Trivial things that wind you up but shouldnt

robroy:

Mick Bracewell:

robroy:

Suedehead:
Drivers that acknowledge/thank me for flashing them in . . . when I haven’t.

Drivers that don’t flash you in.
Not because I need it, I don’t, but it’s because of them that drivers who do need it cut in on you now.
In the old days you were more or less guaranteed a flash, so those that were unsure, incompetent or plain dense could wait for it, now they don’t know if they’ll get a flash so just [zb] go for it regardless of how tight it is rather than just sit out a couple of yards.
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And tbf how taxing is it just to give a polite flash. :unamused:

There’s no need for any of this. It’s just drivers stuck in past when mirrors were the size of a postage stamp and weren’t heated so you couldn’t see [zb]. Flashing then was useful. It’s a waste of time now and I don’t even bother UNLESS it’s moderate to heavy rain, low sun or winter time when the roads are caked in crap and your mirrors are black in 2 seconds of joining a motorway.

What would be 100x better is instead of drivers staying on the limiter and leaving you in lane 2 for 20 miles as you creep past as 0.001mph and then “helpfully” flash you in 10 minutes later when you’ve finally made it, is for them to not bother with all the silly light shows and just knock their cruise control off for 20 seconds and then no flashing needed and everyone just gets on with their day. But that’s far too obvious and so the drama and angst over being flashed/not being flashed will continue ad infinitum.

Try reading the post again mate !. :bulb:

You say there is ‘No NEED’, I all ready said that !
To repeat myself …personally I don’t ’ need’ it, I know when and when not to pull back in safely.
My whole point was/is that where as once over you were virtually ‘guaranteed’ a flash as a guide, (before people took a similar attitude to yourself), so consequently in those days it was a once every blue moon occasion when somebody cut in on you…, rather than a once every couple of hours as it is today. :bulb: because SOME are either unsure, cavalier about it, inexperienced, naive …or just plain [zb] thick, about whether or not it is a safe distance enough to leave before pulling back in…the old flash system prevented this on the whole. :bulb:
And those are the TWO things that wind me up, pertaining to the subject of the thread…not whether or not YOU deem it necessary or not.
1…Many do not flash others in, which often causes cut ins, because they know longer know uf they are going to be flashed…so cut in too early.
2. Those who caused all that who can’t be arsed.
Does that clarify?

Yeh, ok, fair enough, In REAL terms I suppose I could not give a flying [zb] whether you or anyone else flashed me in, but if they do I can rest assured that they are comfortable with the distance I have left them before pulling in…and that is the way I see it,
ie. Being a considerate driver instead of a [zb]. :bulb:

Whether it’s got anything to do with ‘‘postage stamp mirrors/stuck in the past or silly light shows’’ or not :unamused: …, it was a self devised ‘system’ that worked for decades until some drivers decided they could not be arsed any longer for whatever reason, so then overtaking of trucks by other trucks, became a more dangerous ‘lottery’ depending on the professionalism and capability of the ‘overtaker’.

As for your last paragraph, I do agree about the limiter thing,.and as for suddenly speeding up on your inside, and leaving you hanging for no other reason than to be a complete 2hat, as the clown in the blue Scania pulling the Buffoload trailer did to the guy I was following last night, it makes me wonder how some are allowed to drive large vehicles.
But if you stay in the lane for 1 mile, without eventually just letting the [zb] go, let alone 20 miles…(yeh I know you were exaggerating) I reckon it makes you nearly as bad as the prick who would not let you back in…ie a classic childish ■■■■■■■ contest. :unamused:

:slight_smile: I think we are mostly in agreement robroy, but expressed in different ways. The only thing I’d perhaps disagree on is your opinion that the cutter-ins have come about because no-one flashes. My own opinion is that they exactly where the end of their vehicle is but are simply arrogant nobs and don’t care about your stopping distance, but that’s just my opinion and yours is just as conceivable.

Ok,.we’ll agree to agree…and disagree then eh?
:laughing:

robroy:
Ok,.we’ll agree to agree…and disagree then eh?
:laughing:

I’ll drink to that :slight_smile: . I am probably imagining it, but on my travels over the past month or so I feel that there has been an increase in truckers being more courteous than ‘normal’. Noticed quite a lot who have backed off the CC when overtaking them with a marginal speed difference and also held back after moving to lane 2 to let them join. I can’t remember the last time I got hung out to dry :open_mouth: . Admittedly I rarely go out of Lancashire so might just be something in the water here :neutral_face: .

Truck wash is broken again :imp:

The intermittent wipers on the vehicle I drive.
They have a mind of their own, much like the gearbox :imp:
Main dealer after service
You probably don’t need telling I drive a Merc :blush:
Need I go on ? :slight_smile:

Evolved:
Truck wash is broken again :imp:

Truck wash?! Luxury! We still have to do ours by hand after the power washer got nicked 2 years ago by the people who like dawgs and they still haven’t replaced it. :imp:

The under dash shelf on my 106 DAF.
Because it is mounted off the floor you cant put any tall objects in it nor under it. Because of its “elegant artistic curves” it is just too small to take an A4 size map or folder.
Next to bloody useless, and prevents something better being stuck on the floor in its place.
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How many trucks today have enough 12v and USB points?
Does anyone agree there should be some on dash top? to save cables dangling over the edge? or am I the only scruffy one?

