknet however will have someone hung drawn and quatered.
God help anyone who’s found to blink more times than the national average.
But his behaviour was such that it worried other road users enough to call the police. He failed an impairment test (most medical conditions and tiredness would not) and a subsequent tweet not posted here did say that he was going to have his blood tested.
Shockingly the attitude some here seem to have towards drink/drug driving is quite worrying.
limeyphil:
It’s just annoying when people can’t win an argument, So they resort to the “what if it was your wife and kids” scenario.
It’s like when the counrty went all politically correct. “How to get off with this? I know, i’ll play the race card”.
Same tune, different lyrics.
There’s no proof he was stoned. They found some joints and some weed. It would be more worrying if he’d smoked the joints and the weed.
He could have been ill.
I’m just thankful that idiots like yourself only make up the minority of the population.
Had you bothered to read the link, you’ll have read that the police had received numerous calls about the manner that the truck was being driven. Once stopped, the driver failed a roadside impairment test. How does that make your theory look now?
can you explain to me why that copper isn’t getting prosecuted for doing 140mph on the A1■■? Any other member of Joe Public would have the book thrown at them but as usual it’s one rule for the boys in blue and another for the rest of us.
Does “Joe Public” have the same level of advanced driving ability?
He has been severely disciplined btw.
Best comedy I’ve read on here in a while
RoadsRat:
Harry Monk:
RoadsRat:
Which medical conditions above would cause a driver to (presumably) swerve in and out of his lane for several miles?
Tiredness?
Possible but tiredness wouldn’t cause you to fail a roadside impairment test.
The five tests are:
The Pupil Measure Test. Examination of the driver’s eye pupil size, condition and reaction to light.
The Romberg Test. This test assesses the subject’s balance and judgement of time. The subject is asked to tilt their head back slightly, close their eyes and estimate the passage of thirty seconds.
The Walk and Turn Test. The subject must walk heel to toe along a straight line, counting their steps out loud and looking at their feet while doing so.
The One Leg Stand Test. The subject must stand on one leg while counting out loud.
The Finger to Nose Test. With the head tilted slightly backwards and eyes closed, the subject must touch the tip of their nose with the tip of their finger with the hand indicated by the officer.
You don’t fail these tests (especially pupil measurement test) due to “tiredness”.
I’m stone cold sober and just failed 2 of those test, and I’ve only done 2 of them so far
limeyphil:
It’s just annoying when people can’t win an argument, So they resort to the “what if it was your wife and kids” scenario.
It’s like when the counrty went all politically correct. “How to get off with this? I know, i’ll play the race card”.
Same tune, different lyrics.
There’s no proof he was stoned. They found some joints and some weed. It would be more worrying if he’d smoked the joints and the weed.
He could have been ill.
I’m just thankful that idiots like yourself only make up the minority of the population.
Had you bothered to read the link, you’ll have read that the police had received numerous calls about the manner that the truck was being driven. Once stopped, the driver failed a roadside impairment test. How does that make your theory look now?
can you explain to me why that copper isn’t getting prosecuted for doing 140mph on the A1■■? Any other member of Joe Public would have the book thrown at them but as usual it’s one rule for the boys in blue and another for the rest of us.
Does “Joe Public” have the same level of advanced driving ability?
He has been severely disciplined btw.
Best comedy I’ve read on here in a while
RoadsRat:
Harry Monk:
RoadsRat:
Which medical conditions above would cause a driver to (presumably) swerve in and out of his lane for several miles?
Tiredness?
Possible but tiredness wouldn’t cause you to fail a roadside impairment test.
The five tests are:
The Pupil Measure Test. Examination of the driver’s eye pupil size, condition and reaction to light.
The Romberg Test. This test assesses the subject’s balance and judgement of time. The subject is asked to tilt their head back slightly, close their eyes and estimate the passage of thirty seconds.
The Walk and Turn Test. The subject must walk heel to toe along a straight line, counting their steps out loud and looking at their feet while doing so.
The One Leg Stand Test. The subject must stand on one leg while counting out loud.
The Finger to Nose Test. With the head tilted slightly backwards and eyes closed, the subject must touch the tip of their nose with the tip of their finger with the hand indicated by the officer.
You don’t fail these tests (especially pupil measurement test) due to “tiredness”.
I’m stone cold sober and just failed 2 of those test, and I’ve only done 2 of them so far
that’s why they also do a blood test which you would pass.
limeyphil:
It’s just annoying when people can’t win an argument, So they resort to the “what if it was your wife and kids” scenario.
It’s like when the counrty went all politically correct. “How to get off with this? I know, i’ll play the race card”.
Same tune, different lyrics.
There’s no proof he was stoned. They found some joints and some weed. It would be more worrying if he’d smoked the joints and the weed.
He could have been ill.
I’m just thankful that idiots like yourself only make up the minority of the population.
Had you bothered to read the link, you’ll have read that the police had received numerous calls about the manner that the truck was being driven. Once stopped, the driver failed a roadside impairment test. How does that make your theory look now?
can you explain to me why that copper isn’t getting prosecuted for doing 140mph on the A1■■? Any other member of Joe Public would have the book thrown at them but as usual it’s one rule for the boys in blue and another for the rest of us.
Does “Joe Public” have the same level of advanced driving ability?
