For daily rest some drivers may have to commute to and from the truck each day,which eats in to your daily rest time,for a shower,having a meal,or whatever,driving the car an hour or more each way.
As it says the lorry gets a rest,for trampers and european it is better to be in the cab all week or for more weeks,wake up,do the checks,fire her up,off you go,commute from the bunk to the steering wheel.
By the time you have got home,you may have had only a few hours sleep while cab hopping.
Just like everything else in transport, as long as you are seen to be doing the right thing reality does not matter, the 48 hr wk, wtd and poa is another classic example.
toby1234abc:
For daily rest some drivers may have to commute to and from the truck each day,which eats in to your daily rest time,for a shower,having a meal,or whatever,driving the car an hour or more each way.
As it says the lorry gets a rest,for trampers and european it is better to be in the cab all week or for more weeks,wake up,do the checks,fire her up,off you go,commute from the bunk to the steering wheel.
By the time you have got home,you may have had only a few hours sleep while cab hopping.
We worked that out a bit back!
There was a ferry captain that lived in Scotland and commute to his ship,all legal,the same for an airline pilot that may live hours away from his work place.
His ship was in Southampton.
I keep reading story’s like this on here and without fail it boils my ■■■■ and have the irresistible urge to ask the same question. I know I’ll get the same tired replies like “Well if you don’t like it…find another job” or “If we don’t do it some-one else will as there are plenty out there waiting to take your place” ■■■■ like that. But I’ll ask again so don’t bother.
WHY do you put up with it?
And NO before the snipers reply…as there are 1000’s of truckers out there with voices…you DON’T have to. ffs.
If the night driver has the motor for the night,and there is only a trailer to sleep in,would you sleep in the trailer,rather than drive the car back and forth.
toby1234abc:
If the night driver has the motor for the night,and there is only a trailer to sleep in,would you sleep in the trailer,rather than drive the car back and forth.
What are you complaining for then?
Who said i was moaning,i aint.
Errrr! check your original post. Not complaining? 
i dont get what you are getting at?
Sorry. thought you were complaining the truck gets 9-11 hrs off… and you don’t. 
Solly:
Sorry. thought you were complaining the truck gets 9-11 hrs off… and you don’t.
He wasn’t moaning, he said some drivers, it was an observation on his part
If you exceed 13hrs duty time, you’re having a reduced rest.
BUT, if I do 15hrs, and then they ask me to come back in 9hrs, they get told I’ll see them in 11 or not at all.
I gave up nights because I was having ‘long blinks’ at the wheel around 3am, so I’m not willing to kill myself on nights at the wheel, why would I do it on days by destroying my health?
Even tramping, sometimes I have more than 9hrs off. Like last night, parked up around 2.30pm, didn’t kick off again till 6.30 am
toby1234abc:
There was a ferry captain that lived in Scotland and commute to his ship,all legal,the same for an airline pilot that may live hours away from his work place.
His ship was in Southampton.
Ferry Captains usually do week on and a week off and all they do is take the ship off the berth and then the chief officer and 2nd mate do the rest until the next port approach, hardly doing brain surgery after a few hours on a train or an hour or so on a plane is he?
No-one is forced to take a job outside a reasonable distance to travel.
waynedl:
If you exceed 13hrs duty time, you’re having a reduced rest.BUT, if I do 15hrs, and then they ask me to come back in 9hrs, they get told I’ll see them in 11 or not at all.
I gave up nights because I was having ‘long blinks’ at the wheel around 3am, so I’m not willing to kill myself on nights at the wheel, why would I do it on days by destroying my health?
Even tramping, sometimes I have more than 9hrs off. Like last night, parked up around 2.30pm, didn’t kick off again till 6.30 am
I’ve talked to a couple of drivers who are under the impression that the min 9 and 11 hours are limits, not minimum periods 
and then you get the ones in the mornings, sat ticking over, intently watching the clock, stressfully waiting for the last second to click over, if the job was that critical it aint worth doing.
this is why i think most of the regs are a load of crap.
one rule for everyone dosn’t work.
also look at the six weekly checks.
you have a tramper, same truck every day, only him that drives it. he covers about 2000 miles per week.
his truck is checked every six weeks.
then there is the double shifted truck. it’s working 24/7. covering 4000 miles per week.
this truck is also checked every six weeks.
dosn’t make much sense does it?
toby1234abc:
For daily rest some drivers may have to commute to and from the truck each day,which eats in to your daily rest time,for a shower,having a meal,or whatever,driving the car an hour or more each way.
As it says the lorry gets a rest,for trampers and european it is better to be in the cab all week or for more weeks,wake up,do the checks,fire her up,off you go,commute from the bunk to the steering wheel.
By the time you have got home,you may have had only a few hours sleep while cab hopping.
Yeah, I know. So?
Thats something i have always complained about, i started to refuse to take a 9 hr rest, and always insisted on 11, they didnt like it, but there you go, and as has been stated, a driver who travels 1hr to work and back, gets a 7 hr rest, before getting into bed, and not accounting for time getting up etc, but thats down to the bods that govern us in the eu, and down to drivers who obey.
The eu bods were thinking of counting time travelling to work as part of the working day, but that was months ago, and theyre still thinking !!
Also the transport select committee ( chaired by Lord Sainsbury ) who has a big influence on how things are done, and as we all know doesnt bother him at all, puts a penny on a tin of beans, makes up for lost revenue, and ■■■■ everyone else.
I have always advocated a 12 on 12 off system, everyone gets a fair rest, a fair working day, but could the industry sustain this, especially in the current climate.
toby1234abc:
For daily rest some drivers may have to commute to and from the truck each day,which eats in to your daily rest time,for a shower,having a meal,or whatever,driving the car an hour or more each way.
As it says the lorry gets a rest,for trampers and european it is better to be in the cab all week or for more weeks,wake up,do the checks,fire her up,off you go,commute from the bunk to the steering wheel.
By the time you have got home,you may have had only a few hours sleep while cab hopping.
Yep/Its a bit a hassl to find Work close to home,but its possible.I have just a mile to work