Franglais:
The under dash shelf on my 106 DAF.
Because it is mounted off the floor you cant put any tall objects in it nor under it. Because of its “elegant artistic curves” it is just too small to take an A4 size map or folder.
Next to bloody useless, and prevents something better being stuck on the floor in its place.
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How many trucks today have enough 12v and USB points?
Does anyone agree there should be some on dash top? to save cables dangling over the edge? or am I the only scruffy one?

You carry a map :open_mouth: You might have to explain to certain elements on here what one of them is :laughing:

Franglais:
The under dash shelf on my 106 DAF.
Because it is mounted off the floor you cant put any tall objects in it nor under it. Because of its “elegant artistic curves” it is just too small to take an A4 size map or folder.
Next to bloody useless, and prevents something better being stuck on the floor in its place.
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How many trucks today have enough 12v and USB points?
Does anyone agree there should be some on dash top? to save cables dangling over the edge? or am I the only scruffy one?

Are you referring to the tray thing under the centre vents on your DAF? I found it handy as a general junk repository for pens, fuel card, receipts, boxes of trailer bulbs, tub of hand wipes etc. My folder with job paperwork used to sit in the centre cubbyhole above the windscreen. I found sitting stuff on top of the dash on the rubber mat still regularly resulted in whatever was placed there ending up in the passenger footwell fairly swiftly, but that might just be my driving :laughing: . I did used to put the fuel card and receipts on the pull-out tray which was a fatal error of judgement as I didn’t realise when you pull out the tray anything on it is sweeped off the rear edge and deposited somewhere in the bowels of the dashboard, never to be seen again :open_mouth: . I’m not really sure what its purpose is :confused: .

Mick Bracewell:
Truck wash?! Luxury! We still have to do ours by hand after the power washer got nicked 2 years ago by the people who like dawgs and they still haven’t replaced it. :imp:

Nothing better than a proper truck wash.

Great place to do paperwork

I’m usually in it 4 times a day.

Doing it by hand… actual labour… pffttt… No thanks

Suedehead:

Franglais:
The under dash shelf on my 106 DAF.
Because it is mounted off the floor you cant put any tall objects in it nor under it. Because of its “elegant artistic curves” it is just too small to take an A4 size map or folder.
Next to bloody useless, and prevents something better being stuck on the floor in its place.
.
How many trucks today have enough 12v and USB points?
Does anyone agree there should be some on dash top? to save cables dangling over the edge? or am I the only scruffy one?

You carry a map :open_mouth: You might have to explain to certain elements on here what one of them is :laughing:

Quaint, you say? :smiley:
Yes, plus I use the DAF SatNav, and Google maps and street-view.
The Michelin map is good for planning a longer cross country route IMHO. I do put those longer runs into the SatNav, but may decide against the suggested routes. Taking a route that will put me near a big city at rush hour can be avoided, and saving five minutes by spending 150euros on peage isn`t a good idea.

Mick Bracewell:

Franglais:
The under dash shelf on my 106 DAF.
Because it is mounted off the floor you cant put any tall objects in it nor under it. Because of its “elegant artistic curves” it is just too small to take an A4 size map or folder.
Next to bloody useless, and prevents something better being stuck on the floor in its place.
.
How many trucks today have enough 12v and USB points?
Does anyone agree there should be some on dash top? to save cables dangling over the edge? or am I the only scruffy one?

Are you referring to the tray thing under the centre vents on your DAF? I found it handy as a general junk repository for pens, fuel card, receipts, boxes of trailer bulbs, tub of hand wipes etc. My folder with job paperwork used to sit in the centre cubbyhole above the windscreen. I found sitting stuff on top of the dash on the rubber mat still regularly resulted in whatever was placed there ending up in the passenger footwell fairly swiftly, but that might just be my driving :laughing: . I did used to put the fuel card and receipts on the pull-out tray which was a fatal error of judgement as I didn’t realise when you pull out the tray anything on it is sweeped off the rear edge and deposited somewhere in the bowels of the dashboard, never to be seen again :open_mouth: . I’m not really sure what its purpose is :confused: .

Youre right that the soft edges around the dash top are carefully curved to launch objects off the edge into a beautiful parabolic trajectory right across the cab! Just making them square would stop this amateur ski jump copy. Does anyone from the real world ever test drive theses things? And why arent there half a dozen 12v power and USB points along the windscreen edge of that tray?

Evolved:

Mick Bracewell:
Truck wash?! Luxury! We still have to do ours by hand after the power washer got nicked 2 years ago by the people who like dawgs and they still haven’t replaced it. :imp:

Doing it by hand… actual labour… pffttt… No thanks

Oooo err

robroy:
[zb] perfectionists who tie up internals at the back of the trailer, thinking they are clever…there is no NEED for it ! :bulb: .
All it does is make the rest of us have to climb on the back to untie the [zb] things, just leave them hanging !! :imp:

Wrong!!