I’d argue that some do it’s just they haven’t the opportunity or need to prove this in front of an advanced/response examiner.
Thetaff2:
Diabetes would have similar effects as I seem to remember watching one of those cop reality shows in the USA that they pursued a car for several miles thinking she was ■■■■■■ and it turned out her blood sugar levels were extremely low causing her to swerve in and out of traffic.
And my bro in law is a diabetic and I’ve witnessed first hand the symptoms of having a low blood sugar count.Not whilst driving though.
I would have thought that any decent truck driver who falls ill at the wheel would pull over immediately?
Besides, if your diabetes were that severe, you probably wouldn’t be driving a truck?
Good point,but be aware that I read that there is a lot of people who don’t realise they have diabetes until they get diagnosed,my brother in law certainly didn’t.
Until he collapsed one day,considering that it’s very common in people who are overweight and you know as well as me many a truck driver has relaxed muscles so to speak.
I get your point. But, again if you felt unwell while driving, you’d stop immediately and not carry on driving for several miles?
Yes I would but many won’t as they “have” to get to their delivery point at the time they are suppose to be there,especially if they have come from a far and distant land to get here and their reload is already booked for a certain time.
I have a friend who’s from Eastern Europe and he has told me some of the bosses over there are very ruthless and couldn’t give a toss about the drivers welfare as long as the load gets tipped,facing the sack when getting back home for being ill and not completing what you set out to do is common,apparently.
waynedl:
I’m stone cold sober and just failed 2 of those test, and I’ve only done 2 of them so far
The problem with these tests is that they are subjective and not scientific compared with breathalysers, but they are successful in identifying those who have been taking drugs.
RoadsRat:
Possible but tiredness wouldn’t cause you to fail a roadside impairment test.
The five tests are:
The Pupil Measure Test. Examination of the driver’s eye pupil size, condition and reaction to light.
The Romberg Test. This test assesses the subject’s balance and judgement of time. The subject is asked to tilt their head back slightly, close their eyes and estimate the passage of thirty seconds.
The Walk and Turn Test. The subject must walk heel to toe along a straight line, counting their steps out loud and looking at their feet while doing so.
The One Leg Stand Test. The subject must stand on one leg while counting out loud.
The Finger to Nose Test. With the head tilted slightly backwards and eyes closed, the subject must touch the tip of their nose with the tip of their finger with the hand indicated by the officer.
You don’t fail these tests (especially pupil measurement test) due to “tiredness”.
And you do all of these tests on the hard shoulder of the M25 while traffic is passing at 70 mph?
How long do they take to do? Ten or fifteen minutes?
Do you not consider that this might be dangerous? Or are you so “highly trained” that you can stop a truck on the hard shoulder of a motorway in such a way that there is no possibility of a passing vehicle colliding with it?
I don’t know, I wasn’t there? Perhaps they were stood behind a barrier? Perhaps they took the truck and/or driver off at the nearest exit? It’s no more dangerous than a stoned truck driver?
It’s trucks that have the incredible ability of striking stationary objects on the H/S time and time again.
limeyphil:
It’s just annoying when people can’t win an argument, So they resort to the “what if it was your wife and kids” scenario.
It’s like when the counrty went all politically correct. “How to get off with this? I know, i’ll play the race card”.
Same tune, different lyrics.
There’s no proof he was stoned. They found some joints and some weed. It would be more worrying if he’d smoked the joints and the weed.
He could have been ill.
I’m just thankful that idiots like yourself only make up the minority of the population.
Had you bothered to read the link, you’ll have read that the police had received numerous calls about the manner that the truck was being driven. Once stopped, the driver failed a roadside impairment test. How does that make your theory look now?
can you explain to me why that copper isn’t getting prosecuted for doing 140mph on the A1■■? Any other member of Joe Public would have the book thrown at them but as usual it’s one rule for the boys in blue and another for the rest of us.
Does “Joe Public” have the same level of advanced driving ability?
I’d argue that some do it’s just they haven’t the opportunity or need to prove this in front of an advanced/response examiner.
I stopped smoking (everything) just over a year ago. The pupil test you would fail no questions but that had to be either, really strong weed or s/he had been blazing nonstop from the start of their haul to be that messed up they failed the rest of the tests. Just an observation.
RoadsRat:
It’s trucks that have the incredible ability of striking stationary objects on the H/S time and time again.
So why do police officers still routinely stop vehicles on the hard shoulder if they are fully aware that this happens?
It’s the most appropriate option available.
Shouldn’t the question be why are professional drivers unable to drive in a straight line?
How you have put that question could be misinterpreted that you are saying that truck drivers as a whole can’t drive in a straight line. Which of course is nonsense.
RoadsRat:
It’s trucks that have the incredible ability of striking stationary objects on the H/S time and time again.
So why do police officers still routinely stop vehicles on the hard shoulder if they are fully aware that this happens?
It’s the most appropriate option available.
Shouldn’t the question be why are professional drivers unable to drive in a straight line?
How you have put that question could be misinterpreted that you are saying that truck drivers as a whole can’t drive in a straight line. Which of course is nonsense.
Yes, you’re right (laziness on my part).
I should have added, why are some professional drivers…
Phil’s a good lad! 
for a city fan! 