Try loading out of somewhere off a dock and youre not loading it. Some places go ape if the straps are in the way.

Mind some trailers the retaining straps are at the front. Even a bigger sod when some clever bar steward has rammed em all in ahead of 26 pallets so now you cant strap the load. :smiley:

Sand Fisher:

robroy:
[zb] perfectionists who tie up internals at the back of the trailer, thinking they are clever…there is no NEED for it ! :bulb: .
All it does is make the rest of us have to climb on the back to untie the [zb] things, just leave them hanging !! :imp:

Wrong!!

Try loading out of somewhere off a dock and youre not loading it. Some places go ape if the straps are in the way.

Mind some trailers the retaining straps are at the front. Even a bigger sod when some clever bar steward has rammed em all in ahead of 26 pallets so now you cant strap the load. :smiley:

‘Wrong’ eh?
Ok, so how are they ‘In the way’, when ■■■■■■■ by wrapping one of the straps around the rest, which is the method I am on about, makes no difference to the position of the straps, ■■■■■■■ or not …they are in the same place. :bulb: …at the back doors on either side

Ok, that maybe says a lot about my firm, because they are either too lazy, too mean, or too apathetic to grease the runners.
(As for some places 'going ape :unamused: ', that is up to them, not bothered as far as I’m concerned tbh.)

And your second point…, there is no accounting or cure for stupidity.

robroy:

Sand Fisher:

robroy:
[zb] perfectionists who tie up internals at the back of the trailer, thinking they are clever…there is no NEED for it ! :bulb: .
All it does is make the rest of us have to climb on the back to untie the [zb] things, just leave them hanging !! :imp:

Wrong!!

Try loading out of somewhere off a dock and youre not loading it. Some places go ape if the straps are in the way.

Mind some trailers the retaining straps are at the front. Even a bigger sod when some clever bar steward has rammed em all in ahead of 26 pallets so now you cant strap the load. :smiley:

‘Wrong’ eh?
Ok, so how are they ‘In the way’, when ■■■■■■■ by wrapping one of the straps around the rest, which is the method I am on about, makes no difference to the position of the straps, ■■■■■■■ or not …they are in the same place. :bulb: …at the back doors on either side

Ok, that maybe says a lot about my firm, because they are either too lazy, too mean, or too apathetic to grease the runners.
(As for some places 'going ape :unamused: ', that is up to them, not bothered as far as I’m concerned tbh.)

And your second point…, there is no accounting or cure for stupidity.

No it isnt so much going ape but it is a pain when they wont load the trailer though!

Greasing the runners - absolutely. Get absolutely peed off the lack of maintenance around internal straps, ungreased runners, gubbed poles, knackered roof tensioning bars.

As for my second point this occurs when you cannot get anywhere near the loading point. Oh and I forgot to add the loaders who also put the palletts so close to the edge they cover the internal D rings for the straps.

Sometimes loading outside from the side can have its benefits.

Trivial things that wind you up that shouldn’t - for rob the dog it’s me.

What about no maintenance on sliding roof trailers , you can push and pull it but it won’t budge and you bend your pole .
Remember the tilt trailers, stripping them down then rebuilding it , great fun in European summer or a freezing winter , and don’t forget the wooden side boards .

Tarmaceater:
What about no maintenance on sliding roof trailers , you can push and pull it but it won’t budge and you bend your pole .
Remember the tilt trailers, stripping them down then rebuilding it , great fun in European summer or a freezing winter , and don’t forget the wooden side boards .

All that above in the past, and stuff in the present I mentioned earlier, ie no greasing of curtain rails and internal strap tracks have totally ■■■■ ed up my upper arms. :cry:
The left arm is the worse which I put down to changing gears on old trucks in the old days, and steering koois constantly every day on my previous job.
This job has took it’s toll on me…I’m not a well man :cry: :wink: … if I was a horse I’d be out to pasture, but I’ll soldier on. :laughing: :laughing:

robroy:

Tarmaceater:
What about no maintenance on sliding roof trailers , you can push and pull it but it won’t budge and you bend your pole .
Remember the tilt trailers, stripping them down then rebuilding it , great fun in European summer or a freezing winter , and don’t forget the wooden side boards .

All that above in the past, and stuff in the present I mentioned earlier, ie no greasing of curtain rails and internal strap tracks have totally [zb] ed up my upper arms. :cry:
The left arm is the worse which I put down to changing gears on old trucks in the old days, and steering koois constantly every day on my previous job.
This job has took it’s toll on me…I’m not a well man :cry: :wink: … if I was a horse I’d be out to pasture, but I’ll soldier on. [emoji38] [emoji38]

Out to pasture?
Glue factory for you!
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Picked up a stripped down tilt loaded by someone else. Tipped near Seville. Then discovered two top rails has been left behind in the UK!